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DON'T HIT YOUR BROWSER REFRESH with stuff in the text box....
That may be one of the most appropriate usages of "scare quotes" that I've seen in quite some time.
Mail sent. Best luck to you! Please keep me posted.
BTW, to avoid spam, don't display your e-mail in your post.
On a side note: my wife and I have been interested in a Sienna for quite a while and have narrowed our choice down to an XLE with either pkg #12 or #14 ('04 package configurations; I don't know what the '05s are yet). I was really leaning towards the #14 configuration because I like having a sunroof and wouldn't mind having a CD changer. As far as I can tell, MSRP on this van would be about $33.8k ('04 prices).
But now the new Ody is coming out and I've been looking at the EX-L. This trim line will come standard with EXACTLY what I'm looking for on a Sienna XLE w/#14 (sunroof, leather, cd changer, and all the safety goodies). But the expected MSRP on the Ody EX-L is under $30k. And the van will have more power, better mileage, and for those rare occasions when an 8th seat would be useful....a +1 mid-row seat.
I think you guys better be prepared to settle for closer to invoice than $1500 over....
Why is this? If it's a supply/demand issue, then why doesn't Toyota make more XLE's and Ltd's and less LE's? I'm so tired of Toyota salespeople opening up the pricing conversation on Ltd's with "these are hard to find"!
Back to the advertising fees, this doesn't make sense either. Why not build advertising into the price? You like to compare to other retail purchases, so I'll point out that I don't pay ad fees at other retailers!
Let us see how many siennas will be sitting in your lot after 05 ody comes out. You better sell all you can before it comes out.
You think Toyota is better than Honda? Honda salesmen think Honda is better than Toyota.
If we are talking only about the '04s, I would have to agree (although the two vehicles are both very highly, and very closely, rated by most publications). So yes, I can certainly agree that the '04 Sienna should cost more than the '04 Ody. A bit more. But with blowout sales prices, many many people felt that the '04 Ody represents a better value.
And now the '05 Ody is on it's way and though it may lag the Sienna in some areas, in other areas it is clearly ahead. Is the Sienna still a 'better' car? Perhaps yes, perhaps no. But as close as I can tell, the Sienna XLE w/#14 is more than $4k (close to $5k) more expensive than the very comparable Ody EX-L. Is it $4k better? Not is my eyes.
Unresolved mechanical problems on the Ody? I hope you aren't referring to the transmission issues because these HAVE been resolved. And from what I've read here on Edmunds, the Sienna transmissions have been behaving a bit flakey themselves.
TMV on Edmunds simply are not numbers to really expect.
I'm sure the folks here at Edmunds will be glad to hear that. Actually, I've read many, many posts, right here in this very thread, from individuals who were able to gets deals on Siennas, including XLE's and Ltds. which were better than Edmunds TMV.
Apparently not at your dealership however.
I do apprecite your guys' help
William
Therefore - posts have been deleted. Sorry for the disruption folks!
That really cleared away a lot of posts. What the heck are we supposed to talk about now?.....8^)
I don't think invoice prices are available yet on the '05 models. All of the info commercially available right now is on the '04s (although I would imagine that '05 info should be available any day now since the '05s should be hitting the lots by next week).
It might help if you included which package/options you were interested in on the LE-8. Also, are you trying to determine what the actual invoice is, or what they are typically selling for in your area?
Someone suggest me good deals please...
Need it pretty quick.
Thanks
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I am considering on getting a 2004 Sienna LE or XLE with Leather and DVD Entertainment system. Is it reasonable to expect something close to the invoice or Edmunds TMV price?
Has anybody heard of this? Do they literally just recover the seats? Any advice????
I got a quote in NJ dealer ,
Invoice is around $24,100, and he can sell me $24,600. Also I received help from toyotasalesguy , he checked his system and told me it is $23,391 for 2005 SIENNA LE 8 passenger.
Is it possible that dealers get diffenert invoice price because of area ?
Anything over TMV would be my walk away price, especially since the '05 models are on their way and the '05 new Odyssey arrives in force next week.
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MSRP is 24,880 found this on a list at siennaclub.org 2005 pricing sheet. By the way that is $250 more than the 2004 MSRP.
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Thanks for getting back to me. I guess its a good starting and ending point for my "walkaway" price.
I was looking more for a LE or XLE with a GL and C7 package. Should I expect a much smaller inventory towards the end of the year now for a 2004 Sienna?
Anyone know?
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Got your message and would love to receive any info. pertinent to purchasing in So. Cal. Unfortunately, I am not sure what you mean by "making my email public." Can you either be more specific or at least direct me to any particular dealers?
Thanks!
Posting your email in the discussion itself is a sure guarantee of spam.
Even better is sharing info for everyone to benefit from - we don't spend all this time and effort maintaining an email clearinghouse!
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Funny how that works :-)
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Help me
rear audio system, and side airbag. The price I paid is
$23,4xx+Doc+title+TAX. $23,4xx included the destination fee.
I thought it is a good deal because the 04 does not save that
much money as I expected. Your experts can comments on
the deal, and any suggestion on finacing. The dealer offer 5.5.
I paid $2000.00 deposit, and need to find a loan in five
days. Further, I wonder whether I should buy the extended
warranty with $1000. Wait for suggestions.
One thing is for sure, the 05 Sienna hit the lots few days ago.
05 Odyssey was on the lots. This is ture for Atlanta area.
My negotiation follows the experiences posted here. Great
appreciation to this forum.
Thank you.
Also, any feedback on the following:
1. Dealer wants $400 for license fee. What amount is typical after negotiation?
3. I may lease from TFSC, but would expect to negotiate the lease rate, waive acquisition fee, and obtain an early buy out option at simple interest rate. Have others had success with negotiations?
Thanks
My '04 XLE AWD stickered for $35,106-- equipped with FE, GK, V2 (glass breakage sensor), & WH (a pair of wireless headphones). Salesman gave me wheel locks for free. I paid $33,106 six months ago, so I was pleased. Your deal seems similar, considering there's been a price increase since then, and (I assume) yours lack V2 & WH. XLE AWD's aren't easy to find, and winter's coming....
i just paid $778 above invoice
for that i got the power seat and the newer model
shop around
chicagoland here