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  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    You might want to check out a site for Echo parts. It's http://copartfinder.com. (no WWW on purpose- the link doesn't work with www inserted). Good luck! :)

    Sorry to hear about your little incident Lynn. It could have been worse though. Glad you are okay.
  • lynnann1lynnann1 Member Posts: 85
    I am telling you that after I hit her and saw how her rear was mushed, I just pictured my whole front end messed up. But it's not really that bad, it's just the inconvenience it puts you in. I didn't even notice the scratches on the hood till I got home. Not to mention I was having a really good day, until then. Talk about going into a quick depression. Then I couldn't sleep that night.

    I have an appointment to take it to the appraiser next week.

    I am usually a very careful driver, but I have known so many people who have been in the same situation the person moves forward at a speed that appears they are going to merge into traffic and they stop.

    I checked out the site, but unfortunately they're all too far away make it worth my while.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    My mother has been driving for nearly 40 years, and one time she rear-ended a pickup truck who did the same thing the car you hit did. Coincidentally, that was her only at-fault accident in all that time of driving. So that proves that even the best make mistakes. :) It would have been alot worse, or the person you hit could have been nasty and took legal action.
  • willidwillid Member Posts: 1
    glad to know that you're OK from your fender bender. glad to know the echo did too! keep on smiling! like you said, its an innconvenience, but it could be much worse. hang in there!
  • jeremyl1jeremyl1 Member Posts: 8
    The Echo is an attractive package, but I lost interest when the salesman said that ABS is "not available in this region." This is to be a vehicle for my teenaged son, so I want all safety features. Anyone know how to get an Echo with ABS in Louisville, KY? How far (north, I assume) would I have to go, Cincinnati?
  • ernieechoernieecho Member Posts: 8
    Sorry about your Echo/TARDIS mishap.

    I thought the Seafoam Blue was supposed to be one of the most liked colors (although I know they didn't make many of them.) I wonder why they didn't...
  • jbear87jbear87 Member Posts: 13
    I wouldn't let the fact that it doesn't have ABS persuade you from not getting this car. Most people do not even know how to use this feature properly. The real benefit of ABS is that it allows you to steer while stopping fast. However, most people panic and don't steer out of harms way. Also, I would probably put more emphasis in the 60-0 distance and how it compares with other cars that you are considering.
  • echoluvrstecholuvrst Member Posts: 111
    I think the fault lies with Edmunds and not anything that we can do about it until they update it. At home where I have AOL, I have added Echo #7 to my favorites but here at work I have to go through a long process as I don't understand how to bookmark. Sorry.
  • echozechoz Member Posts: 15
    Thanks for your comments
    We will go for the power pack, as its nice to have the power windows. Also the velour trim is quite nice too.
    I might try to fit cruise control after we get it and run it in. I fitted it to our Corolla and it wasn't to difficult, apart from finding a place to mount the speed sensor on the transaxle.

    lynanne 1 - usually we get crappy options in Australia so it is unusual that we should be getting power windows whereas in the US you don't. We also get digital speedo and tacho in the central pod, not the analogue instruments that the US model has.
  • vadpvadp Member Posts: 1,025
    People get in trouble with ABS not because they
    panic. ABS is a very useful feature in the wet and
    slippery conditions. And even if you can't steer around, in the panic situations it WILL make your stops shorter, no matter how good your standard brakes are to begin with.
    Some of the drivers simply don't understand what
    ABS stands for. They overestimate the benefits of
    the system and start to tailgate the cars in the
    front of them and pay less attention to the road
    conditions in general, believing that no matter
    what they do, ABS will save them.
    You don't have to be ingenious to practice how to
    use it. A couple of panic stops in the control
    environment of an empty parking lot on the rainy or snowy day will give you a very good idea what the system is all about.
    Worth of every penny.
  • mong1mong1 Member Posts: 32
    What!!!??? They don't have Seafoam Blue??? I saw that in the 2001 brochure! How could that be possible... oh no.... I don't want other color, what should I do?? Man,how many people like blue, let's get a poll here!!!

    melodyecho, how's the service in Molle? They seems real friendly, not like Superior Toyota who stress you out, just want your money.
  • echoluvrstecholuvrst Member Posts: 111
    Mong,

    My belief on what colors are available is based on this site. I have not seen a 2001 brochure yet, but if it is in the brochure, they must be offering it. I asked Jay Wolfe Toyota to send me one, but they never did. I asked the internet sales manager about it in an email and she said that she was had one for me when I came in.

    My favorite color was the seafoam blue, but now my favorite is Black Sand Pearl and that is the color I am planning on getting.

    Did you tell the dealers you have been dealing with the color you wanted and that you wanted a 2001 model or did you just tell them that you wanted a seafoam blue one?
  • echoluvrstecholuvrst Member Posts: 111
    Can you adjust how often the windshield wipers work or is it a fixed interval? My '92 Escort GT were adjustable and I really loved it. My '93 Escort Wagon has fixed interval wipers and sometimes one interval is too slow while the next interval is too fast.
  • echoluvrstecholuvrst Member Posts: 111
    I had never dealt with a vehicle with ABS until my mother got her '99 GMC Yukon. My mother lives four miles outside of town so one day when coming back from the grocery store, I took the Yukon up to 55 down a paved country road and then jammed on the brakes and activated the ABS. It was a little disconcerting to feel the pulsing through the brake pedal, but I was able to stop in a nice straight line. If I had done that in a vehicle without ABS, I would have ended up in a ditch.
  • babyboomerbabyboomer Member Posts: 205
    "Multibrand sites like Edmunds's will start giving carmakers better data on what customers really want, undistorted by dealers' arm twisting and massive showroom discounts."
  • azechoazecho Member Posts: 12
    Make us the perfect car and give us a deal we can't refuse and walk away from.... instead of letting us walk away and find out there was a better one! It leaves nothing but, a bad yuck feeling knowing you donated more to their bad dealing....

    Actually, I think if Toyota perfected what they had, they would stay number one!! The only problem is when a dealer knows he is selling the better, they forget we are the buyer...

    Give the guys a deal...
  • djmick2djmick2 Member Posts: 9
    yes im still ins shopping. my car was sold but theres another one just like it waiting for me!(the price went up 250$ of coarse.)ive found bids as high as 300$ a month and as low as 100$ a month.(is there a catch?)if not ill have my echo this friday so i can hang with you fine people! wish me luck and thanks for your help.
  • wrgrahamwrgraham Member Posts: 112
    I think I have a first for this group. I was following another car today and a silver Echo pulled up behind me just as we entered a 45mph zone. The lady in the silver Echo with CA plates couldn't wait so she passed both of us and also right by a cop waiting at a stop sign. Lights and sirens and she got a ticket.
  • lynnann1lynnann1 Member Posts: 85
    for your condolences. I just hope that when I finally have to put her in the shop she's not gone too long. Sigh.
  • echoluvrstecholuvrst Member Posts: 111
    You don't have to own an Echo to hang out here. It is a free country after all. You don't even have to totally like the Echo either. Vadp is proof of that. : )
  • njechonjecho Member Posts: 5
    Hi, folks. I'm new here. Have had my Echo (manual, black sand pearl) since mid-September and am loving it. I've been reading your posts for comparison to my own experience, so here's what I've noticed.

    On certain exposed roads, especially 65 mph highways, I definitely notice being buffeted by crosswinds. Ditto for being passed by gigantic trucks that are obviously going 80 mph+... On the whole, it doesn't bother me much, but a few times I've felt compelled to slow down a bit to stabilize matters.

    But I LOVE driving this car. Can't beat the mileage, that's for sure... It's pretty darned zippy, even in mountainous areas. I've been stopped numerous times by people telling me they like my car (with one person shouting to me as I drove out of a parking lot...). And every guy who's pumped gas for me has had lots of questions.

    I noticed a couple posts referring to a recall, though, and wondered if someone could bring me up to speed here. Anything I should be worrying about? having had my last car totaled in a head-on collision in July, I'm a little paranoid when it comes to safety these days.

    Also wanted to relate my car-buying experience to you guys. Not a pleasant process!! I wasn't planning on buying a new car to begin with, and wasn't in a position to do so, being in between jobs (that is, in the midst of a major job search and doing only long-term temp work at the time). My salesman was way too high-pressure and kept trying to force me into a Corolla, when I kept telling him I wanted the most basic car I could get.

    He kept insisting that all the cars were the same price, that none of the cars on the lot had manual transmissions, and said the only way he could get me financing was to submit the application based on a Corolla. My answer was that if he called with an approval on a Corolla, I'd be saying "no, thanks." After an hour of my pleading "You mean there's not ONE Echo on your lot with a manual trans that costs less than a Corolla?!"... he finally led me (grudgingly) outside to see the one Echo they had in stock. Needless to say, it had a manual trans and cost $3,500 less than the Corolla he was trying to pawn off on me. And that, my friends, is what I drove away in the next afternoon...
  • erinjanerinjan Member Posts: 3
    Hi Everyone,

    I've had my new Echo for not quite two weeks now (still less than 150 miles on it) but so far it's been wonderful. A few comments on the car buying process, and a few questions.

    The decision to buy the Echo was brought about by unforseen circumstances -- I'd been planning on trundling along for another year or two in order to save a little longer. I'd been driving a 1986 gas guzzling tank of a lincoln towncar. So old and large was the towncar that it had a beeper for backing up, and I was frequently mistaken for a dump truck. It was dying in pieces on me -- leaky trunk, dead power windows, a radio that blew up, wiring that fused and caused the back interior lights to stay on during night driving, mold in the airconditioning system -- and then finally the steering snapped, and that was pretty much the end of that.

    I purchased a nice little 1988 Chevy Nova fairly cheap, (I knew every inch of the repair history, and wasn't worried about it at all) as a stopgap car, and was certain that it would get me through those next two years I'd been counting on. Three hours after purchase, an elderly gentleman who'd apparently never actually learned any of the traffic laws, plowed through a blinking red light and completely totalled my brand new-used car.

    I took advantage of the holiday weekend to hit every dealership I could in the local area, new and used -- looked at Mazda's, used Hondas and VWs, Toyotas, etc. Hated the Mazda dealership, way too large and impersonal, we practically had to mug a salesman to even get their attention. I also was not as impressed with the Mazda as I had hoped after everything I had read about it. Most of the 2000 models they had left were ES, while I was going for a lower end model, but I was still less than overwhelmed.

    The Toyota dealership was the last stop of the day. I'd noticed the Echo because of a seafoam blue Echo that parks near my work every day, and wanted to check it out. This dealership had 4 Echos on the lot -- two 2000 models, two 2001.
    The dealership was swamped. Apparently, all their previous Columbus day holidays were very quiet, and they let half their staff go home, and were unprepared for the rush of car buyers who descended on them. Still, they got to me fairly quickly, and when they determined I was interested in the Echo, basically just tossed the keys at me, said "take it for a drive," and then went off to help someone else. I appreciated the trust there -- I don't think I could have gotten a test drive at the Mazda dealership to save my life. I also checked out a 1999 Corolla they had on the lot while I was there, and then went home to think it over. I decided that I much preferred the sitting position of the Echo, and the fact that the car would be brand new for the same price (my first *new* new car!)

    Called back the next day to see what they could do on the price. The window sticker price they'd had on the car -- black, automatic, w/both option packages, was 14.5K. They offered me 13 K instead, and I didn't haggle over the price really, but did argue them down a couple hundred on the extended warranty which I added on. This seemed like a good price to me for the package, even given that it was a 2000 model. Hopefully, I wasn't too far off. A total lack of hassle from the dealership -- no real pressure from the salesman, perhaps a tad more from his manager, but considering they'd already given me the price I was hoping for, it was nothing big. When I asked them about floormats, they suggested I look elsewhere, since in their opinion the ones they had to offer were overpriced, and I could do better. (I'm actually sort of regretting that -- I've found no floormats specifically for the Echo out there, and purchased a set meant for the Corolla instead -- a tight fit, but they were right about the price, 50% less than I would have paid for the dealers Echo floormats, apparently).

    Besides being my first new car, this is also my first small car (I can't count the Nova, as with
    only two trips on city streets in it before it was wiped out, I never really got to know it...). I find that between having driven the towncar for six years, and the recent accident, I'm overcompensating wildly for space, and the actions of other vehicles. Hopefully, I will soon adjust to the feeling of having so much extra room to maneuver.

    I am nervous about the reports people have given about it being buffeted around in high winds on highways -- has anyone found this actually made them feel unsafe, or as though they couldn't control the vehicle? I purchased the Echo despite these reports since realistically, most of my driving will be city driving, not highway, but, I'd still like to be prepared, and know what I should expect. It's not a problem I've experienced before, as the towncar, despite its other problems, was like a particularly large boulder, completely unmoveable by the forces of nature.

    Reading through these archives, I also wonder about the paint job on the Echo. Is this an inferior paint from Toyota's other vehicles? I already have two minor scratches -- one, unfortunately, from the bushes I have to park next to, and the other from taking a suitcase out of the trunk. I also see a lot of reports here about the need for touch-up paint, and chips from stones on the highway. Is this the equivalent of any new vehicle, or a particular problem for the Echo? I'm going through a frantic stage of wanting the Echo to stay mint as long as possible, and wondering if I'm just not being careful enough, or if this is the norm.

    Apart from that, the only other nerves were caused by the cold engine light coming on for about 2-4 minutes each time I start up, which the dealership assured me is normal until the engine warms. I'm a small person, and really appreciate how high up the seats sit, and the view it gives me of the road. And, after my experience with the towncar, and the dying power windows, it's actually a huge relief to be in a car with good old-fashioned, reliable, *hand-cranked* windows instead.

    I'd been looking at the Ford Focus as well, which every single reviewer seems to love (while only about half of them are as fond of the Echo) but there seemed to be too many recalls and problems reported on that vehicle. I need something rock solid dependable, and am counting on the Toyota name, despite the fact that this is the first year of a new model.

    I also appear to be one of the few people who just outright love the look of the Echo, and do not understand why so many people call it ugly.
  • vadpvadp Member Posts: 1,025
    I stay around this board because the Echo looks like a very reasonable and smart purchase.
    The gas prices make this car even more attractive with each passing day.

    Your are right about the free country.
    Having spent 7 wonderful years (well, the first 4 weren't that good - had to learn English from the scratch and the American way of life in general) I
    would say that this is the best country under the Sun.
    The Evil Empire past (if you get my drift) allows
    me to recognize all of the blessings this country is enjoying. Just lately I'm getting a little bit confused and surprised with the level of popularity of the liberal (read: communist) ideas.
    And those ideas are generally wrapped in the very attractive rhetoric, so they're not as easily recognized as such.
    Dear Americans, I've seen that all: Socialist/communist propaganda was a part of my life since I was born and until I arrived here, in the US.
    I don't want to see and hear that again.
    Please don't allow this wonderful country to be steered towards dependence on the Big Brother. History showed time after time how disastrous it can (and will) get no matter what continent you're on.
    In other words - don't get Gored.
    Your children will thank you.
  • lynnann1lynnann1 Member Posts: 85
    For a long time, it seemed as if I was practically the only Echo on the road. Today, I went out for lunch and saw 3. Two reds and a silver. I also saw a silver one on Tuesday. It's nice to see others buying a really neat little car, but now I'm not so unique.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    My best friend's sister bought an Echo sedan last month (a 2001 green one without cladding) and she loves it alot. She already has 1750 miles on it! She says it gets great mileage and it's just the right size for her. I sat in one and had the legroom problem (not enough for my 6'3 body). If I could have the seat moved back about an inch or so, it would be fine. But then, I would be too far away from the dash I think. Dilemmas, dilemmas. :)
  • lynnann1lynnann1 Member Posts: 85
    what you need to do is have your legs shortened. See, problem solved. ;)
  • lynnann1lynnann1 Member Posts: 85
    >maniacal laughter<
  • njechonjecho Member Posts: 5
    The real question, Paul, is: How short are your arms?!

    I'm only 5'6" and hate being anywhere near the dash, so I drive with my arms fully extended, and have the seat al the way back...

    Works great!!!
  • carleton1carleton1 Member Posts: 560
    with the comfort of the front seats...but not the back seat. Also impressed with the very small price increase of 2001. Now, if Toyota will make an ECHO LE with padded armrests, cruise control, padded doors with cloth and carpet (as in Camry LE or Sienna LE) I could get my wife to agree to buy one. If not, we will have to go with Sienna.
    Saw a Prius at dealership and was very impressed.
  • bylleebyllee Member Posts: 3
    First: I got 41.7 mpg city and highway combo more than the 41 mpg highway sticker . Second: I was showing the car to so friends at lunchtime and as the car approached 55 mph I slowed down to 45 to because the road made a right angle turn. The car handled the curve with no problem and on the way back we noticed a suggested speed sign of 15 mph for the curve.
  • mdrewmdrew Member Posts: 32
    The wind buffeting with the Echo is definitely a feature of the car but I haven't felt it to be serious or scary; especially if you do mostly city driving you'll have little experience of it. (My brother has a Town Car and the Echo ain't no Town Car.) The cold engine light is just the "engine is not yet warmed up" light and the dealer is right; it's not a problem indicator at all. I doubt there's anything wrong with the Echo paint jobs; most people who need touchup paint have been whacked like I was or scraped the curb, etc. Sounds like you got a good price; hard to tell without the full list of options like defogger, cd, etc. One way to check is on the Edmunds new car page; add up all the stuff you got and compare it to the invoice prices they show; you should be pretty close it sounds like.

    The high seating position for such a small car is almost my favorite thing about the Echo and why in retrospect I would never have made another choice. I also prefer manual to power windows; never understood the big deal about rolling a window up or down; with power I'm always zigging and zagging another inch or hitting the wrong button (usually with rental cars). And I don't like cruise control so I don't miss that either.

    I really think the car looks great but I understand (objectively) why people think it's ugly--to me it's just "cool weird," which is infinitely preferable to all the other faceless drones you see out there. I wouldn't mind if they discontinued the seafoam blue as some have talked about, now that I have one--maybe it'll be a collector's item some day...
  • forgetmenot2forgetmenot2 Member Posts: 7
    I have 600 miles on my ECH0 now and Dad and I just drove around for 2 hours today, just for the heck of it. We both just love it and love that we sit up so high. I am very happy that the seat will go so far to the front. I acturally don`t need it to go as far as it can. I`ve allways had a problom with that as I`m just 4`11 and it has been a real pain so I feel so good about that. But now that this is the 1`st car for me with air bags I`m really concerned that I might get really hurt if they go off as I`m not as far from the steering wheel as I should be but can`t go back any farther. So I`m going to sit up straight like I allways do and then if it should happen I might be about 12 inches back like your supposto be. The other day it sounded like a really big rock hit the windshield or somewheres but on checking it out could`nt find a thing, good ! Yes I too like manual windows. I had a salesman who too wanted me to buy a Corolla. I had come in for a ECHO and din`t like that too much. He did let me go back to talking about the ECHO right away when I said I din`t want a Corolla. Dad is 90 years old and can`t get over it. He just keeps saying how nice it is and how nice the radio is. I just have to get him to turn down the country music he loves to play so loud.
  • forgetmenot2forgetmenot2 Member Posts: 7
    I just noticed that the time say`s 9:30 but it`s 11:30 here in MN. Does this town hall originate in California or where? If any one knows.
  • njechonjecho Member Posts: 5
    I've got just about 2500 on my Echo since mid-September. It's true what one person said about the wind buffeting: if you do mostly city driving, you'll probably not notice this. If you're frequently on the highway, though, you might. I notice it mainly on exposed elevated portions of highways, but even then, there's only been one time when I exlaimed "Whoa! Did you feel THAT?!" and had to correct the steering. (By the way, yes--my passenger HAD noticed...) Still--before this I had an old Hyundai Scoupe, another lightweight car, and in the rain, I couldn't even consider taking the car up to legal speeds in the rain. I have to say, I've had to Echo at 65 mph in the rain on the highway with no problem. I think it's just like anything else. You have to hope that other drivers are going to be reasonable. I'm always going to be panicky with an SUV 6 feet behind me, especially if I'm in the right lane and there's nowhere else for me to go to "get out of the way." But aside from freakish wind or inconsiderate driver circumstances, I think the Echo does just fine!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Edmund.com is based in Los Angeles, Ca. (I found this out by reading their road tests by the way.) So that explains the time difference. :)
  • vadpvadp Member Posts: 1,025
    Actually Edmunds.com is based in Santa Monica, CA.
  • wrgrahamwrgraham Member Posts: 112
    Here is a link to a NYTimes story today about the
    way car loans get figured and sold to customers.
    There are legal challenges to it.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/27/business/27LOAN.html
  • tickbittytickbitty Member Posts: 250
    Echo is a car for all ages I guess! Thought you were a "kid" when you said driving around with your dad, but your dad is 90! Wow!
  • rukawarukawa Member Posts: 25
    I was thinking about an Echo..
    then i wanted an Accent GSI..
    and then i wanted an Echo again..

    now i wanna get a yamaha or honda scooter.. hehe
  • kristi4kristi4 Member Posts: 13
    Politics definitly do NOT belong on *this* board, especially scary responses like yours!!!:)
  • vadpvadp Member Posts: 1,025
    Sorry to scare you (Did I?)
    You're right, politics don't belong to this board.
    Unfortunately our freedoms and the existence of this very board depends on the politicians and the course, this country will take as a result of the President race.
    I build my views on my past experiences. And they weren't that pretty. Truly hope that americans will learn on mistakes of others.
    In my post I was referring to my Russian past (remember former President Reagan called the Sovient Union an Evil Empire).
    And what I learned in a couple of words is:
    don't trust the commies (hidden or open).
    The consequences could be disastrous. Look at Russia after 80 years of communism. Not a pretty picture.
    Bush is not an angel. But Gore in comparison is true evil (as any disguised communist).
    I really know what I'm talking about. I've been under commies for 25 years of my life.
    Please be aware.
    God bless America.
  • forgetmenot2forgetmenot2 Member Posts: 7
    Ya, and I`m 56. Dad say`s the Echo`s the best thing sence sliced bread. Me too.
    rukawa- heeeee, heeee. That`s so funny LOL.
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    to smalley1:
    I just purchased an aftermarket cruise control made by "Specific Cruise Systems" (SCS). It is a "Servo" type unit rather than the older "Vacuum" type which means that the motor that pulls the throttle open is electric powered rather than engine vacuum powered. It was more expensive than the vacuum motor types but my experience with them is that they sometimes won't maintain speed when the engine is running under heavy load like a steep hill or a strong headwind. This is because of too little vacuum available under full or nearly full throttle conditions. I am very happy with it.

    The dealer said that he could have it installed for me, or I could do it myself and it wouldn't affect the warranty as long as it was installed by a reputable outfit. The place that handles the SCS unit wouldn't sell it uninstalled, and I wasn't sure that the dealer considered me to be "reputable" so I had them install it.

    to echoz:
    Note that this unit doesn't require you to mount a speed sensor to the transaxle. It just picks up speed information from a "vehicle speed signal" in the wiring harness. As a result, the installation is very simple. Besides the electrical connections (which are mainly to an existing connector in the Toyota wiring harness), there is only the servo motor unit which was mounted on my right spring tower on existing bolt holes (I wouldn't let the guy drill any holes so he modified the bracket a bit instead to use the 2 existing holes), and the little control lever that mounts below and behind the turning signal lever. It looks very clean, and similar in styling and graphics to the Toyota controls. Most people wouldn't know it from a Toyota factory unit.
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    I tow a 4'x6'x2' high utility trailer with my automatic Echo (no other options). The trailer weighs about 300 lbs. or so. and I've towed it with over 1500 lbs. of shingles in it at 70 mph with no problems at all. I know it was that much because I had the whole rig weighed at the dump just for fun and it came in at 3835 lbs!

    On the highway I could tell that I "Little Sir Echo" was working a little harder than usual, so just for fun I floored it at about 60 mph to see how it would handle itself. It down shifted to second gear and pulled like crazy. That variable valve timing is really slick the way that little mill honks when you put your foot in it! Any way it soon shifted into 3rd and the next thing I was doing 75. It reminded me of that kids story about the "Little Engine that Could". Anyway I traded an F150 4x4 for my "Echopod" (as my friends and family humorously refer to it) and don't miss that big tank one little bit.

    In summary: One canoe - no problem.
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    Have you tried different dealers to see if you can get a stripped down Echo ? I had to go out of town to get the unit I wanted (no options) but when I did the dealer gave me an automatic at the price I offerred for an manual.

    About crosswinds. I get a vibration on my Echo at about 60mph and over in crosswind situations. I'm pretty sure its some kind of whistling around the windsheild because it increases with the crosswinds and vehicle speed. It doesn't seem to last long, only during strong gusts.

    Has anyone else noticed this ? I guess it could be the antenna because I usually extend it fully when I'm on the highway.
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    I'm in my 50's too but only feel 15 in my Echopod. I tell everyone I haven't enjoyed buying gas (like this) ever since I sold my 1970 Austin Mini 1000. Remember them ? What a fun car that was! My Echo reminds me a lot of it except - faster, roomier, quieter, much better visiblity, better looking and I can hardly believe it - better gas mileage. I used to brag about 35 mpg at 70 mph in my Mini. Now I get that in the city !
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    I'm also eligible for the "Centrum Select" multivitamins. I tell everyone I haven't really enjoyed buying gas since I sold my 1970 Mini 1000. That is, until now.
  • melodyechomelodyecho Member Posts: 19
    To you KC echo pals. I just got my Echo last weekend so I have not had a need to use the service department yet at Molle. I was really happy with the treatment from the Sales department. I am not sure if I will use them for service appointments though as they are one of the farthest distances from my house. I swear Leo at Molle was so great to deal with, I feel like I should sent HIM a thank you note. :)
  • danny28danny28 Member Posts: 158
    You folks better get busy on that KC Echo Club cause I'm planning a trip down there from up here in Canada and I'd like to attend a meetin ! :)
  • janbeejanbee Member Posts: 127
    Hi all, ive had my echo for just over 2 weeks now and I cant get enough of her...thats why I was wondering if anyone knew of any other sites that featured the echo?? Would love to see pics etc of other echos....even another message board...tks!!
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