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Which CART races have you attended and what were your favorites?
Do you go to a lot of NASCAR then??
I talked to this guy from Scotland and neither he nor any of his friends like NASCAR. He said it was too competitive. The europeans are into the technology and the British put their whole being into destroying their opponent. That is why F1 is so popular over there.
I like the technology, which is why I watch every f1 race and every CART race.
I would like to see NASCAR go into more technology such as fuel injection ,DOHC motors etc. But that is not what it is all about. It is about the drivers and keeping everything equal and the have been HUGELY sucessful at it.
How about a high winding Aurora motor in a Monte Carlo stocker, that would be something.
CART needs to promote its drivers and rivalries more. This is what the average spectator comes to see. Except for Andretti and Zanardi there are no big draws in CART.
When Mansell was racing ,that is when CART was really doing well, But that was 6 years ago.
They need some serious help, and until the owners relinquish some control it will not get any better.
As for NASCAR, I like it a lot also but the races are not near here for the most part. Closest is Michigan which is 4 hours away and sold out months ahead. NASCAR doesn't need to change as they are booming.
CART does need to promote better for TV. Attendance wise, some races like Toronto and Laguna are great, but in Michigan the stands are half empty which is sad because it's probably the best race around.
Anyway... bottom line is, I love racing in general. ;-)
Ken
Got the 98 for 18K. It was by far the best deal I found. The dealership had 2 98s one with 48K miles the other with 19K. The salesman told me they had put the wrong one in the ad, and that they meant to advertise the one with 48k, but they would still honor their ad thru that weekend. Carfax report told me they had had this car since July and had put 2K on it. F&I guy said since they had the car so long they needed to move it. Whatever the case they would not budge on their 17,995 price. Next closest deal I found was a 98 with 23K miles for 19,995. Never drove this car, or tried to negotiate, and think its still in town. If your not afraid of buying cars over the internet a friend of mine bought a 99 with 13K miles for 16,100 plus 700 freight. The car must have been sold new in Canada because everything is in Kilometers. Hes happy with it. Buying a car without inspecting and driving scares me. Hope this helps you in your decision
redskin: Love the smell of racing. I think I should have gone into engineering so I could get a job with a racing team. Unfortunately I was better in business . :-(
Back to the Aurora..
BTW, your vintage collection sounds very interesting. I always have thought that the early 70's midsized Olds was one of the nicest looking cars ever produced. My personal favorite is a 72 Cutlass Supreme convertible. Never owned one but always admired them. I did have a 74 Cutlass coupe - first new car. That 350 4bbl was great!
Your wagon is a very interesting car - I loved those vista windows in the roof - early precurser to sunroof - look what BMW and Subaru do with 2 today! With the woodgrain on the side and the unique top windows those were very distinctive cars.
Other GMs during that period were nice too. My all time favorite personal car was my 73 Buick Centurian conv (replaced Wildcat in 71). I absolutely cherished that car for about 7 years before it rusted away on me (I was 2nd owner - bought it in 82)
Have a great day!
look like a proper fit. You'd need one VERY LARGE shoehorn to get
that Northstar V8 into Auroras very limited engine compartment.
The bolt patterns differ slightly as well. You would need to cut into the suspension (not to mention, REDO the entire suspension because of
the weight differences)
I would say that it is not cost effective to place a Northstar engine into the Aurora. You wouldn't get THAT much more out of it.
There are MANY alternatives to juicing up the 4.0. Have you ever thought about an NO2 system? Just replace that silly transmission
"power" button with an NO2 switch. Get an upgraded air induction system. They are an inexpensive alternative to an engine replacement.
I was at the LA autoshow this past weekend. I saw some juiced up old school impalas there. NICE. I asked the boyz what shop did the work.
They stated that they belonged to a shop and when I mentioned I owned an Aurora, they had ALL kinds of suggestions for me. They
wanted my business too! I was told I could squeeze out around 355HP from the little 4.0. The cost was around $6k out the door.
Hmmmm....(This did mean removing some of the weight from the vehicle for modifications...No Air, etc...Poo Poo)
I pick luxury over speed anyday...The two together ain't bad,either!
The end
What are your recommendations?
Have noticed a hesitation from idle in traffic, feels almost like a fuel line or pump. Any suggestions discussion group? Thanks!
Henry
Henry
I have not yet looked back into the posting history on this car - I hope your experience is not typical for Aurora.
Question - do all 95 and up Auroras require premium gas? What about the new 2001 3.5L?
Ken
only needs new drive belt and tires and rear brakes...
no sunroof or heated seats... very clean
$10,080 figure $600 to get it top shape...
please email if this is good deal... mwdream@aol.com
Thanks
if I pay $10 now can I get back $6 k 3 years from now?
smuvej : $25K would be a great deal. Offer and see what happens. Resale should be ok on Aurora, it will likely be around for a few more years. Oldsmobile is the second eldest name in automobiles. Everyone knows the name.
Thanks!
Don't know if the aurora shares the same suspension flaws as the intrigue, maybe some of the owners can share some insight on that front.
Even with my intrigue problems i still think it drives better than the impala. And the engine is something else.
Good Luck.
First off, I will mention warranties. I BOUGHT a warrantydirect contract
and I am TOTALLY happy with it. The customer service is outstanding
and they really cover almost everything. But because my Aurora
is such a well engineered car, I have yet to use them. 55k miles now!
(Someone PLEASE knock on some wood for me)
Speaking of wood. The wood dash kit for these cars makes a real
difference on the inside. It's much warmer. (yes, I finally got the kit!)
Anyhow. It was easy and it made a big difference inside. I think Zinc
has photos on his site. Amazing...
Engine specs. Here is what Olds verbally told me in person about the
4.0 engine. The specs are the same, but the mounts are different.
Due to the front suspension assembly, engine mounts are placed
in different locations. He showed me one that is actually UNDER the
engine. I saw it. It raised the block by 4 inches. If you look at the
clearance with the hood, 4 inches is everything. If you were to add
the Northstar, there would be significant modifications needed to
the suspension/mounts to correct for this 4 inch gap.
Henry: I would suggest discussing this with a local GM dealership.
Get the technical specs and have an engineer show you the
differences in engine mounts. I believe it can be done, but the cost
could surpass the value of what you get out of it.
watch out for would be the '95 and '96 models. GM is notorious for
making "test" cars when they first come out. '95 is the first year of
the Aurora, so it has some obvious problems. By 1997/1998, they
hammered out most of the engineering problems and designed a
well balanced automobile.
Each Aurora is unique though, so not all will perform/behave the same.
My '97 has had very minor issues. The seals around the rear window
came apart and the air conditioning main control door. It was under
warranty at the time. Other than that, I have 51k (not 55k) happy
miles with my car. Keep in mind that I BABY this car as if it was a
human being. But I am a sick, materialistic individual that cares
WAY too much about cars. I get it serviced and keep it maintained
at REAL strict intervals.
Oh...And I NEVER EVER let my wife drive it. (Dont tell her I said that!)
Henry: Gimme a little more time to get that envelope/postage to you.
I've had a very tuff week here at the office. Real Busy! ...
I was just at a Pontiac dealership looking at the T/A for 2002. I parked my 95 Classic in front of the dealership in front of the service entrace since it was closed. NEVER park a CLASSIC in a parking lot next to another car. (see rule #3 in the Aurora owners manual)
I came out to find two people standing there admiring the car who told me never to sell the car because it will be a classic (as if any Aurorian needed to be told that). One guy was a Pontiac salesman that used to sell Olds. He stated that this and the Toro coupe were the best cars Olds produced (he obviously forgot the 442).
While this is not a swipe at the 2K1 kids, we all agreed that the Classic was a better looking car.
I say if you can get your hands on a Classic buy it, but be sure not to overpay. the car is a real sleeper so it is relatvely cheap to buy [[for now]].
VWBUS -- If I did not say this before, thanks for all of your information on installing the caddie engine.
Yes, I am now leaning to the Aurora. I think you suggested that I try it out (due to my affinity for the Volvo). I had such a nice drive and was impressed by the style. Also -- UNLIKE THE VOLVO -- I have not heard much in terms of reliability issues in the Aurora -- at least the newer models. I was going to get a fully-loaded Intrigue GLS; now, I am leaning toward luxury. The problems associated with the '98 Volvo have kicked me into the direction of the Aurora; the styling has moved me away from the Intrigue.
Redskin --
I believe that KBB inflates prices in favor of the dealers. NADA.Com (run by the National Association of Auto Dealears!!) certainly does so. I prefer Edmunds and other sites out there (Intellichoice.com, Caranddriver.com, etc.) So far, I believe most of the sites have failed to factor in the plummeting demand for cars -- new or used. I expect to see an ever larger drop in market values for February.
BTW, the reason I called was to ask about the new 5/60 MPP which I thought was more like a warranty (even if it was obviously a marketing thing) but it ends up it's more like an MPP
I was trying to claim they should give it to recent buyers like yours truly but since it's not a warranty (i.e. they stand by the car) it doesn't work that way. Oh well, doesn't hurt to try.
Take care, all.