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advantages -------the donut is a pain due to its limitations --150 miles range at about 55 mph....
this is enough to get you to a local tire or saab dealer.
but,my experience with 3 tire damages is that the tires that come with the 9.5 either snow or regular are not easily found everywhere and you may have to wait 1 or 2 or 3 days to get the replacement.and pay a premium due to the last minute purchase.
if you are on a trip you are out of luck......
so,i decided to purchase a size that matches the snow tire size since i had the spare 16 inch wheel
and because the overall diameter of the tire matches the regular tire also i will have no problem in mixing this size with the regular tires.
the tire fits about right in the trunk where the donut used to be.---you do have to remove the spacer where the jack is and place the jack back in the space----take a look and you will figure it out.
the cover falls fine over the spare tire but there is about 1/4 of an inch or less of an overhang but i can live with it ...hardly noticiable.------worth the peace of mind on a trip.
The color your asking about is a fairly popular one for Saab called Sun Green. No color for the 9-5 beats the Steel Grey though
As far as Volvo's are concerned.. sorry bout your luck there with 2000 New Volvo SUV's ending up at the Bottom of the English Channel instead of arriving in the US. The fact that the demand for those are high, it'll be a win win situation for Volvo. After the shipping companies insurance company pays off, that's 2000 new cars sold twice for them. The demand will still be there and Volvo dealers will continue to charge preimums for them. Saab should be so lucky.
Drew
So far, I love the car. Hopefully the honeymoon won't end anytime soon.
And it wasnt Sun Green. Isnt SUn Green more of a Jade Green? Kinda a light metallic?
I'd be willing to bet that's the color you saw. There is no other color quite like it on the road.
Drew
I got a '03 9-5 Linear with every available option except the Touring Package. It was a demo car with 4,700 miles on it. They agreed to sell it to me for $30,400 (original sticker was around $37,450). Although I got them to throw in some small things like all weather floor mats, I still feel weird about getting a demo. They claim that buying a demo is an "automatic" $2,500 off sticker .. is this a good deal??? after reading some of these posts (e.g. '03 Aero for $31k) I'm beginning to feel like a sucker. Any words of wisdom?
Thanks!
(FYI: Merlot Red with Beige Interior)
Drew
Oddly enough, I'm having a difficult time choosing between this car and an '03 Accord (EX, V6, w/ Navigation). Both cars have virtually the same dimensions. The Honda has the voice activated nav, radio, & temp controls. It also has 240 hp which gives it considerably more power than the Saab. And finally, its record for reliability is way up there.
On the other hand the Saab is more luxurious, and with the exception of the missing side curtain airbags is a very safe car. It also has that intangible attractiveness to it.
I need to decide today and I'm still going back and forth.
You can argue which method of side bags is best I suppose. As far as rear side air bags, I don't want them. They say those are not a good idea if you have small kids, which we do.
The features in the Newest Honda are cool I have to admit. Not to mention 240hp and all for less money. The Saab will be more fun to drive but if that's not important, you have a tough choice.
Good Luck
Drew
with only 2 miles or so ,i have done full throttle accelerations,etc.... and demos usually are not broken in by the book.......so,i would not do it.............but maybe yours was well taken care of and only old ladies took them out for demo rides..........
As far as Rear Bags, I don't know if the plans is to add them or not. I didn't want them on ours since we have Small Children. They are not highly recommended with small kids.
good luck
Drew
I suspect that a seat mounted approach is technically less complicated and less expensive as well. I'd be careful to read into that meaning they are less effective though. I recently read an article about the position of a seat mounted approach being preferred due to more protection to the neck/ Thorax areas. I couldn't tell you where I read that though.
I've never heard any debates or strong opinions suggesting which type of air bag is superior. I suspect they are both good. The only opinions on side air bags I've read refers to the belief that Rear Side Bags are not a good idea with small children in the out board seats since kids tend to rest against the doors. That combination could have horrible consequenses.
Drew
I drove an '03 9-5 Linear and came away very impressed. (especially in comparison to 9-3) Anyway, I am considering buying used but wonder what significant changes there have been since the 2000 and '01 models. The sportronic transmission with the paddle shifter seems to be new to the '03s but I'm sure there are other changes.
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~randmwilliams/
If you want to replace the unit, check ebay for a used one. If you want a new unit, the following sites offer Saab parts at discounts of 20% or more:
eeuroparts.com
saabcenter.com
I have ordered from both of these dealers and would recommend them to anyone.
Just wondering if 20000 for a 2000 Saab 95 V6 SE approx. 25500 miles in Boston area is a good deal ? I loved the test drive. Thanks.
If your are in Child Seats now, that sounds fine but keep in mind that it won't be long before they are using either no booster or one where they will still be wanting to rest and sleep agains the door panels.
I'm only describing thoughts I've heard and sometimes read about but you should research the issue yourself if you have a concern. I honestly do not know of any report or study that you should look for but it seems to me you should be able to find something to help you decide.
Good Luck
Drew
If I were you, I would check with the dealer to make sure they will not go ahead and warranty it. They are well aware that these were a problem early on. If not a full replacement, perhapse they will at least discount. I'm not sure I'd want a repalcement from a donor car since it's possible it'd come from an older car that didn't get an improved replacement SID.
Good Luck
Drew
Thanks
Peter
Good Luck
Drew
I am looking for a cash deal. Does anyone have an opinion as to what would be a reasonable offer to make for a new 2002, net of all incentives and promotions and considering the fact that the car is a year old? How much of a price reduction is it realistic to expect over the price of a new 2003?
The cars I saw did not have window stickers, so I don't know for sure what the MSRP was - I assume it was similar to the MSRP on a 2003. Were there any significant changes made from 2002 to 2003?
Thanks.
No window sticker on the '02s could possibly mean they were demos or service loaners. I'd treat them as used cars even if they're still on MSO (never been titled).
It had 550 miles - was told those were test driven miles and that occasionally the managers would drive the cars.
I've been pleased.
Apparently, Saab does not realize that they took my 9-5 back two months ago and sent me a recall notice on the 9-5.
If I have this right, Saab is claiming that the nuts and bolts that hold the tires on the 9-5 can "rust through" and break if certain types of wheels (made of certain types of materials) are used on the car. Rust through? Are they serious? I guess so if they sent a recall notice out. I am not sure whether to applaud them for their safety concerns or to wonder about the quality controls on the materials that went into the production process. I just skimmed the recall notice. Maybe a better explanation is in order.
Second, If you take a minute to read the Recall you'd learn that the Wheel Rust issue is ONLY for owners who use the Practice of Mounting Steel Wheels during the winter months with snow tires. (not necessarily a Saab Wheel) There is NO issue with the Saab Factory Wheels at all.
It's likely something to do with the different metal types contacting each other. Your implication of Poor Quality Control was unfair.
Read the facts before making an implication. Most of these situations involve owners purchasing a Wheel/ Tire combo for the winter from a source like TireRack.. You should applaud Saab for taking the Time and Expense to educate their owners. Saab may not have even had an obligation to send this information out. I wonder if Mercedes has done this. It's a common practice for Mercedes owners in the Snow Belt too.
Drew
I wish I could stay with you, dski, in the Saab discussion to continue to watch you monitor the comments of all saab owners, but as I stated, I moved on to my MB, and with that I must leave you to your self-appointed position as guardian of all comments on this board.
Peace to all.
It's not hard at all IMO. Read the notice. The issue is with the Steel Wheels. The steel wheels for winter use are typically Cheap ones used to save the wear on your Good ones. The issue is likely more about the wheels than the Saab Hubs or wheel studs. The cheap wheels probably start rusting transferring the corrosion.
There may still be a dissimilar metal issue if the corrossion is starting on the aftermarket Wheel but it doesn't matter. I'm just saying I don't think it fair to blame Saab on this one.
Drew
If you run into Zeuslewis in one of the forums, ask him about all the lemon law cases involving Mercedes and the C-class. Lemon law claims are thru the roof with that car. And MB isn't too cooperative with consumers when it comes time to settle; ya almost always gotta take them to court.
Saab's are rarely involved in lemon law claims and Saab USA has a rep of bending over backwards to settle claims and satisfy customers.
The C-class may very well be the worst car in its class when considering the above issues.
Good Luck
Drew
One issue I did have that ticked me off a little was an unusual wear on the rear Rotors. They had to be replaced. It was pricey and in retrospect, I should have complained loudly about it. If it happens on our new one, you can bet I will.
Good Luck
Drew
Thanks,
Peter
Anyone else have any brake issues with so few miles?
I'm not sure about the Sport Exhaust your referring to. I considered one on our first Saab but never did it. I would suggest that you drive the car for awhile before spending the money. You may find that you like everything just the way it is. The option would always be there later.
One thing to keep an eye out for is a Performance Upgrade that Saab is offering to owners in Europe. It's more significant than just an exhaust upgrade. It includes a Performance Chip endorsed by the factory. To my knowledge, it's not available in the U.S. yet but they are considering it. It would be available throught the dealer which is a huge benefit for warranty purposes.
Best of luck.
Drew
Drew
Check out the recent CR 'car issue' where the Saab 9-5 is rated as the most reliable of popular euro sedans.