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  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    I had tried to find some aftermarket accessories for my 97.5 Regal. It appears that the companies that produce these chips look for maximum return as they have chips or reprogrammers for all the popular models including trucks. You could try and email superchips and see if they have one being developed.


    http://www.superchips.com/

  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    You can also try these places....


    http://www.motorsportsperformance.com/


    http://www.grandprixstore.com/


    The grandprixstore has a programmer for the Grand Prix not sure if it'll work on the Regal.

  • ks1060ks1060 Member Posts: 1
    Hello everyone.

    I currently have the opportunity to purchase a 1998 Buck Regal AS for around $11,000. It has 81,000 miles and has been well cared for. Since I have never owned a Buck before, I am not sure who to ask this to. Will this Buck (based on past history) run to at least 130k+ miles without any serious problems? Do you like them? Not like them? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    (I/I: Many people have said that this is a car for "old people." I sure don't think so. Sep. since I'm 18 years old and desperately want one :) )
  • regalluvr1regalluvr1 Member Posts: 53
    ks1060,you say you have a chance to purchase a 98 AS for $11,000.I assume you mean a 98 GS.Buicks arent just old peoples cars.I see younger people driving Regals.I have driven Regals since I was 34.

    If you dont abuse it and take care of it I would see no problems in getting 130,000 miles out of it and maybe lots more.We have a 98 GS with 33,000 miles and no problems so far.I change oil every 3,000 miles.The supercharger oil level needs to be checked more often than what the book says.Also keep the tranny serviced with a new filter and fluid at the proper intervals.Too many people neglect their transmissions.

    We have a 91 Regal Limited with the 3800 engine thats running strong at 123,000 miles and its been kept well serviced and never abused.

    WoodyBuick,you sure have alot of Regals in stock.Most Buick dealers in my area carry one new Regal and some have none.The LeSabre and Century are all they want to sell for some reason.
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    I checked both Edmunds and Kelley on pricing for an 81000 mile GS and your $11,000 price sems fair. As for how well the GS will hold up, 81K is allot of miles, but from what I have heard both on this board and from my mechanic today, the SC3800 engine is bullet proof. Of course with 81,000 miles on the car, other items like brakes, tires, belts, etc. will need replacement if not already replaced.

    Also, has the supercharger oil been check and changed at the 30K or more often intervals?

    Your decision...........
  • peufanpeufan Member Posts: 53
    This is very important....

    Is the used car you are looking at

    1) an "LS"

    or

    2) a "GS"

    The LS should be about $1,000.00 less than
    a GS.

    The LS has a 3800 V-6 Engine

    The GS has the SUPERCHARGED 3800 V-6 engine.

    Big difference. Find out for sure which one
    it is.

    $11,000.00 seems sort of high for an LS with
    that many miles.
  • woodybuickwoodybuick Member Posts: 33
    Question: You have quite a number of Regals in stock---why? Have they sold well?
    What kind of buyer do you have buying the GS's ie age, sex, ...? What other cars
    have they looked at? What's their reason for buying the GS? What has been your
    buyer's level of satisfaction with the Regals?

    Regals have been quiet for about a month now, of course that happens with all cars over time. I just sold 2 regals in one day (1 LS, 1 GS). Demographics: 40's males, white collar with income ranging in about the 70's. This is a VERY broad generalization. I have had 20 year olds like the Regal (either model, not for the power), and I had an 80 year old gentleman recently that wanted the GS for the motor! Buick has about a 65-70% owner retention rate, the HIGHEST in the industry. Even higher than Toyota or Honda. I guess that answers the level of satisfaction question =)

    That leads me into another topic all together. Satisfaction really depends on the servicing dealer. Most people don't think of this, but service is what you should consider when choosing between dealers. How smart is it to save yourself $200 and not get pick up and drop off service for anything, free car washes anytime you think your car is dirty, and free lifetime oil changes like we do here. Next time you are choosing between dealers for the same brand car, ask to see the SSI (Service Satisfaction Index) rating on the service department, not the sales department. Everyone is happy with a new car otherwise you wouldn't buy it. Those scores will be high. Another way to think of it is this way: You are going to spend 3-4 hours with the salesman, and live with the service department. Which one should you want to be more happy with. I hear complaints about people don't get the right service, and that bothers me. It looks bad for the brand when it should really reflect on the particular dealer. Instead of saying Buick isn't taking care of this, tell us the dealer. Let people know who to trust and in what area you live in. Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole tree.

    Anyway, that is my rant for the day. Have a great one.
  • hookdoghookdog Member Posts: 6
    I am at the end of a '98 LS lease and need to decide whether to buy-out, or purchase/lease another car. So far, the LS has been great, is loaded, well-kept and has only 27k miles, but depreciation and lack of warranty complicate my decision, as well as upcoming college for kids. I'm leaning towards the buy-out. Two questions: (1) is there typically any negotiating room with GMAC/dealer with the buy-out and (2) is there any looming LS problems to worry about (e.g., extended warranty needed)?
  • sailesaile Member Posts: 25
    I have a 1999 LS...the more I "learn" about the GS(supercharger) the more I want one. I should have never test driven a GS!!! My question: should I sell my LS and purchase a GS??? OR Place an additional 2,000 in the LS modify engine; C.A.I. system, exhaust, brakes and keep it for a few more years???

    Besides fuel are their drawbacks to the supercharger...trans or motor issues??? What would happen if I placed a supercharger on a LS??? OR Would it be cheaper to buy a stock GS???

    Dazed and Confused,
    Saile
  • peufanpeufan Member Posts: 53
    By supercharging your LS, you will void your
    warranty.

    The GS has a "fortified" (heavy duty) transmission/transaxle that the LS does not
    have.

    If you really must have the supercharger,
    do it right and buy the GS and sell your LS.

    my 2 cents.
  • sailesaile Member Posts: 25
    OK...Ok...OK...
    What's mo'better...LS(200HP) or GS(240HP)

    Supercharger is a bad thing...Don't need another ticket. Supercharger is a good thing...I really have to get to the stop sign faster!!!(ha..ha)
    No really any advice....
    Yes, I know LS or GS...it's subjective!!!
    Much like that...Taste Great...Less Flling.
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    I'd wait till 2003 (I believe) when the new restyled Regal is due out. Plus, Buick may also be introducing a 300HPplus GNX which has me thinking already about trading the 01 GS for an 03 GNX. Wouldn't that be something!

    Good luck. You know that 3800 engine is no slouch!
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    Absolutely agree with you concerning the service.

    The last year my wife and I bought a new Buick Regal at the nearest dealership. One mile from me. 3 minute drive or 15 minute walk. Very convenient. They sell also Pontiac, BMW and MB, and are approved by local AAA. I thought it must be a good place. But my experience with the service turned to be negative.

    Our second car is a 98 Malibu, bought used at Chevrolet dealership. Serviced it here while the car was under warranty, even while the dealership is 11 miles from me. Their service is fist-rate. Would like to say anything good about the Buick dealership. Even while, in theory, Buick must better than Chevrolet.

    I cannot agree with you, though, about the specifics. You mentioned free car wash, and free oil change, and free transportation. All of this is nice, but is just an icing at the cake with generally good service. And can aggravate troubles with a really bad treatment.

    My Buick dealer have all of this - so what? After several contacts with them, I prefer to pay $15 for oil change at Firestone. Because the Firestone treat me as a human.

    I also decide that it is better to live with not-important defects, than to take the Buick service. The problem is I will be more or less stick with the dealer if need a serious repair, as long as the car is under GM warranty. I e-mailed GM, asking if I can arrange a warranty service at Chevrolet for a Buick car. GM answered that it is possible only if the car was bought used at the Chevy dealer.

    There are several other Buick dealerships around, 4 of them in 15 mile radius, according to GM. But how can I know, if the dealerships are better than the nearest one?

    You mentioned SSI (Service Satisfaction Index) rating of dealers. May I ask you, please, where to look for this index?
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    The good Chevrolet dealership is Richard Chevrolet, Cheshire, CT.

    The bad Buick/Pontiac dealership is Mauro Motors, Hamden, CT. They sell also BMW and MB, but last year moved the operation to other lot, in North Haven, CT.
  • rooba10rooba10 Member Posts: 38
    FYI. Buick Regals are built in Oshawa, Ontario Canada along with Buick Century. The Regals have a very sporty shape to them. The lines remind me of 92-96 Toyota Camry. Buick Regal looks the best with 225-60/16 tires and alloys. The 15" wheels and wheel covers cheapen the look of the car.

    I drove a 98 LS with 23K miles two summers ago. It felt sporty, quite. One complaint was its soft ride. Since I was considering buying it, I borrowed it from its owner at work, and drove it home one night. Driving at 70mph on the highway, it seemed like it took forever to make the 32mile trip home. I bet the soft ride and soft seats will be tiring on 3+ hour trips. There was not enough left leg room for me either to stretch my leg. Wheel well was in the way. I am 5 9, and 180 Ibs, but I love the ability to stretch my left leg during trips.

    Buick Regal biggest attributes are its good looks, and GM's jewel, V-6 3.8L engine and excellent 4 speed transmission. I hear a lot people complain about trim rattle and squeaks. I am driving a 96 Toyota Camry XLE V-6. Toyota's 195HP V-6 gets about 29-32 on highway doing 70-75. Camry's gas tank holds 18.5 gallons.

    They say in 99 Buick added a engine brace across strut towers to increase stifness and regidity, and the ride is slightly firmer. Buick Regals also started using plastic gas tanks in 2000MY.

    Never worry about Regal paint job. GM Oshawa plants have one of the best GM paint facilities. The plant also makes Chevy Impala, Monte Carlo, and Lumina.

    Buick Regal production has been declining from 89K in 1998 to 78K last year. Some one said this car is lowest volume car in Buick line up. That Title belongs to Park Avenue. Last year, they built some 42K of those.

    With early retirement of Olds Intrigue, Regal's volume may pick up, but this year production numbers are way down across all US manufacturers, and its very unlikly that Regal will reach 100K. It does not make sense to have 80 days supply of cars, and give some $4500 rebate off the sticker to move the car. When those huge rebates go on, guess what happens to value of your used Buick Regal?
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    Thanks for your reply. It was refreshing to hear the emphasis you place on SERVICE! I totally agree. When I purchased my GS, I was quite serious about buying a Lincoln LS. However due to a combination of price, dealerships and my like for the GS, I chose Buick. So far, I am quite happy.

    The LM dealerships in our area seem old and run down. They didn't at all give me any assurance that I would get service equal to what I paid for the car and what I truly expect.

    I purchased my GS from Marquardt Buick in Barrington, Illinois and have been quite satidfied with both the dealership and the service. If things change I'll let this board of Regal owners know.
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    I would not go back to that dealer you bought the car from! If there are 4 other dealers in the area, try them all until you are satisfied. Call them and make an appointment for an oil change (when needed) to check them out. If you are treated poorly on the phone, cancel the appointment and try another.

    Service is service and you do NOT have to go back to the dealer you bought the car from.
  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Member Posts: 187
    ...but my mom wants to replace her 1991 Toyota Celica All-Trac Turbo with 150K. It's been a nickel and diming them a little recently and left her stranded once. Since she commutes 30+ miles each way to work, she needs something on which she can depend. She dearly loves the Celica but her confidence has waned. So... she likes my car and figures that, if I'd buy one, it must be OK. (I recommended the Celica too. They purchased it used for less than $11K and put 120K on it.) So... I went looking for her and found this:

    A 2000 GSE with 2614 (!) miles. It's at a Chevrolet dealership and was traded in on a C5. This car has everything but the wing. (Who cares?) They wanted $21995 but we bargained them down to $20450. I'm thinking this is fair. We could hold out and maybe shake them down another $1K but in that time, this brand-new-for-all-intents-and-purposes car could sell; another buyer was looking at the car as we were. What do you guys think?
  • regalluvr1regalluvr1 Member Posts: 53
    A like new loaded 2000 GSE Regal with 2600 miles is worth $20,450 but since its at a Chevy dealer have your Mom offer them $20,000 and I bet they take it.

    In Dec we paid $15,888 for a well equiped 2000 LS Regal with leather and it had 18,000 miles.It stickered new for $25,000.This was a no trade deal at a Buick dealer 60 miles away.I offered less and they wouldnt take it.Our local dealer would have asked $17,888 or more for the 2000 LS we bought and would have sat on it until he got close to that.

    Let us know if your Mom gets the car.I'm sure she will like it if she gets it.Cars are selling poorly now and most dealers are carrying a huge inventory so its a buyers market.Good Luck.
  • verdi942verdi942 Member Posts: 304
    My last Buick was a '69 Special that had a lot of quality problems compounded by bad service from the dealer. Thirty years later, my next Buick is a '99 LS. The service from the dealer, whose aging facilities are located in a crummy area is great. His latest good deed was to replace the springs in the driver's seatback under warranty. At 25K, the dash rattle has mysteriously disappeared. My only complaint? Should have gone for a GS.
  • mwdreammwdream Member Posts: 91
    FYI... when I was looking for my regal these were the best prices I got, both from Buick dealerships

    98 LS with 27k miles and Gran T. package, leather int.... $13,650 (bet they would have taken $13,500)

    98 GS with 27,000 miles, spoiler, chrome rims, sunroof, etc.. $15,700

    98 GS with 30,000 miles... $15,000 (This is the car I bought because I don't need Chrome rims or spoiler, just that damn supercharger)

    And my wife really couldn't understand why I wanted the GS, she never drove it. I was seriously considering the LS, but didn't want to regret not having gotten the Supercharger, so I forked over the extra money... now I have no regrets and a faster car. I have read other posts about people regreting not having the GS and I think I made the right decision.

    And to anyone currently debating the LS vs. GS... without a doubt get the GS and if the wife doesn't understand why, hand her the keys for a test drive and get the hell out of her way. : )
  • sailesaile Member Posts: 25
    Ok...I'm going to buy a GS and trade in my LS BUT...Does anybody know why I can't find:

    1999 GS
    EXT-one tone maroon
    I personally don't like the grey two-tone(GSE)...or is this the only way the GS are painted??? I've seen one tone(White and Blue)GS's but NEVER maroon???
    INT-Taupe
    with sunroof and 8 speaker system

    I've tried every new/used web-site...I can't find the Motts??? Does someone know of a car finding site??? I've tried: autonet.com and every search engine!!! Is my search in vain??? I need something in the West coast...Arizona. Hell at this point I'll drive to the east coast for the car!!!

    If anyone knows something...THX
  • peufanpeufan Member Posts: 53
    did you try

    www.autotrader.com
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    Do not know about 1999 GS, but according to www.gmbuypower.com, all 2001 GS are painted in two tones, the lower one being "storm gray".
  • sailesaile Member Posts: 25
    Found an older 1999 site...maroon ONLY in two tone!!!
    I guess I'm gonna have to live with the two tone...
    I tried autotrader...one MAROON in El Paso...here I come!!!
    One more question???:
    Where is the 7th & 8th speaker on the 8 speaker system???
    What size are they???
    2x(6x9)...Rear speakers
    2x(???)...Front Tweeter
    2x(???)...Lower Front speakers
    Are they in the rear doors???

    This GS better come with a cig.lighter and ashtray!!!
    Had to get the last one from AutoZone.
  • buster27buster27 Member Posts: 28
    I hear you guys all talking about the GS with the supercharger, and how fast it is. You are entitled to your opinions, but I am extremely satisfied with our 2000 LS with Gran Touring Suspension. The 3.8 liter motor has plenty of power, and even cruising the interstate at 75mph, it will kick down a gear and accelerate up to 90+ in the blink of an eye.
    I'll keep my 3.8 that I can put regular gas in, while you guys spend an extra 20 cents per gallon for your supercharged GS. Enjoy!
  • etharmonetharmon Member Posts: 399
    I think the 7th and 8th speakers on the Moonsoon system are with the 6x9s in the rear shelf. Probably tweeters or a small speaker like that. I don't think they are in the rear doors.
  • verdi942verdi942 Member Posts: 304
    Hook dog - I, too am considering buying my car at the end of the [GMAC] lease. I don't know about you, but my buy out price is well above [by about $3K] the likely retail value at the lease's end. Asking around, I have been told three things. 1. GMAC is looking at the much lower wholesale price if you DON'T keep the car. 2. So, they might take less than the lease calls for if you will keep the car. 3. All of the leasing co.'s are being killed by the inflated residuals on the cheap leases of the last few years [is yours one of those?]. So, while GMAC hates to take less, you might as well ask [the worst that can happen is that they will say, "No"]. It may help to enlist the aid of your local Buick salesman [there might be a commission in it for him]. Let us know what happens.
  • mwdreammwdream Member Posts: 91
    I only found 1 solid color GS and it happened to be the one I bought.. sterling silver. Looks sharp with the windows tinted. Other than that I found 2 white and a blue 2-tone. The 2-tone does look sporty, but I didn't particularly care for it... seems the solid colors are harder to find... I was told by a dealer that you can still get solid colors on new GS, maybe he was wrong though.

    On another note, the Regal LS does have ample power for the average driver... I have a bit of a lead foot at times so the GS was the way to go for me. I wrestled with the sports car / family sedan issue for a month and found the Regal GS to be the perfect compromise (for a used sedan in my price range) Though I was very close to buying a Mark VIII for not much more money, but was only 2 door... man was it much more luxurious inside than the Regal, Lincoln knows how to build a luxury coupe. Maybe I'll be looking at the Lincoln LS for my next purchase.

    If the supercharger is not important to you, the Regal LS is more than sufficient, and you can get leather and Gran touring suspension and still get in $1500 cheaper than the GS... at least thats what I found in my search. Considering the LS has comparable horse under the hood as the Camry V6 or Accord EX your getting a bargain at the price difference.

    As far as the GS gas.. yes the premium costs me $15 more a month to run, but considering I was willing to spend $1500 more for the GS, I have no problem spending a tad more on the gas each month to have that power on tap. I am averaging 20 MPG city driving now.
  • frankkfrankk Member Posts: 35
    GMAC will likely listen to any offers one might make at the end of a lease. If you return the car the dealer gets a shot at buying it at the residual price, which is close to the retail price, so the dealer will pass. This means that GMAC will have to send the car to an auction, where the only thing that will be certain is that the price they will get will be low. Contact GMAC and lay down the cards. Tell them how much you are willing to pay. There is a good chance they will say yes. I have 17 months left on my lease, and unless my GS turns into a lemon I intend to pursue this path. If they say no, its their loss.
  • jdinstljdinstl Member Posts: 10
    buster, you're not the only one with a un-supercharged Regal here! Don't worry, these folks won't look down on you for not having the supercharger! And I like my 2000 LSE just fine!

    (But I gotta admit, I find the idea of the supercharger fun!)

    John
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    From my perspective, I wouldn't have purchased a Regal unless it had the 240HP supercharged engine. It's been a fun car and hopefully will be long into the future!

    Based on the relatively small number of miles that I drive the extra gas money is well worth the SuperRide.

    No offense to LS owners, I just prefer the GS.
  • buster27buster27 Member Posts: 28
    Don't get me wrong. I drove the GS before buying our LS, and it certainly was a fun car. I just didn't think it was that much more fun than the LS, and didn't think it was worth the extra chunk of change for the motor and the premium gas.
    Ours has the Gran Touring suspension, leather interior.
    The Regal in both versions is a great car.

    Buick doesn't do a very good job of advertising the car, since most young people don't like Buick. (I'm 49 years young). Our 18 year old daughter won't drive it, because, according to her, Buicks are for old people.
    I'm very happy with the car. Just wish I could have talked my wife into getting one with a sunroof.
  • woodybuickwoodybuick Member Posts: 33
    frankk, no offense, but you aren't quite right. The dealer gets to buy the car for the average wholesale price regardless if the leasee wants to buy the car or not. GMAC gives the dealer what they call an "Autoquote". This is the average auction price for that car in that area with a given number of miles. I can turn around and sell it for any amount up to and including the residual value on the contract. The catch is, you can never learn what the actual selling price to the dealership will be (GMAC won't divulge that info to the customer). Verdi, you are correct when you say the salesman gets a commission. Not all the time, but sometimes. Depends on his/her pay plan. I do. Just tell the salesman to get you an autoquote and offer him / her $500-$1,000 more for their trouble. If they don't take it, go to another buick store. Or GM store for that matter. Someone is willing to do it for 15 minutes of their time and you can save yourself 1,000's in the meantime. Good luck.
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    Sport coupe:

    Chevrolet Corvette Coupe: 4.5 sec.
    Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Hatchback: 5.3 sec.
    Pontiac Firebird base (3.8l, 5M): 7.7 sec.

    Luxury sedans:

    BMW 540i Sedan (4.4L 8Cyl 6M): 5.5 sec.
    BMW 328i Sedan (5M): 6.7 sec.
    Cadillac Seville STS: 6.9 sec
    BMW 528i Sedan (5M): 7.6 sec.

    Mid-size, standard price sedans:

    Buick Regal GS: 6.7 sec.
    Toyota Camry LE V6 (5M): 7.1 sec.
    Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS: 7.9 sec
    Toyota Camry XLE V6(4A): 8.0 sec.
    Buick Regal LS: 8.2 sec.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    From the numbers you posted, looks like the vette is the best value as far as go fast is concerned. Lots of bang for the buck...course insurance is going up also.
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    It may be fast, but not nearly as comfortable as the GS. Us "older" Buick owners need comfort as well as speed! Once the new GNX gets into production (wish wish, hope hope), it may afford the speed and comfort us old guys demand:-)
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    You think that GM could actually get something right? It's been awhile, they might have forgotten how....LOL!!
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    The above acceleration numbers are from Edmunds. Just looked at the new car pages, for 2000 models (for 2001 the numbers are not available yet).

    Corvette is in the luxury price range. The MSRP, base without options, is $40k - vs. $26k for Regal GS. On the other hand, Firebird TransAm costs about the same as Regal.
  • dfritz1dfritz1 Member Posts: 9
    I just bought a 01 with the Olympic package & was
    told this had the same ride as a gs. Is this correct?
  • pinettedpinetted Member Posts: 104
    I think the factory paints most of the Regals in two tone, but mine is monotone metalic green. I noticed that a dealer near me had several monotone GS's in stock.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    If to compare the same type of "luxury" vehicle then one should compare the vette to the BMW 540i or even the Seville if price is the bottom line. For speed, nothing comes close not even the Firebird as any drag racer will tell you 0.8 secs is an eternity on a 0-60 time.
  • jackjtjackjt Member Posts: 178
    I purchased a GS with the Olympic Package (SK) and at least this pkg which retails for $1915, didn't include any suspension additions (which I presume it wouldn't). My point is that if you bought the same pkg as I did you probably don't have the GS suspension. Check the window sticker and see what's included with your Olympic package.----- My package included: steering wheel radio controls, electrochromic mirrors, monsoon 8 spker system w/ diversity antenna, 6 way power pass. seat, sunroof and Olympic appearance package.

    Let us know the results........
  • dfritz1dfritz1 Member Posts: 9
    i have the sf package which cost 3926.00. it has 16" alum whls & the gran touring suspension
  • dfritz1dfritz1 Member Posts: 9
    I guess my question should be is the gran touring suspension the same that,s on the gran sport? Thanks for helping a rookie.
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    The grand touring suspension is optional for Regal LS, and standard for GS.


    This option is named Y56. It is included in package 1SD, and the package in whole is included in your olimpic package 1SF. The data are from Edmunds:


    http://www.edmunds.com/vehicles/2001/buick/regal/ls4drsedan38l6cyl4a.html#options

  • ghostzghostz Member Posts: 19
    I just test drove a GS and I am impressed. I currently drive a '99 Z28 M6 so I know what power is. The GS is not a neck snapper from a dead stop, but you can quickly feel the boost hit. However, I do warn any GS owners to not get too frisky and try to take on a Z28 or a T/A! :)

    I am going to have to let my Camaro go for something more family oriented, but I want performance at the same time. I think the GS is perfect. I'm considering making an offer on a 2001 with Olympic package, sunroof and the Monsoon. It's a demo that's never been titled with 4,500 mis on it. The salesman said he pull the service records for me. The only reason I'll buy the demo is IF I'm fully satisfied with its condition AND I can get the dealer to knock off quite a bit from the price. Since the car has been used as a demo, any opinions as to how much price reduction I should ask for this depreciation? Is $1500 too much or too little? I hate the process of buying a car, so any help or opinons about putting together an offer for this car are appreciated.
    Thanks in advance.
    JR
  • frankkfrankk Member Posts: 35
    woodybuick - thanks for the info. Curiously, it was a Nissan dealer who told me that they just send the "upside down" ones back, and that they get auctioned. You are probably right, its probably a good idea to work with the salesman to get the dealer price.
  • yurakmyurakm Member Posts: 1,345
    GS is just a fast sedan. Most probably, the very fast of affordable ones. No match for sport cars, though.

    Well, GS beats easy the base sport cars, with V-6 engine - Camaro / Firebird and Mustang. Yet no hope to compete with Z28, or TransAm, or 8-cylinder Mustang. And let me better not mention Corvette.
  • sailesaile Member Posts: 25
    Everyone is talking stock GS's....
    I KNOW with $3,000-3,500 modify/add; tires, suspension, bushing, exhaust, CAI and pulley...What do you get...SPEED This modified GS can and WILL overtake most performance cars; handles almost as good, LOTS more power, cheaper, but no manual trans or RWD.
    The best part is you can take your boss to lunch, wife to church and still have time for a race or two. My LS has been fun but it's now time for speed;this is why I MUST have a GS!!! One thing I haven't liked...the funky arm rest/coffee holder. Oh well not a bad trade-off.

    I'm still having problems "finding" a GS;1999 or 1998, dark solid color(maroon), cream int, 8 speaker, & sunroof. Does anyone have ideas where to find this animal??? Does anyone know were the 7th & 8th speakers are located??? I'm starting to believe it doesn't exist!!! Does anyone have a 8 speaker system???
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