BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

blaketag · July 2001

I think this question got lost in my earlier post. Can someone please confirm for me the retail price of the E46 alarm system? Circle BMW has it listed at $300. My dealer wants $525, plus labor!

Thanks!

Tom

lrawles2 · July 2001

Has anybody added after market strut braces to their '01 330 ci to help minimize roll? I am thinking of adding them to my 330cic --

Any thoughts on:
-- cost and dealers (Los Angeles)?
-- do they work? Are they worth the cost?
-- any possible effect to warranty on car?

Any thoughts would be appreciated -- thanks in advance!

denright · July 2001

I wrote a rather long-winded, self-righteous reponse to your post above, but I thought better of it. Your point is valid, though it has its limits. Suffice to say that I dislike cops based on extensive experience, whereas most people bash lawyers based on nothing but propaganda fed to them by the GOP and the Chamber of Commerce.

As you point out, generalizations are dangerous things, and those making indiscriminate use of them run the risk of betraying themselves as intemperate fools. I would hate to allow myself to be seen as such.

3 (or maybe 4) days until delivery of my 330xi! Woohoo!

roc50mg · July 2001

did you track down your car? I spoke w/BMWNA this afternoon and they told me my car arrived in Newark, but wasn't processed at the VPC yet. The told me though that the car is scheduled to arrive at my dealership tomorrow. Neither my dealer nor BMWNA was too clear about exactly when I would be able to take delivery of the car. They said they would have a better idea tomorrow. I'm still hoping for a Friday delivery.

deepdarkblue · July 2001

Well, the BMW mats definitely look better and feel a bit thicker. I have them for my 325Ci, ordered through Pacific BMW (pacificbmw.com). They have the prong holders, which tend to break (as opposed to the velcro holders). I just didn't use the prongs at all. The weathertechs will hold more water, etc, but they don't look as clean (too many ridges). I bought some for my parents' Town Car, and they love 'em. Keeps the car clean. Depends on what's more important--aesthetics or function. I think the BMW mats will work just fine, but if you live in places where you get a lot of snow, go with the weathertechs.

tenet1 · July 2001

I got nailed for doing 86 in 55mph zone right at the 895 & 95 split while heading to DC. That one was my stupidity!!!!

But MD cops are tough, They never take a break.

stevenf7 · July 2001

I'm planning on ordering a 2002 325 or 330 convertible. I plan on ordering the removable hardtop for the rainy winter in San Fran. Bay Area. I had placed an order for a 2001. The broker then informed me that BMW has placed hold on the outsourced removable hardtops as BMW has been experiencing problems with them. Can anyone tell me the nature of those problems? Any estimated fix date?

When I spoke with the dealer (Concord BOW) he informed me that I could order now and that it would have a code number that would designate it as a 2002. I'm not sure what he meant by that. Am I correct in thinking that a new configuration ordered today would be manufactured in September and would be a 2002?

So far I have been happy dealing with the people in Concord. I was quoted MSRP on a 2001. Plus, they were willing to talk about the cost of accessories. Which is more than I can say for Weatherford in Berkeley. However, I'm located closer to Weatherford. Anyone have good or bad experiences with Weatherford/particular people there? Thanks.

Steven F.

tenet1 · July 2001

I got nailed for doing 86 in 55mph zone right at the 895 & 95 split while heading to DC. That one was my stupidity!!!!

But MD cops are tough, They never take a break.

deepdarkblue · July 2001

Well, here are more miscellaneous ramblings. Hopefully, this'll entertain some of you and keep those who are waiting in anticipation of the joy to come.

The car now has 1200 miles on it. I'm driving way too much, but I can't help myself. It feels like the engine is really broken in now. The growl seems more pronounced, even at lower RPMs. In second gear from 40-60 mph, the inline six just sings. Braveheart will attest that the sound is, in a word, intoxicating. I love my HK system, but I'm not maximizing it's use. Blame those blasted engineers for making a car sound so sweet. I know there are cars with bigger engines (Maxima, Mustang Cobra, Camaro SS, etc.), but my 325Ci's growl is music to my ears. Refined AND powerful.
Just today, I opened it up, downshifted to second and just bolted past a Mercedes CL320. No contest. He tried to keep up, but no cigar. Sniff.

The sport seats have been very comfortable. In the twisties, they really do keep your kiester in place and allow you to focus on hitting the apex and accelerating out rather than worrying about how far your rump is sliding. The Contisports have adhered to the road like glue. I can't imagine having 245s.

I let the president of the company I work for drive it today. He has a 740il, which he drives like a bat out of hell. He took it easy on Lena out of respect for her newness. He absolutely loved the black leather on high gloss black interior, saying it looked very sporty. He also said the car just felt "tight." This, coming from a man who has owned a Porsche 928 S4, a V12 Jaguar XJS, and a Corvette.

I've decided to leave the amber lights the way they are. Though I think the clears look pretty crisp, I just can't get myself to mess with the aesthetics. And though I am Asian, I'd have to say that clears, IMHO, look a bit "ricey." Once my tinting is done, I'm gonna leave well enough alone. I also can't get myself to plunk down $1K+ for the DINAN upgrades. Somehow 11 more horses just doesn't seem worth it. Maybe I'll shoot for the ESS Tuning 296 hp supercharger once my warranty expires.

Annoyances:
- Brake dust (or car dandruff, as I like to call it) has been driving me nuts. Kleen wheels, here I come! Drawback: won't be able to see my beefy brakes anymore.
- Screens on the stereo/climate control are hard to keep clean. They streak easily and gather dust like Clinton gathers scandal.
- High gloss black is hard to keep shiny, esp. on door handles.

These are all minor issues, which don't come close to offsetting the myriad of aural, visual and tactile pleasures Lena has brought me (okay, Pat, you may have to censor me here). For those of you still waiting, once again I say, "IT IS MORE THAN WORTH IT!!"

bavarian · July 2001

I have been driving for 25 years in the U.K and the U.S.A and have never owned a radar detector.
To date I have only been ticketed once-155mph in a 25 zone, trying to keep up with M3Frank..er, no-that was in a dream I just had. It was doing 37 in a 25mph side street in Edison NJ...cop came up from a manhole cover with a radar gun. Before court, the Prosecutor advised me to plead guilty to "double parking" so I wouldn't get points on my lisence. $100 fine for peace of mind, but I was left with an irrational fear of manhole covers, which I am still being treated for.
Brave, I read your list of speeding tips with relish (and a little mustard, hold the ketchup) and ticked them off one by one. Common sense really. As Brave knows from private correspondance, I travel the Chicago skyway ( a two lane racetrack, much of it elevated) and I94 through Indiana to Michigan twice a week. There are some deliciously smooth sections of straight roads where one can cruise at 100mph (limit is 65 at this point) One can see ahead for almost two miles. The cars in the other two lanes are typically going 80 here and in the main move over to let me pass-everyone seems to be paying attention and there is much less lane changing than one sees in city traffic ( I live in Chicago)
At this speed I don't engage or encourage conversation nor would I dream of taking or making a cell phone call. My car is built for sustained high speed and has brakes engineered to function at speed. So-I am all for NO SPEED LIMIT on well paved highways with few interchanges or merging points.
I have had the very great pleasure of driving on the German autobahn (A3) (driving Mercedes and BMW sedans)and was impressed by the attentiveness and control of drivers piloting low flying Audis, Porches,BMWs, Mercs, Opels etc on two lane roads.
I don't feel that SPEED per se, is the cause of accidents on the highway-more the lack of focus from drivers.
In Indiana the police use unmarked Camaros in festive colors and a brown Crown Victoria, supplemented by cars with State Police written on the side. How folks get caught by the latter baffles me...rear view mirror, anyone? Well it's hard to look in the rear view mirror if you are talking on the cell phone, trying to lift a 64 oz soda, eat a burger and fries,change a diaper, pet a dog the size of a small horsie, shave, read a paper, change your socks, argue or make out with your girlfriend,iron a shirt or whatever it is people do in the back of an SUV.
Sooner or later my luck may run out-I am not a racer by any means-no Green Light Derby for me. I don't "blow the doors" off anyone, I drive to please me, to enjoy my wonderful car. I focus intensely on the drive-why else would I drive a BMW??! There are other motorists out there- I am very well aware-AWARE-that is the key word in speeding.
I have NEVER in my driving life, cut anyone off, or pulled in dangerously close in front of another car (as happened to me on my last night drive to Michigan-by two guys who were racing each other) because I am aware of my surroundings.
Of course, when I am stopped in Indiana for speeding, I will quickly slip into my "kindly old lady costume" ( a little known option from BMW)-grey wig pulled tight into a bun, frilly frock, round rim spectacles and when the officer comes to speak to me I will roll down the window and offer him some warm cookies( which I carry always), saying "Sorry Officer- I wasn't aware I was speeding-like a cookie?"

P.S. Doughnuts work equally well.

deepdarkblue · July 2001

You have got to write more. That last one was a gut-buster.

bavarian · July 2001

I have just been "interviewed" ( i.e beaten) by the Indiana Police and had my fingers processed through an old fashioned mangle-they dried my bloodstained tee shirt by the same method. My experience with the police (mainly in London where, travelling in a Irish Rock band van I was often sent outside to be the "spokesman" when stopped late at night by the C.I.D (equivalent of the FBI)-this was at a time (i.e anytime between the Roman invasion of Britain and the Knighting of Sir Elton John) when Irishmen in a vehicle was cause for alarm. Red eyed and surrounded by clouds of pungent smoke courtesy of the Bushmen of the Kalahari, I had to state my business on the Queens Highway. Satisfied with my explanations, the bobbies let me go with a warning (i.e beating)
Police officers have a very hard job-often periods of inactivity followed by the heat of the chase and a face to face encounter with someone who will lie through their teeth rather than face the consequences of their actions.
I for one, when nabbed on the highway, will take my lumps and accept my fate. I am always fully aware of the speed limit and will congratulate the officer on his catch.
I will of course point to the $100 bill that he must have dropped just outside my window....

alpine325i · July 2001

alpine325i · July 2001

You're right denright, generalizations are dangerous things. I just had a few bad experiences with the police, you know, the stop sign incident? and I got carried away with the cop bashing. I just have to learn to chill more often. :O)

eug · July 2001

Did you pickup your car yet? I though it was going to be here this weekend.

jnscheong · July 2001

I finally took delivery of my 330i (Steel Grey, black leatherette, sports package, xenon, and CD) this afternoon. The titanium headlight trim was missing (the people at Crevier are not aware of this issue). Crevier will call me later on for an appointment to put in the titanium trim. Didn't have a chance to do much driving since my son is sick however. :-(

The people at Crevier were very professional. I was able to do a test drive with my wife and brother only, before I signed anything. That was nice. The finance lady was a little cold after I turned down her extended warranty offer. :-) Overall, my experience with Crevier is very positive. You shouldn't have anything to worry about.

eug, I have been following your conversations with errickson regarding tint. I am still debating whether to do it or not. Let me know what tint you choose and where you are getting it done. In case I decide to tint my car. Thanx.

jnscheong

P.S. one thing I can say about my car is that the engine sound is GREAT!

gurumike · July 2001

It seems that, despite it being the topic of much discussion, people still seem to think that all 330 cars have the titanium headlight trim. Coupes do, convertibles do and non sport package sedans do. But if you have a more recent build sport sedan, they do not! Stop putting your cars back to the "old" look! They are NOT supposed to come with titanium headlight trim in every case. There may even be other non-titanium trim cases I'm not aware of. In any case, BMW almost never "misbuild" their cars. If your car came in sans "flashy painted headlight inserts so I can distinguish my 330 car from lesser BMWs", please don't badger the dealer into tearing your freshly built car's headlights parts in order that they change the color of the pieces underneath.

Seriously people, that's the way BMW builds them now. Just out of interest, for the people that have wanted titanium headlight trim, are you considering or have you already purchased chrome wheels and or "gold package" badging.

unboringuy · July 2001

Number two came without the titanium trim around the headlights, and since it's jet black, I think it looks perfect that way. I can't speak for number one, since I didn't have it long enough to notice.

errickson · July 2001

First day with the new tint, and man, what a relief! As you recall, did the Huper film on the rear, and V-Kool on the sides. The colors matched exactly, and since the V-Kool is metal, I didn't use it on the back due to radio reception issues. Price was $575, but I learned that window tint is one of those get-what-you-pay-for things.

Car looks great. The tint is a very neutral color, but is very effective. I actually had to turn the a/c temp UP a few degrees b/c it was getting a bit nippy inside using my pre-tint temp setting! This place also tinted the sunroof (had not thought of that).

FYI, I think the place I took mine too in Houston may be a national distributor for Huper and V-Kool or something. This lady was incredibly helpful and knowledgable, travels around to tradeshows, and knows vendors throughout the country that use these products. She may know a place out West, if you have not found one (Linda- 713-856-8333).

Oh, I asked her about the warranty, and she confidently replied..."Yes, there is a warranty, but I promise you will not need it! We have this stuff on office buildings all over the country, and have virtually no complaints. You are going to love it."

Anyway, if you have any questions, please let me know. Happy to answer them.

denright · July 2001

According to BMWNA and my dealership, my car arrived at the VPC today. I am also still hoping for a friday delivery.

eug · July 2001

errickson: Sounds like good stuff. Did they install the rear window in one pieces? Did they install the tint all the way to the edges? How dark did you go? I may do the same if I can find a installer that does both types of tint.

jnscheong: Let's see some pics! Also, I only found one dealer of Huper in Orange county. Can't think of the name right now, but they said they couldn't install the rear with one piece. The Huper dealer in San Diego won't tint the front-side windows. They both are exclusive dealers in their area. I haven't checked LA or Riverside county etc.

errickson · July 2001

you can buy the alarm from circle for $225, and install the thing yourself in 30 minutes!!!!!!!
The instructions are very straight forward, and the car is pre-wired for it.

You will have to take it to the dealer to 'activate' it, but that is no big deal. I say DIY!!

(If I can install the armrest, I am sure you can install their alarm....trust me!)

errickson · July 2001

and the guy that did the install had already left by the time I came to pick the car up. I will be able to see if they went to the edges as soon as I can roll down the windows (48 hours). I looked hard at the rear window, to see if it was 1 piece or two, and could not tell. She said if they could not do it in one, they cut at the defroster lines to make it non-detectable. I will inspect closer and let you know.

veekay1 · July 2001

Well...I guess that rare occasion found my car on the assembly line! If you scroll back a few thousand posts, I posted that my 325xi came from the factory with a single, solitary CHROME window trim (right rear window)instead of the expected shadowline/black rubber trim! Go figure!
It was very embarrasing and to think it passed QA at Regensberg, VPC at Port Jersey and at the Dealership!! (I myself noticed it the next morning).
veekay1(325xi, blk sapphire/gray)

errickson · July 2001

'And though I am Asian, I'd have to say that clears, IMHO, look a bit "ricey." '....

Just looking for your thoughts on this, not attempting to wage a battle or anything.... What is it about the clears that make you feel they look "ricey"?

I was actually thinking about doing them in an effort to DOWNPLAY the lights, and make them LESS noticeable. I had not thought about any 'rice-related implications'.

Anyone else have input on the clears? Is there something I am missing? Am I getting too old to identify trends? ....So I went to Van Halen and Foreigner concerts in High School

bingusa · July 2001

'And though I am Asian, I'd have to say that clears, IMHO, look a bit "ricey." ' --- deepdarkblue

Well, IMHO:

"Though I am Asian, I'd have to say that clears, IMHO, look a bit red-necked /WASPy as they are so popular in Europe.' --- bingusa

>>> errickson: Just looking for your thoughts on this, not attempting to wage a battle or anything.... What is it about the clears that make you feel they look "ricey"?

My guess would be because so many Asian youngsters tune up their Hondas into clears-all-over toys for years and clears-notorious Lexus's are more popular among Asians. But I still have to say it is whites on Bimmers rather than clears on Hondas/Lexus's.

IMHO - Be yourself and dare to be different OR just to be same.

boelke · July 2001

I just got mine tinted recently and they did a decent job on it. I don't have a lot of options here but Formula One did a good job on it. I live in NC and it gets really hot if you have black leather interior. It cost me about 250 for all the windows save for the windshield. I had stongard installed on it too. You can't tell that you have stongard until it becomes dirty and dust accumulates on the edges.

IMO it's worth it having your windows tinted.

ladybugnova · July 2001

I was reading with amusement/sympathy tickets in my home state when I,with alarm, read about car searches. What's up with that, letting the cops search your car without a reasonably articulable suspicion? I didn't think, after 4 years of (admittedly civil) practice, cops could just make you open up your trunk or whatever on a whim, guys. Now if they walk by your car and see a bong sticking outta yer bag, okay, then they can search. Maybe I'm wrong.

BTW, as far as tickets, what I've really noticed, as an ex-Marylander who used to get yanked all the time in VA when I had MD tags, and since I became a VA resident haven't been touched for speeding in VA, is that one of the main factors increasing ticket odds is having out-of-state tags. The reasoning is that out-of-staters won't bother to defend the ticket. Also, in Maryland, I drive frequently on 70W and 68W, and never get ticketed--cops really focus more on the 95 corridor and the beach, I think.

Later,

LDBUGnova

deepdarkblu · July 2001

Yes, I am proud of my asian heritage and a big fan of rice in many forms (just not on my car). I know that clears on BMWs are considered the European standard. I do think they look good, but due to the pervasive use of clears on Civics, Integras, Accords, and other such "[non-permissible content removed]" vehicles, I'd rather steer clear of them altogether. I was 90% sure I'd get them, but once I took delivery of my 325Ci, I just fell in love. Why change something if it looks beautiful? I think I've seen three or four Asian guys driving 3s and 5s with clears. Maybe I'm just trying to avoid the stereotypes. Of course, everyone ultimately does what they like, but I'm gonna leave well enough alone.

reubencahn · July 2001

A couple points about fighting tickets. 1) In many jurisdictions, failing to take action will result not in a not guilty plea but in a license suspension; 2) if the cop shows up on your trial day, ask to see his documents. Radar or pacing both require documentation. Radar requires certification of the operator and the radar. Pacing requires certification of the cop's speedometer. 3) If the cop is there and you don't have irrefutable evidence, consider pleading no contest. You can probably get away with court costs, no points and hopefully no driving school.

On being stopped: Never, Never, Never, Never stick your wallet, license, registration or anything else out the window as the cop is walking up. Keep your hands on the wheel and ask permission before reaching for your wallet or the registration. (Am I the only Black person on this forum?)

Last, as a criminal defense lawyer for 13 years, I might be constitutionally inclined to hate all cops, but the fact is that many of them are decent guys. I don't say all. I've dealt with many who are liars and racists but I've dealt with as many who are okay. In any case, even with the worst, a non-hostile approach will minimize problems.

driver36 · July 2001

Guys, I need some helps here, is it possible to get $1000 off fromt the MSRP in San Francisco bay area, if you factory order it? I have been shop around the South Bay area(San Jose, Fremont..etc) they won't come down on there MSRP? Once again is it possible to get any discount at all on the 325i.

thx for any reply

driver36

div2 · July 2001

Re: Clears- For me it's just an esthetic choice; amber or clear, whatever floats your boat- as long as they are BMW OEM type clear lenses. What I cannot stand are the completely clear rice-boy setups; might as well get some 19" chrome wheels and pimp it out 100%...

deepdarkblu · July 2001

I used to work for the feds, and in training we were taught to ALWAYS watch the hands. Do NOT stick your hands out, reach for the glove compartment or the back seat, or reach under the seat. Just keep your hands on the wheel and address the officer as "officer." Do this, and you might just get on his/her good side. And in no circumstances should you get angry. This will ensure a ticket.

blaketag · July 2001

I got $2K off sticker ($1900 over invoice) on my factory-ordered 2001 330i from BMW Concord. Not sure if the same deal would apply to a 2002 (I doubt it). So far, I have enjoyed dealing with BMW Concord. My salesman is Hendrik.

Tom

ladybugnova · July 2001

RC-

Cheers to another counselor. What is the constitutional ruling on drug searches--do I have the right standard of review (i.e. reasonably articulable suspicion--which has gotta amount do more than DWB, or DW95inouttastatetags)?

I agree completely on keeping hands on wheel. And the guy who jerked the window down trying to get a rise out of the young cop--man, you're lucky.

LBnova

brave1heart · July 2001

Great diversity on the board!! Helps for more balanced collective opinions that we can all benefit from.

Hands on the wheel - agreed. You guys are right. However, I remember getting out of a ticket once - sticking my license and registration slowly out the window might have helped. I'd only do that if I have them handy in my pocket.

Bavarian - you are a riot!! I bet you've heard of Eddie Izzard and find him the funniest comedian. I have three shows from him on tapes. I'm still waiting for my movie education program, BTW

)

reubencahn · July 2001

Reasonable suspicion for an investigatory detention. PC is required for a search. Can I ask the origin of your name?

silverprincess · July 2001

Could you folks or others please respond to this earlier post? Thanks!

#7241 of 7540 HELOC vs. Home Equity Loan by silverprincess Jul 11, 2001 (03:51 pm)

There has been some discussion on this board regarding the tax advantages of taking out a home equity line of credit (HELOC), if you're a homeowner, instead of a conventional auto loan. For instance, www.deepgreenbank.com has some great rates right now (as low as 6.10%). But what about a home equity loan (second mortgage)? Wouldn't this be more advantageous because although the interest rate may be a little higher than a HELOC, but you're getting a FIXED 15, 20, or 30 year rate (about 8% now) AND actually paying down the pricinpal of your home? I've read that, depending on the terms of your HELOC, you could be paying INTEREST only for the first 10 years, and then you owe the amount you borrowed at the end of the term (see http://www.fool.com/homecenter/refinance/06.htm). I recall there were a couple of posters that went with Deep Green Bank's HELOC and felt that they got a great deal...your comments please regarding this comparison? I apologize for my financing/loan ignorance, but hopefully the feedback on the pros/cons of a home equity loan (see http://www.fool.com/homecenter/refinance/07.htm) will help some members here in searching out for their best financing options.

dunde · July 2001

Its now my seat belt which is giving me a certain discomfort or do I always have a habit of finding fault in everything. But here is whats happening. If I m coming out of an alley and about to hit the main road. The moment I step on break at the intersection and try to look on both sides of the main road my seat belt holds me back. To get around it I have to lean a little backwards (which releases the tension on the Seat Belt) and then the seat belt will let me move back and forth. Are the BMW seat belts so sensitive that even light breaking holds them ? NEVER EVER had this problem in my honda which I have been driving for 3 years and I know the seat belt in my honda works becoz if I step on the break hard then it does hold me back. It appears the BMW Service people at the dealer are scared to even touch anything on this vehicle. They relate everything to "computer controlled" and thus they can not do much to it. Is anyone experiencing any seat belt problems and can something be done ?

ladybugnova · July 2001

RC-

Cheers to another counselor. What is the constitutional ruling on drug searches--do I have the right standard of review (i.e. reasonably articulable suspicion--which has gotta amount do more than DWB, or DW95inouttastatetags)?

I agree completely on keeping hands on wheel. And the guy who jerked the window down trying to get a rise out of the young cop--man, you're lucky.

LBnova

derpropman · July 2001

Could any one recommend a good dealer for service in Baltimore /DC area? I have a new car and need warranty related service. I had very bad dealings with Towson BMW sales people. I am surprised that they are still in business. I do not know much about their service department. A friend of mine was not happy. I have heard the same about Russell BMW. The Northwest BMW, I have no information. I had good dealings with Tischer sales people, but bad taste with their service department. I am not sure why BMWNA would not do something to setup a good service network. There are some good shops here that specialize in BMW, but they do not do warranty service.

ladybugnova · July 2001

Reubencahn,

Thanks for the conlaw response.

Concerning your question re name origins, It is based on a love for (but foggy memory of) the old Herby Disney movie(s) as a kid. The herbies/bugs were always the good guys, which led me to love the idea of the VW Bug as a kid, and as an adult,while VW Bugs are cute, my favorite car, aside from the 325xi we own, is our other car, the TT, which for better or worse, resembles (and is built on the same platform as) the VW, in a squashed way. Not to be overly analytical, but entomologically, Ladybugs are also positive, in a way, b/c they eat bad bugs. And we live in Nova.

Speaking of name origins, maybe you are the federal FPD in a Southern town?

LBnova

reubencahn · July 2001

Chief Assistant FPD in Miami--though not a native of the town.

dparis1 · July 2001

I have had only good things to say about the Towson dealer service.
Ask for Murry in the service department. Had a problem with my radio and they were very easy to deal with.

micga · July 2001

Does the 330i come with chrome window trim?

stgreen · July 2001

then I b e l i e v e that "titanium headlight surrounds bring a visual refinement to the front end of the 330i/xi and FURTHER DISTINGUISH IT FROM THE 352xi. (330i/xi only)." and is/are labeled as "Equipment / Exterior - Standard." on the page after upholstery colors and exterior colors in the BMW 2001 3 Series sedan 'book' that my dealer gave me.

No mention of Coupe/convertible or sportpackage is mentioned as to include or not include the titanium trim...

I'm not trying to stir up a can of worms, just refering to the bmw issued info book. Things may have changed however since the book was printed which may explain gurumikes post.

---

aaron330i · July 2001

My two week old 330i pp, sp, 5-spd came with titanium trim around the headlights and dash.

roc50mg · July 2001

Can you run a status check on my car for me? It's a jet black 5 speed, 330xi, PP, SP, CWP, CD, Xenon, going to Freeport, NY. I ordered it back on April 28. Thanks.

novcenthusiast · July 2001

Nope (you're not the only black person in here).
I was thinking the same thing reading through one of the post which said have your license and registration ready. The first thought I had was I'm not moving 'til the officer ask for them.

I don't remember who asked about Weatherford earlier, but the one time I went with a friend to test drive a '98 5 series the salesman seemed pretty cool. I don't remember his willingness to negotiate.

Don't recall anyone saying anything specific about this dealer so I'll ask again: has anyone received a good deal from Weatherford? Having to go out to Concord would be a pain.

kv007 · July 2001

people really want their titanium trim, very, very important to distinguish that 330 from a 325, i guess.

i have a 330xi sp orient blue, and like aaron's above, it has titanium trim on the dash, the headlights and it also has chrome trim around the windows (all four windows). however, i do have the aluminum trim inside, so not sure if that makes a difference.

BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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