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Stephen
Maybe you should check out MDX board. Since Pilot is Honda version of MDX. I never get any extended warranty for any Japanese car I bought.
bjk
Both great cars, just different.
Some call the Corolla ride "softer" others (me) call it "mushy". Drive both and decide for yourself.
Timing chain vs. belt? Big Deal! So you change it after 105,000 miles. Chains wear out also.
Warranty? chances are you'll never use either one unless there are some initial bugs.
My sister has a '94 Civic without a/c. She is thinking about installing a/c and would like to know if the cooling system is adequate enough to keep the engine from overheating when the outside climate temperature reaches 90 - over 100 degrees Fahrenheit (Sacramento, CA temperature). Any helpful response will be appreciated.
Thanks,
glenglen
Thanks, I'll give my sister the info.
I heard that the temperature in Sacto reached 104 a few days ago. Yikes!!!
This is one reason why DX Hondas don't sell well around here - by the time you pay the dealer to add on the AC kit, you might as well have moved up to an LX and been done with it.
Toyota has made AC standard now on the Corolla CE - this will be the trend from now on, even in the entry-level segment. Of course, the '94s were another story...
DX's don't sell well in Seattle either where it rarely hits 80.
Thanks,
Carrie
I didn't change the air filter for my 96 Accord at 30k miles as required by Honda. It was still clean when I sold the car at 47k miles and I didn't experience any engine problems. Maybe Honda is trying to be conservative.
Carrie:
Yes you can buy Honda care extended warranty. There are different years/miles and deductible options, it could go up to 7yrs/100kmiles./$0 deductible. Keep in mind Extended Warranty kicks in after Honda basic 3/36,000 warranty expires. For instance, if you bought 7/100,000 actually you buy 4 years and 64,000 miles. You could buy it from Any Honda Dealer in US.
Here is what I saw for Honda Odyssey on Ody board, just give you some idea:
7/100,000/0 $865
6/100,000/0 $735
5/100,000/0 $635
7/75,000/0 $645
6/75,000/0 $605
5/75,000/0 $545
5/60,000/0 $459
4/60,000/0 $399
I don't think you will need an extended warranty for a Honda Civic. Well I don't think you will need an extended warranty for a Honda period. I didn't buy it for either my Civic or Odyssey. Also, you could wait till 2 years/24,000 miles for your Civic to purchase it, after 2 years/24,000 miles you have to pay a "surcharge" like ~60 bucks.
Regards,
Ben
ps. I just helped an Internet bulletin board friend to purchase a Rudy Red 02 Civic EX 4 dr Auto without side air bag for $14,995. She also got door edge guard, mudguard and floormats free. These dealer installed options are already on, so dealer didn't take them off.
The funny thing is that in my 2k1 Civic, the air filter is very dirty while the A/C filters look like new. Could it because I don't use A/C that much? Someone on this board said the air filter has oil on it and that make the filter look really dirty.
Ben, thanks for the info on the price. Is there a cheaper way to get the A/C filters than going to the dealer?
Enjoy your Civics.
There are a few Internet dealers selling them at a better discount than your local dealer (typical local dealer gives u 15% part coupon in the mail), just name a few:
1. Handa-Accessories.com
2. partscheap.com
3. hondaparts4you.com
4. www.hondacuraworld.com
H and A is the only one has price listed on its website $39.30. H and A and Partcheap are in Northern Calif which are closer to you but you have to pay Ca sales Tax of course shipping and handling.
hondaprts4u and Hondacuraworld are out of Ca so no sales tax. also hondaacuraworld charges $2.00 handling per order only. You may have to call them and find out which one gives best deal.
regards,
ben
With the family minivan, I can reset the fan down to its lowest speed in some 5 minutes. How... First, the v6/ecu allows the compressor to cycle longer. Also, the AC has front/rear evaporators (which is the sub-system that actually cools the vehicle).
In short, it's the nature of the beast.
also, does anyone have a recommendation for a dealer/salesperson in the LA area, I might be looking to do some wheeling and dealing soon. why would you recommend them?
thanks!
Check weekend LA times.
~Carrie
We bought one from hondaparts4u. Love it, keep the trunk clean when you transport stuffs. Highly recommend to get one.
Carrie:
My daughter's EX A/C is not cold as our Ody EX or Toyota Avalon, I drove it a few times and tried to check out her A/C but my trip was too short to really let it cool down. It works so so. Car gets cool but not cold cold. Since ours is made in Japan hope we don't have a leak in the system. I am curious what kind of improvement will you get after they fix your A/C system. Let me know, thanks! BTW it's not Freon 12 (CFC) any more due to O zone problem it's HCFC 134A I think.
[non-permissible content removed] luck,
Ben
On CD... if you touch a single speaker wire - your system is warranty voided due to out-of-spec.
If you do it RIGHT, then you don't need the warranty - catch 22.
If you use the oem keyless and install per instructions, your warr is good. If you install aftermarket keyless, then that could void your power locks (specific warranty).
i just looked up a 2002 LX auto on carsdirect and they give a price of $13,898...that seems pretty good to me. has anyone worked with carsdirect before? what other fees get added on? what is the buying process like?
thanks in advance!
It's a Tray. Thick plastic fits inside the trunk with a few inch lid all four sides to prevent any spill or dirt. You could just take it out and rinse it off.
mtyf:
Today's LA Times 2002 Civic LX Coupe AT $13,598.- 2002 EX AT Sedan $14,888.
bjk
bjk: i'm always a bit wary of the paper ads - usually it's the "one at this price" thing or i wonder what options are included, etc.? i figure when i actually go to the dealer that price will never hold...
Well what I saw on the paper is more than 1, 6 or 8 or more to choose. We bought out 02 EX in April. First, I emailed the internet sales asking for quotes. It was too high, so I questioned him and mentioned newspaper ad price is way low. He emailed back and said he will match any ad price for any car in their stock. So I went to see him and showed the newspaper ad to the internet sales. He took the newspaper ad and verified date was not expired, without any question he sold me the car at newspaper ad price. It took us 2 hours from step in the dealership to drive off the lot. (we waited for him back from lunch for ~ 10 minutes), test drove, also they had to get the car from their inventory lot then stripped the protection tape, clean off the car, while we were signing paper work.
Two weeks ago, I gave the dealer newspaper ad price from another dealer to a girl from reading my posts, she showed the price to her local dealer, they couldn't match the price. So she called the ad dealer to verify color is available and she got Ruby Red 02 EX AT Sdn at the ad price. She even got floormats, door edge guard, mudguard those extra dealer installed options free. Dealer had them installed already, and they didn't take them off when they sold her the car at the ad price.
So it is not a fiction! LOL!
Good luck your shopping.
bjk
bjk: when you say "internet sales" who do you mean? (sorry if that's a dumb question)
Most of dealers have internet sales department. You could ask quote thru their website. They could email or call you to quote you price. Price in LA is cheaper than bay area. You could get a copy of weekend LA Times and typical price is cheaper toward the end of the Month.
Good Luck,
bjk
Naturally, we were apprehensive about Firestone and the tire separation problems. However, to our surprise, when we got home, they were Dunlops; but the spare and warranty materials were Firestone.
I must say we are happy they are not Firestones but how do the Dunlops compare? It may be my imagination but I think the Dunlops produced higher road noise than the Firestones?
I know manufacturers use different brands, but what is the standard tire brand for the Civic LX 4-door sedan? And are the Dunlops rated as better tires?
As far as prices for new Civics go, the Western market must be much more exciting. We gave 17k for ours (automatic, same as carsdirect quote); but that included the infamous EPP package, and the window etch program as well. This 'deal' was from a friend of mine, to boot! Oh well, now my daughter understands why I don't enjoy dealing with dealers! At least the ordeal is over, for now!
ok, I think I've settled on buying an '02 civic over an '03 corolla (you've won me over), but due to my downpayment money being tied up in my canadian bank account (I'll be buying in CA and thus am wiring it over), I don't think i'll be able to purchase for a couple of weeks (probably the second weekend in August). I've been seeing ads for the annual Honda clearance recently, and now I'm worried that I'll miss out.
Can anyone offer any reassurance? Is there any worry that 2002 Civics (I'm thinking LX) will be scarce in two weeks, or that I will miss out on good deals?
Thanks, and sorry if this is a stupid concern!
Good luck,
Carrie
2002 Civic price is dropping. Watch out those dropping prices. You know Honda sells Civic EX under Acura EL in Canada. Riverside Honda is selling Civic LX 4 dr Auto $12,988. EX 4 dr Auto $14,988 some other dealers have the same or cheaper price on LA's newspaper ad. If you have extra 2 grand to spend, EX is a better deal.
Good luck,
ben
Are you talking about resale value between Hyundai and Honda? OMG. there is no comparison.
Lets' see according to Kiplinger's 2002 cars buyer's guide:
Cars under $16,000
Hyundai Elantra GLS resale value 2 year 48%, 4 year 31%
Cars $16,000-$23,000
Honda Civic EX resale value 2 year 61%, 4 year 47%
Resale value is based on MSRP not actual price you will pay.
You make the call.
ben
Also, think about getting a slightly used (2001 or even 2002) car. That way, you will save on depreciation as well.
Civic EX in So Calif is selling $1700 below the invoice now. I paid $14,988. Honda had promotion special finance rate in April, I paid 2.9% for 3 years when I purchased my Civic.
MSRP for Civic EX 4 Dr Auto is $18,270 so
after 2 years $18,270 x 61%= $11,145.
after 4 years $18,270 x 47%= $8,587.
I jusy checked used local (LA) car price @ carmax
'00 Honda Civic EX 4DR Auto 32K miles $13,998
'02 Hyundai Elanta GLS Auto 4 Dr 17k miles $10,998, yes 2002 not a typo.
Even' 95 Honda Civic EX auto 2 dr 73K miles $7,998.
Ben
Carmax lowballs you, then sells the car you give them for about $3000 higher. I know, I have been there and done it.
I took my 2002 Jetta to them, just to see its value. They said $16,500 with 18K miles and loaded (it's a 1.8T). I could sell the car outright for $20.5K right now, and trade it for $18K at the dealer (I checked). They were selling a 2001 car exactly like mine (only the color was different) for $20.5K. Come on now.