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So we know it will have IRS, but probably no word on whether or not it will be RWD.
Also, if the new Max won't be here until Spring of 2003, then the current Max will have to run until December of 02. That is unless they kill it early like BMW did with the current 740. That would mean you could probably buy an 02 up until Oct of 2002. When they run out, everyone else has to wait until the 03 comes out in Spring? Does this seem like the way it is going to be?
Obi
Thanks
Honda, Toyota/Lexus never reveal the car until the end. Would a car company have something to lose if the car was featured in a magazine or on TV a few months before it was released?
Bob
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Lexus showed the IS300 several months before it's debut. Acura did this too with the new CL and the TL-S.
Then again, I think Nissan needs to showcase their stuff to get people talking about the new Altima, the new 'Z', the new full-sized P/U truck, etc.
Obi:
I think Nissan is building the new max in the US, so they will likely produce the old max up until they are ready to sell the new one (I would imagine). I bought my 2000 in mid 1999 (there were still plenty of '99s available). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan didn't go IRS (I read that the new Z will have a front and rear multilink set-up...go figure).
anyway... it sounds like you would trade your current ride for a new generation... I bet the new generation will be better looking than the new Altima... a little more exclusive as well.
A multilink set-up is independent. Multilinks front and rear are better than multilinks only in the rear. I think you're confusing this with Nissan's "multi-link beam" suspension, which is a marketing term for the non-independent rear suspension on the current Maxima and Sentra.
You know the actual SECRET?? It was a joke. I'll clarify myself better next time! Geez! If I didn't know what "Victoria's Secret" or "Frederick's of Hollywood" were, I'd shoot myself...
or else my fiancee would shoot me for not getting her stuff from there! ;-)
Obi
Why is it new car dealers think nothing of permanently affixing the name of the dealer on new cars WE BUY? Isn’t that advertising? Last I checked they charge us about $300.00 for advertising. Why cant we charge them for turning our cars into billboards? Why do they assume it is o.k. to do this… because YOU let them. When I buy a car I warn them “do NOT under any circumstances put anything on MY NEW car other than a license plate holder”. That way if I don’t like it I can take it off. How many people here would beat the you know what out of someone they caught putting a bumper sticker, or any other type of permanent marking on their new vehicle? The Nerve of these rats, after we pay tens of thousands of dollars, they deface our vehicles! Why don’t more of you stop the dealer from doing that? Sorry. I see so many nice looking cars ruined by some crass advertising on the vehicle. I think we should all stand up and say “I’m as made as H@#$%, and I’m not gonna take it any more
Why is it new car dealers think nothing of permanently affixing the name of the dealer on new cars WE BUY? Isn't that advertising? Last I checked they charge us about $300.00 for advertising. Why cant we charge them for turning our cars into billboards? Why do they assume it is o.k. to do this, because YOU let them. When I buy a car I warn them, do NOT under any circumstances put anything on MY NEW car other than a license plate holder. That way if I don't like it I can take it off. How many people here would beat the you know what out of someone they caught putting a bumper sticker, or any other type of permanent marking on their new vehicle? The Nerve of these rats, after we pay tens of thousands of dollars, they deface our vehicles! Why don't more of you stop the dealer from doing that? Sorry. I see so many nice looking cars ruined by some crass advertising on the vehicle. I think we should all stand up and say I'm as made as H@#$%, and I'm not gonna take it any more
BTW, i tested the 2002 Max today. The mileage info didn't change during the trip. What it broken or did I not do something right. It said 14.7L/100km all along.
Re: mileage. You have one hell of a steady foot?
I told the salesman at the time that I did not mind
if they placed their dealer logo on the trunk lid
of my new ride. Of course he was glad to hear that until I told him that if they chose to do that, they should have a check for $3000.00 waiting for
me when I took delivery. He asked why the $3000.00?
I suggested that was my cost to them for advertis-
ing over the next couple of years. There was NO LOGO when I took delivery and I have told every
dealer the same thing since then with the same re-
sult!
I'd never let a dealer put his logo on MY car. As for the frames and even the inserts on a new car...they come off instantly. I will not advertise for a company.
Blueguy, you do advertise for a company, right on the hood of your car. That company made a hell of a lot more profit on it than your dealer.
But day-glo? I'd take it off too!
The dealer called offering an over the road warranty for 5 years or 100,000 miles for $857.00.
It has a $50 deductible and overlaps the std warranty, i.e. it starts from the day I bought the car even though I already have 9,000 miles.
I am curious if others have taken this warranty and all the things it covers. They mentioned the free hotel room if on the road, etc, but I don't know about the car itself. Will it cover a new water pump at 70,000 or new shocks at 80,000?
I can ask the dealer but thought I would try to get some unbiased information first.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for your help.
In any event, as I have posted numerous times before (sorry to regulars here for the repeat), I now have 117,100 miles on my 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed and have yet to have a single repair that would have been covered under warranty.
On the one hand, the $857 price sounds relatively reasonable. And it also matches your driving habit of 21k miles per year. On the other hand, the Maxima is extremely reliable and, if you're as lucky as me, you won't have any claims between 36k and 100k (or up to 117k, for that matter).
I doubt the warranty covers normal wear and tear items like brakes, clutch, etc. (Again, I only replaced my front brake pads at 90k, clutch is still like new). I would think a water pump would be covered, but shocks may not.
I drive about 80%+ highway miles. According to my friendly service manager, my car shows less wear and tear at 117k than many "city" cars show at 30-40k. He previously advised me against getting an extended warranty, to which I owe him much appreciation. I expect that if your 21k miles is mostly highway, he would advise you similarly.
I hadn't planned on buying an extended warranty but the LCD touch screen on the system controls not only the Nav but also the automatic temperature control settings and that worries me a bit.
I work in the computer industry and know that these things (Touch Screen LCD) don't last as long as you may want them too.
I also wanted to know if anyone knows the exact prices for the different regional CD-ROM disks for the Nav system since I'm having a hard time getting an exact price from the dealer.
I myself have not seen the Maxima system. However, I have seen several others and they vary greatly in image quality. And they are advancing as I write. The 2001/2002 system in the BMW's is larger and much easier to read than their 2000 version (went to 16:9 format in 2001). I have a business associate who is rather upset that his 2000 M5 has an already "obsolete" system. Although not so upset to sell me the car at 30% off list.
Nav systems are an interesting gizmo, but at around $2,000, I'm going to pass. Whether I end up with a new Maxima or BMW 530, I don't my car to "age" as quickly as the last generation computer chip. After all, my 1995 Maxima still looks and runs great at 117k miles, which is a lot more than I can say for my 1995 NEC 486/33 desktop (donated to Goodwill in 1998).
Just my 2 cents.
I prefer the separate controls to the maxima system (or my wife's Acura TL), both of which have some of the climate controls in the nav screen.
Just a thought.
--Andy
Well, am I right in saying, "Who cares?"
It is not like I am ever going to race my Maxima on a track and it is not like I go throwing it through corners. Plus, when I DO throw it through corners, it holds the road fine. It is a sedan, NOT a race car and I think the suspension is very practical.
I owned a 95 Integra GS-R (ala double wishbone front and rear) and it was a good road handler, but not perfect. I also owned a 99 Acura CL 3.0 (ala double wishbone front and rear) and that thing handled like crap! The only car I owned with IRS that was worth it was my 90 BMW M3. But then again, that WAS a race car and I DID expect it to perform. It never did let me down. Awesome little car!
I think my Maxima handles better than my CL ever did. So therefore, is it really necessary to have an IRS unless the car is a legit sports car? Me thinks not. Unless it is a BMW or Benz, IRS is not that important. How often do you see people in S500's racing? Not often.
Unless you are one of those people into racing your modlified "Civic's" or "Accord's" and then, well....that is just a waste of money.
Obi
P.S. On that odometer thing. My car is leased and it seems like it is measuring LESS than the right miles. Go figure!
That I would feel quite comfortable getting an S2000 when my primary car is 7 years old with 117k miles is a real testimonial to the Maxima. It is certainly not "fully depreciated" in my book and I still enjoy entertaining comments about how great it looks and drives.
So, for all of you out there considering a Maxima, I really don't think you can go wrong. And, with all due respect to "canadiancl" and others who continue to express concerns about the Maxima's suspension, you're being too academic. I have extensively test driven everything out there and IMHO the Maxima SE 5/6 speed equals or exceeds the handling and overall performance of ANY front wheel drive sedan made by Honda, Acura, Toyota, VW, Audi or anyone else. It's no BMW 5-series, but then neither is anything else.
Good luck to all who have purchased or are considering a Maxima.
There have been a lot of comments and questions
about Nissan's "advertising fee." posted here over
the last several months. Just as an "fyi," when
I found that as part of the "deal" my dealer pro-
posed to me, I looked him in the eye and courteously but firmly stated, "Your advertising
comes under the heading of "cost of doing business"
and I absolutely refuse to pay your advertising
expenses." After checking with his sales manager
that advertising fee DISAPPEARED!!!
berbel