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1. The blower fan beneath air filter for the cabin is not seated correct and makes a noise when it's on. It comes from the passenger side right where the blower is. If I run the fan on high for 5-10 minutes it seems to clear it up.
2: A growl type noise that appears to come from the engine when accelerating and sounds as if it's coming through the vents. I posted a question last week asking if anyone has heard this noise. I got the following response:
"I am guessing that the noise you hear is the lock-out torque converter engaging and
disengaging at around 40mph. After it engages engine revs drop, and you can feel the engine
labor/shudder slightly under acceleration through the 40+ speed range.. My guess??? I feel that it is more noticeable with the 3.5 due to its torque curve and need for rpm to develop horsepower and
smoothness. It labors and drones badly in the speed range of 40 through 55 under heavy gas pedal
without switching to another gear freeing up the revs.."
I haven't addressed either with the dealer figuring they are worthless. Let me know if you have any luck.
GENERAL MOTORS Corp. said its OnStar in-vehicle communications service is expected to generate $5 billion in annual revenue by 2005. The communications service currently lets subscribers make calls, check e-mail, get directions and trade stocks from their vehicles.
It's my understanding that GM wants to make OnStar a standard feature eventually for all of its vehicles. Does this mean I will have to subscribe to this service if I buy a GM vehicle? The hardware alone must add to the cost of the vehicle. Why do we have to pay for it if we don't want it?
Good Luck!?!?
Contacted my service department today and "yes we've had to replace a few of them for the same reason", I drop it off tommorow morning.
You may remember a string last week about a dispute with tire rotation and some noise at the rear end. I went to a second local dealer and explained the symptoms. Rather than attempt to dismiss it as customer error, they dug deep and found and replaced a faulty bearing on the right rear wheel.
The service manager at first dealership had really taken a slack approach to the problem, just shrugged his shoulders said that "sometimes the tires wear quickly like that" and pointed to their policy of rotating every 6000 miles. I went back to them a second time and took a mechanic for a test drive. His explanation was "road noise" and the same crap the service guy went on about rotating the tires "right at 6000 miles" (I did mine at 7700)
The mechanic from the 2nd dealership noted the fault as soon as he heard it and his comment was "sounds like a bearing". The quality of service and people skills of the 2nd dealer completely out shined the first. I won't go back there, even for an oil filter.
Hey htwired this was in Milwaukee...
Looks like you got a good deal.
I own a mid size car that gets great highway gas mileage, handles well, is good looking, and offers a lot for the $21,800 that i paid for it. I can now buy this same vehicle, better equipped for about $20,000 due to GM's problems.
The MSRP of a fully loaded intrigue or similiarly sized sedan is about $30,000. For that amount of money I get a luxurious very well equipped vehicle, that doesn't have a huge amount of interior room or trunk capacity.
For the same amount of money, or just $2-4K more I can get a SUV, that has a little more passenger space, better visibility, and a huge amount of cargo space, plus towing ability.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why people buy these things. I think that the manufacturers have artificially increased the MSRP of passenger vehicles knowing that for just a little more the consumer would buy the SUV, allowing the manufacturer to make additional profit, since SUVs are less costly to produce.
This is why you see rebates on passenger vehicles more often.
Ideally the passenger vehicles should be priced about $1000 less. More of them would be sold. Their CAFE would be higher, rebates would be offered less often and the manufacturers would make a little less money because less SUV's would be produced. JMHO
jjpowell2, congratulations on the Intrigue. Hope you enjoy yours. Looks like you got a pretty good deal too.
I live in Waukesha, and I've been contemplating getting an Intrigue (trading up from my trusty '96 Lumina - hey, it may be a "generic" car, but it was cheap and it's been very reliable for me). Mother-in-law works in the Janesville plant, so between that and the GM card...
Of course, I ran across a pretty sweet Aurora (98) while window-shopping at a local dealer on Sunday. The Intrigue's not radically different, looks-wise, than my Lumina, but the Aurora is. I've always loved the classic Aurora (but not sure I'd want to take on the V-8 and premium fuel, as well as a used car). On the other hand, the Aurora'd be less expensive and wouldn't depreciate as fast, not being new (I'd plan on keeping the car for at least 4-5 years).
I only drive 10k/yr now (put 26k on the Lumina the first year, when mother-in-law lived in Michigan and worked at the Lake Orion plant building Auroras - put 10k per year on after she transferred to Janesville). I've driven her 2 Auroras, but, since they've been her car and not mine, I've had to be... gentle with them. Size-wise, the Aurora's big (on the outside) and heavy, and doesn't have that much room inside (mother-in-law is 5', I'm 6' and about twice her weight :-).
I guess I need to go drive 'em both, side-by-side. If I go Intrigue, I'll probably test both the GL and GLS (see if PCS really does improve low-end torque, something I use on a daily basis :-)
I've never purchased an extended warranty before, but, if I went with the used Aurora, I'd probably do so. If I went Intrigue, the 5 year/60,000 would probably do me just fine...
Any thoughts, advice, or suggestions (other than to go drive the cars, which I'm going to do) would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks,
--Robert
I checked the air pressure and there was 32 lbs all around. Pumped the fronts up to 35 lbs and what a difference in handling! It turns in quicker and definitely sticks in the corners better.
The ride is a little firmer but i can live with it. The trim around the rear door has started vibrating again. I will have to fix that.
b4z:::::::Right front tire; bouncing off of curbs or power slides. Not rotating regularly-tsk-tsk..
Off to the Doc and then to the dealer to have this dumb exhaust system installed..Also the service manager will get grilled today on front end problems--NOISE.
Mine does it when turning right and braking. Lubing the jounce bumpers may silence it temporarily. Last year, a mechanic (after 3 days of troubleshooting) pinpointed the noise to the jounce bumpers and lubed them good and noise was gone. It returned in a couple of weeks. Basically, if enough lube is in the right spot, it goes away for a while. There are other noise issues to consider such as intermediate shaft, etc. Have mechanic ride with you so he/she can hear it.
Hot lights: Don't turn your dash lights all the way up. Keep the dial about halfway or a tad more. All Intrigues are this way (based on previous posts).
Window thump: My driver window all of a sudden had this problem last week. Dealer fixed it. Paperwork said "window regulator bent/ removed door panel and straightened stop".
Gap in dash at a/c vents: many (including me) had this problem. Some got a new dash. My dealer replaced center vent covers (said they are sometimes cut differently). I don't know if they actually did or not but when I picked it up, the gaps were gone. I was told it will only reoccur (design flaw) so I put super glue in the seam when I got home. This was about 8 months ago. No gaps. Believe it or not, many were coming out of the factory this way (poor quality control). Apparently, the dash was redesigned for newer Intrigues.
You still got a deal though.
Have you ever noticed that in hard cornering that the inside front tire squeals. Shouldn't it be the outside tire? Maybe it is just an intrigue anomaly.
I've posted before about my handling problems (I've a 2000 Intrigue with Eagle LS), have had them check suspension etc... does anyone think this could be an alignment problem? I really have noticed a drastic decrease in handling.
You know the brake story and the tires will be gone by another 4k miles=40k total..Speed kills the life..The tire tread edges are barely worn; but the centers are almost down to the reminder bar.. The balance out of the box was great and wheel alignment is right on.. Hate to buy another set of tires for it is a pain in backside getting them balanced..
SLP exhaust went on without any hiccup and its not noisy or raspy and is only noticed at lower speeds..The dealer put it on and still has the old system. The SLP does eliminate the resonator so noise level is higher. Lets face it; the Intrigue is a big noise factor so any additional racket is hardly noticeable. My opinion of the different exhaust is 50/50..You will sound different from the stoplight and get someones attention; probably a drag race. You might end up driving faster, getting tickets, and burning more petrol. The cost on the car including all charges is $421.00..The rear view is obviously better looking since the twin outlets are 2 1/2" dia. ea.
No progress on the front end noise--struts are in great shape--jounce bump syndrome!!!!!!No cure except to replace with aftermarket kind..
235 - tire is 235 millimiters wide
60 - aspect ratio of the tire (60% X 235 = 141 millimeters from the rim of the wheel to the top of the tire)
R - Radial
16 - 16-inch wheel diameter
Using his example, 141mm X 2 = 282mm. 282mm divided by 25.4 mm = 11.1 inches. Add 11.1 inches
to the 16 inch rim diameter and you have a tire
27.1 inches tall.
This is a great formula for calculating plus 1 and plus 2 tire sizing.
Probably more info than you wanted. But i live for this stuff.
alternator and dash gap, I guess I missed both of those on my 98 as my lights don't flicker or get dim except a slight dimming when the ABS or Traction Control first engages. And I've looked at my dash vents numerous times and the fit around the opening is very tight. However, I did have a service loaner once that did have a gap above the center vents.
My service manager had no problem finding the technical service bulletin when I told him about it but he did say Olds forgot to include the part number though for the new alternator, if you can believe that!
If you would like more information on the bulletin, just call Oldsmobile customer care.
The last thing that you would want to do is go to a taller or shorter tire that will affect your speedometer and computer.
I would stay with the 225. Just get a more performance oriented tire. The michelin is a good choice and i think it puts a little more rubber on the road than the goodyears.
Anyway, I made it a point to determine if noise had been reduced. The answer is: depends on your perspective. I must say it is noticeably reduced as I had jumped out of my '98 into the '01. If you're coming out of a Maxima, then it might not sound like anything special. For those considering another Intrigue, the sound is better muted although it could still stand to be better. Rubber undercoating might do it. But unless you live in an area where it snows a lot, it might not be worth it.
We've been on this debate before but I revisited it for my own satisfaction. The 3.5 is very nice; so is the 3800. The two feel and drive differently but I won't say one is *better* than the other, just *different* if you follow me. I will say that it wouldn't be difficult to go from the 3800 to the 3.5.
The smoothness, refinement and sound of the 3.5 above 3500 rpm is incredible. Its passing power at 55 mph never ceases to give me a grin. I will never go back to pushrods in a sedan.
You need to buy that intrigue one2one.
entyyw... Any warranty repair is supposed to be covered for a minimum of 12 months/12,000 miles, regardless of original warranty.
Has anyone had this problem, and is it easy to fix myself, so I don't have to go to the dealer again?
THanks
The temp fix is to open the door and tap the end of the molding with a rubber hammer.
The permanent fix is to have it replace. Since mine was replaced no problem.
I would tap it back for now and have the dealer replace it next time you are there. It must be a widespread problem since when i took mine in the dealer insisted on replacing the passenger door too, since it would be next.
Good luck
When I got my car back it felt so good I started loosing my head trying to decide whether to get the '01 or not. At 72,000 miles and a new belt, it feels brand new. Really. So I resolved (not very resolutely) to wait for '02. Check back in a few weeks. I'm sure I will have changed my mind
Also, I had recently noticed some brake pulsation. Mechanic said while there was plenty of front brake pad left, they were developing some grooves and some "distortion". From what, he could or would not say. Bottom line, they say the fix is replacement of front pads and re surfacing the front rotors at a cost of $130. So far I passed on the work as the problem isn't that noticeable yet. If anyone out there has had a similar experience but has had the brakes fixed at no charge through a TSB or otherwise, please let me know. P.S. I do not have the Autobahn brakes.
Folks the side terminal batteries tend to fail due to the posts becoming loose..
Had a quick business trip today--Detroit to Holland Mi and return--total 402 miles. For 80% of the miles I cruised between 2500/2750rpms and got 26.2 mpg. Temp was cold 15/30F. The SLP muffler is okay and does hum along with some noise; but not rednecky. I will have to say that this motor was broken in using the rapid fashion with varying speeds. Oil consumption is around a qt/2000 miles using whatever the Olds dealer pours.
It was a fast day and several times we hit the triple digit for a mile or two. Had a 300M and an identical Intrigue with heavy pedal drivers and in traffic it was difficult to sustain a nutty pace of triple+.
dindak::::::The stock market is getting a little crazy; but I shall buy in tomorrow with more average down baloney. I am heavy in software and chips---but not in the chips..