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When resuming, shouldn't it speed up gradually? Why does it have to jump from 2400 to 3500 or more all of a sudden acting like a sport car? Even the Elantra speeds up nice and gradually from 2300, 2400, 2500 etc.
To recap, this is the fourth try for the wind noise problem, the third try for the engine noise problem and the second try for the oil leak problem. Folks, I really am speechless. Either the first dealer service department has been completely unable to fix these problems so far, or my GREAT XG has decided to leave me in the lurch with continuous problems. What should I ask Hyundai to do to resolve this? I have become paranoiac. I am not superstitious but start to think that this XG has been bringing bad luck to me.
Now, I am to decide on one option. Should I go for replacement option to try a XG350 to reinstate my faith in Hyundai or should I just obliterate Hyundai name in my memory and opt for repurchase? Any advice? Someone was asking if the XG350 is better than the XG300 with some of known problems fixed several postings ago.
By the way, I considered very strongly a XG350 when I purchased a new car last March. I didn't even get so far as a test drive. The salesman brought the keys to the XG I was interested in and when I started it up, it knocked and ran rough. The salesman told me to rev it up and the roughness would go away. I commented that should not be necessary with a fuel injected vehicle. Then with the car sitting still and idling away, I went to pull the inside hood release to take a look at the engine and the hood wouldn't open, like the release wasn't attached to any mechanism that allowed the hood to pop. Right then, I told the salesman I was no longer interested and wished him the best. I walked to my car, didn't look back, got in & left. I feel I made the right decision after reading all the problems mentioned here.
Bill
Even though the purchase price of the Avalanche was 50% higher than that of the XG350L, the insurance for the Hyundai is much higher in the Comprehensive, Collision, and Property Damage categories, and a bit higher in the Bodily Injury and Medical Payments categories. The mind boggles. Either the insurance rate category for the Avalanche is unusually low, for some reason, or the rate category for the XG is unusually high.
Have other XG owners run into this phenomenon? If so, have you received a plausible explanation for it?
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PLIBASSI and Specialdoc2002: Did you ever find out where the caused the noise?
The dealer that I deal with seems to be quite helpful in getting things replace. I even got the radio replaced without much complaining, but we'll see.
My wife drives the car on a daily basis and it is rare that I get much exposure to it. But we will be taking a 750-mile trip with it over the Thanksgiving holiday, so I may have something to report when I get back.
On a recent trip I tryed the cruise control,and it worked flawlesly.Maybe Hyundai is just the
oppisit of GM,Ford and the others made in America.
Whose first cars off the line are dogs.Maybe the
Koreans take great care in the first few cars made,and then slack off.Re:insurance,mine is lower than my Camry,and my state has very high rates.
On flat, smooth section of interstate highway, in which the road was curving to the left, I noticed that the car was "shuddering." I asked my wife (who was driving) if she noticed it. "Yes." Have you noticed that before? "Yes; it does it when you are turning to the left, not when you are going straight or turning to the right."
The same phenomenon was observed three or four more times during the trip. There is no audible noise accompanying the shuddering.
Has anyone else observed this quirk?
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Because mine is and it's blowing cold air at my feet. Is it a normal behavior?
I've commented on this before, and I'd like to know more about the decision tree for the Auto Climate control. I've got an '02 XG350L and here's what it does on startup on cold mornings:
1. With temps cold, but above 39 degrees F, it blows cold air on my feet, with 3 fan blades showing.
2. With temps below 39 degrees, 1 fan blade shows, and fan speed increases as the engine warms up. This seems like the way it should work.
3. With temps around 32 degrees F, the Defrost light comes on with 1 fan blade showing. After a few minutes, the Defrost light goes out and the system works as in 2., above.
I'd like the fan to stay off until the engine develops enough heat to deliver warm air to the cabin, but in 1., above, this is not the case. Is it time for a nose-to-nose with my dealer?
I went on a 40-mile jaunt this afternoon on twisty back roads, to try to get a better feel for the problem.
I don't think that "shudders" was the best word I could have used to describe the symptom.
During left-hand turns, at highway speeds, and especially while accelerating during the turns, the car produces a continual, repetitive, rapid series of what you might call "thumps," or "pounding" or "bumps" that you can hear, and feel through your butt, but are not transmitted noticeably through the steering wheel.
I'm wondering if front wheel bearing or CV joint could be the culprit? I don't have any experience with the mechanicals of front wheel drive cars.
BTW, I don't see any uneven wear on the tires.
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I don't think this is a matter of perception. People expecting more with an expensive car. I think the XG is probably the most trouble prone of any Hyundais. I'm not sure what the age of the XG platform is, undoubtedly it was sold in Korea for some time before bringing it over.
There are no "never buy a new car" warnings with Hyundai. The new platforms seem to be better than the old in the first run of the car. Thus the Elantra seems to be doing better than the Sonata because the platform changed in '01 rather than '99. Hyundai seems to be making these kind of qualitative leaps with each re-engineering.
That being the case, it's too bad this car was introduced when it was, given Hyundai's plans for a new up-scale division. IMHO they should have waited for a new car.
To call this car a yugo, as someone did about 20 posts ago, is totally off the mark. My guess is that overall reliability is on par with most American cars, maybe better. All manufacturers create occasional lemons, but I don't think this is the rule here. I paid $23,000 in November 2000 for the base XG300. This car at under $20,000 is an absolute steal. It does have a very high level of content and fit/finish that would cost a lot more in other cars. I have a dealer who has delivered a high level of customer service, and my insurance for my XG300 is no different than it was for my old Subaru Forester. The smooth shifting (most of the time) 5 speed automatic transmission is one of the main reasons that I selected this car.
I think that expectations may be part of the issue here. I compared this vehicle against similarily priced competitors like the Maxima, Avalon, and Sabre. To expect Lexus and Infinity experiences from a car under $20,000 is just unrealistic. Overall I've been pretty pleased.
2001 Base XG300 White
32,000 miles
Alpine XM Satellite Radio system
When it comes to expectation, I agree with newxg. When I bought mine, the XG was standing out of similarily priced competitors in terms of number of features and options. Not any more, I guess. For example, the Honda Accord EX V6 has just about the same options as the XG350 with more powerful engine short of memory seat and automatic chromatic rearview mirror. The Accord has dual climate control though. MSRP is only several hundred dollars apart. In my book, Hyundai should work hard to stay competitive with the Accord. The Toyota Camry XLE V6 at just about the same price is far behind in options though. This is why I opted for repurchase plan. To add, Hyundai at least in my area has been responsive and quick so far. The first problem showed up at 2252 miles on odometer. Current odometer reading is 29,100. Good luck to every XG owners.
That's the reason why you get SUCH GREAT DEALS!
Expect the 2004 to be shown in Detroit. In Korea, this new XG is on sales since this summer.
Most of the XG-owners know that they have a great vehicle, which is still kind of the "best kept secret" in the industry. But, honestly, WE like it that way, don't we??????
Also I did notice, when I start my car in cold morning, if i turn on the AC, I do get lots noise coming out from the air conditioning compressor. (that's my guess , because when I turn the AC off, the noise goes away) once the car warms up , the noise would die down ...
Re the A/C Compressor noise, there was a recent post about this. Apparently, one dealer said that Hyundai wants the compressor to break before they replace it under warranty. I used to get a clunking noise from the compressor on startup in the summer. But it only clunked once per day, on the initial startup in the morning. Now, with 7000 miles, either it doesn't clunk or I don't hear it.
With the snow in the Northeast U.S., I've had a good time playing with the Traction Control System (TCS). In the default "On" position, the TCS light flashes when over-accelerating on snow or ice, but the car tends to go straight ahead. With the TCS switched off, the car slides sideways, following the crown of the road down into the right hand gully. How did we ever live without this stuff?
Anyone get this car for under 20K???
The dealer was offering 19,500 for a car with one hundred miles.
Anyone else see this or better???
It took one false start, but in the end the dealer did a great job of diagnosing and fixing this problem which I would guess is very unusual if not unprecedented.
It turns out that the problem was a missing part in the right front axle assembly. According to the repair order, the stub shaft is a two-piece design, and there is supposed to be a clip that holds the two pieces together, but it was missing.
I would be interested in receiving comment from a mechanic who is actually familiar with this design.
49557-39291 Clip - fr axle diff
43119-39010 Seal - oil
51720-38000 Bearing - fr wheel
[Note: Initial diagnosis was wheel bearing; they changed it out and it made no difference].
Are you familiar with the "clip"?
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The "stub" shaft is the inner shaft.
http://partscatalog.hyundaidealer.com/images/PartsGif/3x/XG0430049502.gif
(The drawing is labeled wrong; It shows RH, righthand side assembly)
http://www.hmaservice.com/xml/graphics/EI/EIB9011A.jpg
https://208.8.111.53/customer/index.jsp
So far, just love the car. Only gripes: No retained power after turning engine off and removing key. Accessory plug in armrest bin is not active when car is off so can't recharge cell phone overnight. Emergency brake is foot operated instead of hand operated.
Otherwise, a great car, especially when compared to my previous "Detroit Irons".
USD$23.5K
Would you go with this Acura, or would you buy a brand new XG350 ?
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