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He is asking 29,000...what do you think board? With 4500 cash incentive on the new ones (which I could option the way I want) I would think he would need to come down much more than that.
IMHO, I've never seen "left over" or "demo" type pricing that would make sense to an Edmunds devotee whose beginning offer should always be at dealer invoice. I think that typically the end of year leftover sales are a suckers game if one is a well prepared buyer.
I think 29K is just a bit too much for a 2003 new Linear. I just bought a well optioned 2004 Aero for $34.5K (List - $7500). At $27K the Linear might be okay, though. That's about the price of an Acura TSX. The Linear is surely nicer.
I passed up a 2003 M/T Linear with 46K miles for $24K. I would have bought it at $22k, I think. Never got to make the offer, though.
Nice Car - Booring!! ;-)
Too bad about your old Saab. I read that the ones prior to 2001 can be a problem. 2003+ are better I hope, so far so good, no problems.
When I see you on the highway I will try not to blow by you too fast. ;-0
By the way why do most Saab owners usually talk about how fast the car can go to the virtual exclusion of anything else. I could offer some reasons and opinions but I would like to hear what others have to say about this.
Thanks again for you best wishes.
I am new to the Saab following so I can't speak for the past. I am a big fan of our 2003 Aero Wagon. We bought it over an Audi Allroad even with the Audi AWD advantage. The Audi has a wonderful interior and great exterior styling, the inside is a class to itself. This made it a tough choice, but the reliability issues loomed large for us. Comparing the Saab to the BMW 3 series & 5 Series wagons and MB C-Class wagons, it's just a better value period. IMHO the handling & interior on those two makes don't justify the significant price hike.
We bought the Saab for lot's of great reasons: it's features/size/value; it's styling inside and out; it's comfortable seats; it's reputation for safety; it's improving reliability per Consumer Reports; it's strong drivetrain;, it's improved driving dynamics per mag reviews and personal drives, and the bonus was it's good gas mileage. Plus it's just plain fast. ;-)
Without more specifics, I don't think that a few "thousands" of dollars of repairs would be out of line on a high mileage import. (Brakes, tires, shocks/struts, some a. c. work, an alternator, starter, a couple of batteries, and maybe $1000 in miscellaneous would be par for 100K.) Should you disagree, I encourage you to cruise over to the Mercedes E Class Board and see what a luxury import costs.
Can someone validate this for me? Must I have the rotors replaced along with the brakes?
Help!
But if you are doing it might as well add Goodridge steel braided brake lines, for firmer feel.
Good luck.
Is yours a 2003 or 2004 Aero? Talk to the dealer but also send a note to Saab thru their website. Saab can't afford a reputation for quality problems, particularly on their flagship. They were already fighting a bad quality rep form the cars in the 80's and early 90's. Did the physical lock mechanism work, pulling up on the lock button?.
Good luck.
try to make sure your car is really clean when you bring it in. it's probably not a cut and dry situation, so it may help if your car looks good.
good luck.
I'm not a throttle-and-brake driver. First time I've had this happen with any make of car.
Don't buy Saabs--lease them!!! Even then you may get stuck with a repair bill. Aarrgh. Don't get me started about the headlamps. They blow every 15K like clockwork...
i was told by my dealer in conn. a reputable and honest place where i know the owner,at 48,000 miles that my car was perfect .no need to do anything.
at 53,000 miles---when the warranty ran out ,guess what the same dealer told me that i needed
a new exhaust
new cowl
and that i had an oil leak.needed a new head gasket.
when i told thme that i did not see any leaks they said that they are experts and that only they could see it brcause of the place where it was.
i have all of this in writing.
to make the story short,they were out to make money.
now 75,000 miles and all ok.
same applies to brakes and rotors.
and the same has happened at mercedes,bmw,and others.........
in one delaership in vermont i was given the 60,000 mile service for 399 versus 699 elsewhere,but guess what,they did not do the full service.under threat of legal action and taking them to the attny.gen. office they complied and did the entire service 3 days later.
now they have posted the correct price.but who knows.
if they can take you they will.
so the old saying --caveat -emptor---or buyer beware.........
Two things strike me about this announcement. SAAB's Atlanta location always puzzled me because it was not close to their major customer bases (the Northeast, for one), major media markets, good ocean shipping, etc. What does Atlanta have to offer an imported car headquarters except cheap real estate? Secondly, neither the Atlanta location and certainly not the new Detroit location exposes them to the hip automotive influences that seemingly incubate on the left coast. This move only makes sense if the real plan is to lay off half of the 80 people, have other GM people handle their duties like PR , warranty, etc. and shove the remainging 40 people into some unused basement down on Third Ave near Selden.
You didn't buy your 9-5 for its bulletproof reliability. Enjoy your 9-5 for what it is, a fun and exciting car with occasional lapses, and exploit the hell out of the warranty Saab provides. While you're sitting in the dealership's service waiting room thumbing thru the new car ads, ask yourself: do you really want to drive some other company's cookie-cutter sedan?
Hang in there. I've been where you are, and I assure you it gets better.
Still a delight and would buy another
The large "Ecopower" plate IS the DI cassette. When it's pulled out the 4 ignition coils hang down from the plate. Check your trunk for a vinyl tool kit pouch and there should be a Torx in there. Remove the 4 torx screws from the top of the DI. There's a maroon-colored plug at the driver side of the DI that has a sliding lock clip. Move the clip towards the rear of the car to unlock, then pull the plug to the right to remove. Grap the 'handles' on either ends of the DI plate and the whole thing will pop right out to reveal the plugs. After you've done it once, it's about a 1-minute operation later.
Mileage: 75 K
Problems: None until 2003.
Then it became a nightmare. I have a catastrophic failure of A/C Compressor and Clutch. Shortly before then I bought an Extended Warranty for 100K at Nationwide Warranty. WARNING: Don't BUY IT! The warranty is administered by MBA DIRECT out of Scotsdale, AZ and they don't give a damn about your car. All they want is to have your money.
Bottom line- they installed an after-market compressor that broke this year again! In addition I have a problem with brakes' hydrolics and a small transmission leak.
But....I do not intend to give up on my car (for now:-)) because I love it. Driving and handling characteristics are superb. And it's a true SAAB machine, built in Sweden and not somewhere in Michigan
My '01 9-5 lease ends in a few weeks. When I called Saab a month ago to ask if they would be willing to reduce the buy-out price at lease end, I was told absolutely not. They said they didn't negotiate, but if I didn't buy at lease-end Saab would offer my car to the local dealer. Saab implied I may be able to get a better price through the dealer.
I decided to call Saab Finance a couple days ago just for grins, and they dropped the price by $800.
Can anyone share their experience? I'm still debating whether to buy the car or get something else.
Thanks.
I have owned 4 SAABs; all have been solid and safe, quick and balanced, fun and reliable. My experience with the local dealer has been unsettling. The factory-trained tech seems to only want to R&R (remove and replace) malfunctioning components. In my Wisconsin city, there is a local devotee of SAABs whose mission in life is to sell & service used SAABs (only). I buy from him and have all non-warranty service done at his shop. I own a Volvo, too. A similar "Import Car Repair" servicer for that car is a good find whenever you purchase a hard or expen$ive to repair import. One such servicer exist in this area, too. I have told my children to find the servicer that satisfies them before they purchase a used import. I think that is a good policy for everyone.
I have had two accidents in my SAABs and will never buy another vehicle. One was an "off-road" experience when I fell asleep and the other was a van that t-boned me at 35 mph (I called 911, opened the door, and climbed out of the ditch). Both verified the sturdiness of SAABs and the degree the designers went to develop safety systems that work perfectly. I am still driving the "off road" vehicle that was repaired perfectly and drives as new.
It does snow quite a bit here. Since I moved up here, I've purchased only front-wheel drive vehicles (except for a disastrous 1980 LeBaron that my dad from Cincinnati sold to me at a very low price). In this climate, all four wheels need snow tires and I have had four per vehicle since around 1986. All-season does not cut it here. In March, when it warmed, melted, froze, then snowed about 6-8 inches, I was the only vehicle on the road making any headway. The TCS is a great feature unless you are in a hurry.
I have read that the 9-3, up until its current iteration, was not a very safe car, being based upon an Opel design; it crash-tested poorly. This fact was not well-publicized by GM. In snowy weather, the 9-5 is the big dog on the road, with a set of Gislaveds or Arctic Alpins as your contact patch. I've purchased from my local SAAB devotee and from the Tire Rack with no problems whatsoever. Our Volvo is a turbo, too; it has an automatic, though. I don't feel as in control in the snow in it. My 9-5 is an Aero with a 5-speed. IJDGNB.