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I drove my Accord EX V6 for 3 years and put on 36,500 miles - I thought it was a great car for the price. My 2 big complaints were - (1) some funky transmission shifting when I jammed on the accelerator - it seemed to lag a little bit, and (2) I thought the engine was overpowered for the car - at highway speeds if I had to quickly stop or maneuver I would feel like the car was unstable.
The 3.2 TL on the other hand has a much smoother and responsive transmission - no problems when jamming on the accelerator. The suspension and braking feels MUCH more secure to me than in the Accord (I don't know if Honda has changed this in the past few years - I am comparing against my 1998 Honda).
The Acura feels like a more refined car than the Accord. Make no mistake - if you go with the Accord you DO save money but you also DO give up some of the refinement present in the Acura. The HID headlamps are also quite impressive.
-W9
My argument has been the same from the beginning. I compared the vehicles and felt the $3500 difference wasn't worth it to ME. The cars are different, yeah they share many of the same underpinnings but they are different enough to have a $3500 price difference.
I still believe this thread is pointless, they are two different vehicles in different classes. Comparing the TL to the different Lexus' makes much more sense.
Sorry you feel the need to justify the 27 large (or more) you spent on a Honda!
Thank God Acura FINALLY put some distance between the 2 cars with the Type S. If Honda comes out with a 260 HP Accord or an MDX with a Honda badge, then I'm selling my Type S and getting a BMW.
Also, is one V6 better than the other (from 1997 to 1998+)??
thanks
Thanks in Advance
SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY:
"WHAT THE FLOCK!"
From "Liposlim"
If you compare Accord and TLs invoice, I think what Honda demands for both of them is justified & it is up to you to decide. When the Accord goes for invoice and TL for MSRP....then it shifts slightly towards Accord but consumers compare it with ES300 instead of Accord.
Mind you, TL & Accord are based on the same global midsize platform, but TL has longer wheelbase and more rigid chassis with extra crossmebers in back & more re-inforcements. Thats the reason why TL lack the Accords legroom and folddown rear seats. Answer liles in better chassis dynamics.
of TL and Accord V6?
Thanks.
They are in different class. TL should be comparing to I30 or ES300 and Accord should be compare to camry or Maxima ..
Theses car are in different class that's why there's a gap of 5K in between them.
If's Accord is comparable to TL , then might as well compare it to the ES300 and the I30 .. they are only 6-7K difference ... which is only 1-2K more when compare it with the TL.
Both are great car from Honda, but one is a luxury department. They may look similar, but they did not share any sheet metal ...
Not much mention of the sport-shift (or whatever Acura calls the darn thing). Does anyone bother to use it regularly? I'm sure gonna miss the stick. This might be the one car that makes me part with my noisy but beloved Miata.
The car is a joy to drive and the comfort level is on a different plane than the Accord.
The navigation system is the greatest option ever and even after 10 months of owning this car I still use it often.
I enjoyed my Accords ( I owned 2 of them ), but saying it compares to the TL is just crazy talk.
Later.
so what is the verdict ?
Is $7k-$11k price difference between Accord and TL worth it ?
Accord is offering (as low as) 3.9% APR ..
Acura has, well, the Acura name on the car ..
Acura, according to many people here, has better ride and comfort (and performance) overall.
Based on my research, both cars seem to be equipped with same features (audio, leather, moonroof,etc)
I know comparing and buying cars are subjective but any opinion is greatly appreciated.
one confused, undecided car-buyer.
Now that we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have the requirement to stop and restart discussions after the numbers of posts exceed a certain limit. To keep from confusing our newer members down the road, we are going through the discussion list bit by bit and dropping the "part" numbers associated with some of our extended discussions.
Since this will be the permanent home of debates about the TL vs the EX V6, I have removed the "Part 2" from the title of this discussion.
Please continue....
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I've trying to solve that very problem. Is the extra money for a TL over an Accord V6 well spent? Well, yes, I think, from an added feature viewpoint. For your extra five thousand or so bucks you'll get ... a more powerful engine, upgraded interior, HID lights, fog lights, Sport-tronic 5 spd transmission, 16" alloy wheels, heated leather seats with memory, better warranty, etc. However, may be the real question is "Is an Accord V6 good enough for your driving habits/values?" You'll still get the main features that the TL has ... V6, auto climate control, leather, moonroof, alloy wheels, 6-disc CD, etc. ... but save a few thousand bucks, especially with Honda's current financing offer.
My current Honda Accord has lasted over nine years and 162,000 miles. I keep trying to remind myself to buy exactly the car that I want and will find fun to drive because I may have it a long time and be spending a lot of time in it.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
thanks for such thoughtful and meaningful comment
i think i will go for a test-drive and see what happens.
TMV for 2001 acura TL w/o nav is 27k
TMV for 2002 acura TL w/o nav is 29k
i guess it's not fair to compare 01 accord against 02 tl but in my case i was considering either 01 accord or 02 tl ( since 02 tl has in-dash 6 cd changer and quieter ride )
I like the idea of buying an EX V6 and keeping
the extra money saved in a mutual fund. But since
I plan to own my new car for a long time (my
'89 Accord is still running fine), I also like the
idea of getting a better car, so that I can
enjoy it for a long time.
What do you think?
The Accord, on the other hand, lets way too much road noise in, in my opinion. If comfort and quietness in a $25,000 car are your top priorities, a Camry or a pre-owned 99 Lexus ES300 or TL is a better choice. I'm suprised with all it's engineering talent, Honda has not yet been able to beat or even match Toyota in the isolation and quietness department.
The Accord, on the other hand, lets way too much road noise in, in my opinion. If comfort and quietness in a $25,000 car are your top priorities, a Camry or a pre-owned 99 Lexus ES300 or TL is a better choice. I'm suprised with all it's engineering talent, Honda has not yet been able to beat or even match Toyota in the isolation and quietness department.
For what it's worth, the 2001 Accord supposedly has a bunch of improvements to address noise. As a car stereo enthusiast, noise is important to me, and you won't be disappointed with the noise levels in either the Accord, Camry, or TL.
Add $600 for adding heated seats to the leather.
Add $600 for paint protector and sound dampening undercoating. Makes it $24,100.
Still has no memory seats. Is a rougher ride over bumps than the Acura TL, but has very good pickup. Regular 2002 TL no nav - best quote I have received is $500 off invoice. Would be about $28,900 - but that is exceptional. (May 31st 2001 at the moment) So round up to $29,100.
That is a $5,000 difference. More than $6,000 if you don't add the paint protector and heated seats to the Accord. TL has better ride, better leather, seat memory, fogs, tilt right mirror,
better horsepower. Is it worth an extra 6k? Depends what you want. I bet the Accord gets better gas milage. From what I have heard - the TL's gas milage doesn't come in too well vs. sticker - and you have to use premium. Accord uses regular - and has same gas specs. So - I don't know which we will buy yet. Tough decision.
And yes, the TL needs premium unleaded fuel. With gas prices the way they are and not much relief in sight, that would be a concern of mine also.
You also lose some interior room in the TL. It sits lower to the ground to help aerodynamics. The rear seat is not as roomy as the Accord.
Partially, I piced the Accord coupe because of price, but mostly because of interior & exterior styling. The excessive fake wood in the 3.2TL turned me off as well as the bulky feeling when driving it. Not to mention the front end of the 3.2TL doesn't look very good.
ALso, I didn't really see the need or difference for the extra 25bhp and about 1/2 second in 0-60 difference.
Overall, very happy with my Accord Coupe.
I'm also betting by 2003, the base 3.2TL's power will be upgraded also. Don't you think?
Oh, boy, isn't this car smooth and powerful? I love it.
Thanks to all!
Hut
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Where's the comparison? THe Accord EX-V6 is a $25K car at retail, while the 3.2TL-S is a $34K or so car at retail. I would expect more features, performance, quality in even a base 3.2TL over a Accord EX-V6, but a Type-S? Come on.
sneufeld1,
Yes, the 3.2TL is a better value. The 3.2TL, even 3 years later, is still the best value in the entry level luxury segment, IMO.
Trust me. There is no reason why I post trash on the net where I got loads of good information.
Good luck!
Hut