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GM could still make a chop-top of the Alero coupe if they had any interest in jazzing up the last Oldsmobiles... I think ASC makes the Chevy/Pontiac convertibles.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Has anyone put on 17" rims from an Aurora on their Intrigue?
Good to hear from ya.
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vcjumper : 21" monitor, nice. I am waiting for the 17" flat panels to come down some more. Still using my 10 year old 15" Acer.
Don't be a stranger!
5wood: I'm sure the Intrigue is enjoying the change of roads!
5wood : $650... ack! I backed into a parked car once, cost about the same but no damage to my car. Guy was illegally parked though.
Our Alero has the rocket on both ends and it would look good on the Intrigue. Where will you place it?
I've got a 600+ mile trip to Florida tomorrow. I'm glad I got the Dunlop SP Sport A2's put on, they are so much more quiet than the Goodyears. They should make for a very comfortable trip.
Has there been any kind of concensus as to the types of mods that are most effective and the sequence in which to apply them?
Do you dump the Eagles first?
What is the best shock for the car?
Are sway bars and strut towers really that big a deal, and when do you go to that mod? ie first, after the shocks, etc...
TIA
Its too bad Intrigue now shares its suspension parts with Minivans. Sure is sporting of GM.
In regards to suspension enhancements, I'd first go with new tires, then add the front and rear strut tower braces. I replaced both sway bars and found that they didn't work (they made creaking noises). I sold the front sway and kept the rear sway and I think it's a good balance. I still have both strut tower braces and the next level rear sway.
The price for the anniversary option is $2315.
This particular car is a GL without PCS.
Very sharp looking, especially the wheels.
They are chrome 17s from the Aurora.
Lots of insignias inside with darker grey perforated leather inserts.
Total price was over 28K.
A nice car, but PCS would be mandatory.
b4z : Final 500 is one expensive option. While it's cool, I think I would have to pass and spend that $2315 adding PCS and a power roof. Oh well, I'm sure there are collectors that will buy. I guess the conversion for 2004 Malibus will be starting soon at the Kansas plant. I heard today Grand Prix production is moving to Oshawa in the fall for spring release.
I recently did the clay bar + swirl mark remover (twice, by hand, i.e. no orbital polisher) on my black '98 Aurora, which my dealer "detailed" (i.e. scratched) w/o my knowledge when the car was in for a week for an A/C compressor replacement. I then used Zaino's Z-5 and Z-2 products http://www.zainobros.com to help hide what remaining scratches there were, and bring out the shine. Zaino stuff is polymer-based and amazing, and, after you use it, you'll never go back to wax again (Z usually lasts 6+ months, and, though a bear to prepare, is easy to maintain once the base is on). Enough on that - there's a forum on Zaino in the Maintenance and Repair section here if you want to find out more.
Sorry to hear about your ordeal,
--Robert
It is black like all the others.
Rocker moulding-- looks like GM still wants to dumb down what they show the public, even on something as small as the moulding. I suspect the '04 Grand Prix will not hit production looking the same as the pictures they have been using to garner interest. GM needs to take a lesson from Chrysler. A large part of their comeback was because their concept cars came into production almost untouched (completely untouched in some cases like the PT Cruiser and Prowler). So what you got from the dealer was what was at the car show.
b4z : Do you or anyone know if anything can be done with the black rocker moulding? Mine is so hard to clear and an has marks all over it I can't get out. I wish I could cover it up some how.
SLP OEM bar
If you buy from ZZP, it comes with this bar and brackets, so that drilling is not required for front installation. Using the bar alone in the back, no drilling is required, and you only use one hole on each side.
This thing passes everything through. Since the shocks seem soft already (nose dive), I dont think this is a function of stiffness.
The wife is complaining mightily about the ride. Need to address that before the handling issues.
In my experience, Eagles have been crap tires. Anybody tried this route?
At 58K mi, I have just replaced the OEM S speed rated Eagle LS's with H rated BF Goodrich Touring TA HR4's that I bought through the Tirerack. They are quieter, have significantly improved the ride quality (the Eagles were almost bald), and most importantly provide a lot more grip. Others who frequent this site have been very pleased with the Dunlop D60 A2 with JBL (which BTW I had on my '96 Mustang and also recommend). They are an excellent tire for the price. (It's a Consumer Reports Best Buy but according to CR is not as good as the Goodrich's in the snow). I had a tough time deciding between these two tires, but a BF Goodrich rebate program proved to be the deciding factor.
As for struts, a lot of people around here have been very pleased with the Monroe Sensatracs that they've had installed (often by Sears). I spoke to an engineer at Delphi (the company who makes the OEM struts), and he claims that the OEM's were designed and tested to last 100K mi, but I do not agree. I will probably replace mine soon with the OEM Delphi's (GM calls them Reacteks) given that there are no Bilstein or Koni applications. Others have used another GM grade of strut called Road Response Silver ("RRS"), but I do not plan to use those because they are also used in softer riding GM cars and mini vans. However, you may want to look into the RRS's depending on how much comfort you're after.
Hope this helps.
The rear shocks are bilsteins from the factory and are fine.
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
For those of you who have upgraded sway bars, what brand did you use?
I live in Arizona, so snow handling is not an issue, and I was looking at the Dunlops.
You say you dealt with Tirerack.
How did care for their service?
How do they ship? What kind of fees are involved with shipping?
KYB's are popular with NY cab driver's as they seem to last forwever.
BTW, echoing what some of the others have said, Michelins are definitely superior to both Dunlops and Goodrichs, but nearly twice the price.
I exchanged e-mails with customer service which responded quickly and courteously. They advised that they have not installed the braces on an Intrigue, so they couldn't speak as to fit. However, they said that they will take them back and refund my money if they don't fit, as long as I don't scratch the mounting bracket's surface by tightening down the bolts. I have the 3.8, so I can't help you re: the fit on a 3.5.
I plan to return the STBs I got from SLP and use the credit towards the catback exhaust system.
The only thing I hate is the Eagle LS tires. What crap! The RSAs on my Alero were better, though not by much. I've never had such squealy tires, it's like riding with stuck pigs. I understand that most OEM tires aren't that great, but if I were Goodyear I would be ashamed to put my name on these things. Aftermarket Goodyear tires could be the greatest things ever, but I'm not going to take that chance. Just call me the Michelin Man's best friend.
I continue to be astounded by the huge gas tank. I don't think the gas gauge has gone below 1/2 yet - I find myself going to the gas station to pick up a pop or whatever, and fill up just because I'm there. What a refreshing change from my v6 Alero.
I'm glad I didn't wait for the "Final 500", it sounds like those cars are kind of a letdown. I paid $18.5 OTD for my base GL, to pay $2k+ more and not even get PCS would be a rip. It's too bad, but for a car that is selling like it is, I guess I can't blame them.
Consider this the last thing they can possibly FU on the Intrigue.
And you are dead on about the Goodyears also.
These superannuated sweetheart deals between car and tire makers doesn't serve the consumer well at all.
Ford learned the hard way.
And the 2002 is one sweet car, Eagles notwithstanding...