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MSRP 31,600
Offered by a Dealer is 28,600
My home work say the invoice is 27500 (TMV, KBB and Carmax)
I want to avail the 0% financing over 60 months.
What should be the price of this vehicle, What would it be consider a good deal?
Thanks in advance.
-juice
Thanks,
HDBoy
The original msrp was 30,229
after the add-ons $1100 more.
I figured just the van and the BZ package invoice at 26,126
I was not expecting the dimming mirror, floor mats or darker window tint. All things I decided I needed.
I figured all this added a few hundered to the invoice, maybe 26,500.... so that is what I offered.
I was able to seal the deal at an even $27000. I figured the dealer made $500 off me before dealer hold back. This is exactly what I was willing to do.
If it helps, I bought it in Phoenix, AZ. And yes I love the van. It has great power and a nice ride. I have about 3500 miles on it in 3 weeks (vacation) so far I am averaging 23 MPG. I figure I can get 1-2 more if I go easier on the gas off the line.
Only complaints: not to happy with the sound quality of the stereo. My van as the 6 cd in dash changer. I will live with it, but am used to a much better aftermarket stereo. Also, the rear air fan speed can be controled from the front, but not the temp. You have to reach behind and adjust the temp from the rear control.
I love the van and believe I got a great deal on it.
I hope this message helps you.
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/toyota/sienna/100834800/incentives.html
EDIT: Yup..I put in a New Jersey zip and got $1000
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I just got quote on a used 2005 sienna LE with 18K miles , toyota certified with options like remote starter , alarm , rear curtain airbags and powerseat.
the dealer is quoting 18,600..after some very fast negotiation. Do you think this is a good price???
I could not go by edmunds TMV or KBB because the price looks much lower than their suggested price...so I think those numbers are a bit skewed...for example 2005 LE base model comes standard with one power sliding door and AM/FM/CD but edmund's shows those as options when you try to do a customized appraisal on a LE. So its not clear if their LE base price includes these options or not.I think the appraisal tool should automatically remove all the standard options from the features list.
Thanks
ck
For 2007, though, I believe the RH power door is std on the LE, and the LH side power door comes with that same package.
Confusing, I know.
-juice
I agree with you about Toyota's packages being overly complicated. Honda has much better trim levels and fewer options per trim level.
So then it's like this:
Base LE: no power sliders
LE pack 2: right side power only
LE pack 3: both sides power
Weird.
I still don't get why they group a safety feature (stability control) with alloy wheels. You're forced in to an expensive option package just to get a safer vehicle. :mad:
-juice
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A
Year: 2007
Model: Sienna
Body Style: XLE Limited 7 Passenger, Automatic
Additional Options/Accessories Include: Limited Package #3 Includes: DVD Rear Seat Entertainment System w/2 Wireless Headphones, Two 115V Outlets, DVD Based Navigation System w/Touch Screen and Back-up Camera, JBL AM/FM/4-Disc CD Audio w/10 Speakers (Replaces Std 6-Disc CD Changer) and Power 3rd Row Fold in Floor 60/40
Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail $ 40,490.00
Your Internet Sale Price $ 36,073.00
Tag/Title Fee $ 18.00
Lemon Law $ 3.00
Doc Fee $ 395.00
Your Total Cost $ 36,489.00
*(Plus applicable Sales and County Taxes.)
I saw Boch Toyota at Norwood, MA advertise 2007 Sienna CE for $20,000. That is a very attractive price. Did anyone actually buy Sienna from Boch with such a big discount?
However, I prefer LE, mostly for its privacy glass, and partly for its roof rack and cruise control. I wonder if it is possible for me to get a Sienna LE with a similar discount.
The MSRP for CE is $24,155, and $25,680 for LE. If a CE can be had for $20,000, similar discount will put LE to $21,500.
I went to carsdirect.com and was referred to another dealer. That dealer told me that LE's MSRP starts from $27,105. I do not know what happens there. Perhaps that dealer simply does not carry LE without expensive options.
Any suggestions and comments?
Thanks in advance
It's a teaser, basically. They use it as bait to draw you in, then switch the price to probably over $21k plus taxes once you add those things back.
I would e-mail them for a quote, and ask them to include freight plus any fees they apply to the actual sale.
-juice
It is a pity that Quirk, the volume dealer in Boston area, does not carry Toyota nor Honda. I am ready to bias toward Toyota or Honda based on the price and service from a dealer like Quirk. My friend got his Nissan Altima through Quirk at a very attractive "ad price."
I saw that Boch Toyota claimed to be a large volumn dealer of Toyota and Honda. It is possible for Boch to achieve the volume benefit if it is really as big as it claims, and sells cars as far as it claims. Another question is whether boch has the intention to share this saving with the customer, and whether it is honest in this process.
Well, Toyota is a much widely desired brand than my Ford Contour has even been. But I can hardly imagine Toyota to milk the reputation of its cars and extract the last penny from the customers, and losing some sales in the process. BMW is a brand more likely to sacrifice sales number for profit. Well, I may be able to find out in this President's day's sale.
Edmunds shows the dealer invoice as $35,590 and a TMV of $40,015. The dealer says his cost is $36,222 and he needs to make $500, so that puts me at $36,722. I'm confused by the difference in "dealer invoice" vs. "his cost" (which I did see on his computer screen). Should I be happy that it beats the TMV significantly and take it, or should I be upset that his cost is $632 higher than what Edmunds shows?
I see other posts with quotes significantly lower than the TMV, so can this be trusted?
BTW, I noticed that Toyota.com won't let you configure an XLE AWD Limited with Package 1. They have "option B", which has Packages 1 and 4.
None of the above figures include the $500 rebate (zip 18411).
Thanks.
To that we added freight, a college grad rebate we were not eligible for, an owner loyalty rebate we were not eligible for, a processing fee, and taxes, and the car came out to $21k.
Just be prepared, get quotes from competing dealers.
-juice
I do not like power sliding door. I can live without stability control or cruise control. That is just me. Every minivan owner around me craved for all these gizmos and gadgets, and paying $35,000 or more for their Honda Odysseys or Toyota Siennas. A friend with $26,000 Toyota Sienna was considered a penny-pincher.
Well, I saw $20,000 for 2007 Sienna CE from Boch Toyota at Norwood, MA. Is this a good deal for CE? Did anybody heard of CE with the option of Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control?
I also called another dealer because they had a Pkg 1 and 4 van, and asked about just Pkg 1. He did a search of all Toyota dealers in a 500 mile radius and also found one with just Pkg 1.
Bottom line is that they can find what you want. If not, you should be able to special order from Toyota.
surprised that toyota is not shipping cars with hid to the ny area because this a very worthwhile option.
Just noticed something, too, that package costs a lot less then the VSC option on an LE model (includes less, of course).
Nice thing is that means you can at least get the safety stuff without spending a fortune.
Check out prices at fitzmall.com for a reference point. The internet price includes freight. We bought a car there and it was "no surprises".
-juice
2007 Sienna XLE Limited with the HT package, including rear seat DVD
entertainment system, navigation system, and power fold down rear
seat, rear spoiler, Laser Cruised control, pearl paint, and floor mats
for MSRP $ 42,552
Our Price $ 38,205 + fees, after Rebate
We have $500 rebate in socali. I want to do 3.9 % for 36 mo instead of cash back. So I offered $37K + TTL but he replied saying that was his best offer. Is that a good offer ?
Thanks in advance.
Well, I have to admit that $20K for a CE is still a very attractive price. Just the surprise and the inconsistence with the "ad price" gave me the hesitation to sign the deal right away.
Anyone has similar experience?
Study after study indicates the effectiveness of ESC/VSC, and NHTSA estimates the cost of ESC to be $111 on top of ABS. All these information cast a negative image on Toyota, which bundle this crucial and inexpensive technology with other non-safety features, forcing customers to pay two thousands more. CE Package #2 with VSC is reasonable at MSRP $1,345, Invoice $1,077, but has never been available at dealers. LE Package #3 (or above) has VSC, but costs MSRP $2,795, Invoice $2,236.
I understand that Sienna is excellent all-around. Even compared to its closest competitor Honda Odyssey, Sienna has an interior much more pleasing and luxurious. It just beyond my understanding that Toyota is willing to play such a low-class marketing tactics to announce a seemingly price-competitive model (CE and LE without VSC), and use such an important safety feature as ESC/VSC to block any intelligent customer from actually buying these models. In my view, that is bait-and-switch on a global scale.
We've owned two Chrysler products - a 1996 Town and Country and currently a 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan. We'd love to consider a new Dodge or Chrysler but frankly the fact that they lack such important features at any price rules them out completely. No wonder DCX is anxious to dump them.
Don't be too hard on Toyota for not offering those features on it's low end models. I'd venture to guess that most if not all minivans in the low 20's don't have them available.
Kia Sedona has VSC built in too on all the trims. But its engine/gas pedal response is too erratic to my preference. I feel sad that I had to rule Kia out.
To be honest, my wife strongly prefers the interior of Toyota Sienna. I was also attracted to that. We are willing to pay more for the luxury. We are ready to accept certain amount to packaged feature for features we want. But paying above $2,000 for a safety feature costing several hundreds is beyond our way.
Well, we are out for more negotiation and see if we have to bite the bullet.
Hyundai, Kia, and Honda make it standard.
fitzmall.com is a good place to compare, since they have both Hyundai and Toyota, and I'm finding about a $4-6 grand difference to get what I'd want.
Try a Hyundai Entourage Limited, it's supposedly a bit nicer (luminescent gauges, more sound insulation) than the Kia and maybe the throttle mapping is smoother.
-juice
There's a $500 rebate in MD, $1000 in some other areas, so check that, too.
-juice
Edmunds.com list CE with Power windows as standard features. However, Toyota.com shows that CE does not come with Power windows (not even an option)
Can someone help ? Thanks
That 2006 is a bargain, snap it up before someone else does.
-juice