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here is the info from the IMPALA RADIO FORUM that we came up with
more than 6 months ago. Somehow - posts on that board got deleted,
corrupted or renumbered when this Townhall software was changed.
So let me try reposting it here from a compiled rewrite I had saved off line.
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2000 IMPALA/MONTE CARLO TRUNK AMP BYPASS
If you do the trunk amp bypass, IT IS COMPLETELY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
This is merely a makeshift "fix" for something GM/Chevrolet should have gotten right in the first place. Although it sounds much better, especially at low to moderate
listening levels, I still have reservations about it.
I still think GM should do a recall and fix it properly and assure us of its safety.
I did not arrive at this "solution" alone - although I may have helped push the
issue and lead the way.
CREDITS:
Jmahler - a guy who's been reading prints for 40 years - came up with the wiring
combo.
Humahuma first planted the notion that a trunk amp bypass was possible.
Also, bypassers-to-be should at least read all the subsequent posts after
about 160 in IMPALA RADIO forum to get a full picture of what this is all
about BEFORE deciding to do it.
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Finally let me add this:
This bypass will give you a LOT MORE BASS - potentially TOO MUCH BASS
if you're not careful - you COULD literally blow the speakers!!!
SOOOOOOOOOO When you're finally ready to try this and are just about to do it,
Re-read this:
(Please, PRINT THIS or WRITE IT DOWN.)
The radio is a push-on/push-off design, so some precautions are required to avoid
post bypass overload!
Turn the radio on.
Turn the VOLUME DOWN VERY LOW.
Put the tone on MANUAL.
Turn the BASS DOWN - at least two notches left of center.
Next, push the radio power OFF.
Take the key out.
With radio power OFF, I UNPLUGGED the smaller power plug from the trunk
amp to avoid the possibility of burning out the amp by operating it without a load.
Then I carefully UNPLUGGED the bigger "C1" plug for sound feeds and returns.
You will need 8 small gauge wires, each about 70mm in length, with both ends
stripped about 6mm.
Following jjmahler's POST #176, I jumped the following on the "C1" plug:
Right spkrs Left spkrs
B1-to-B9 (LF-)
A1-to-A9 (RF-)
B2 to B10 (LF+)
A2 to A10 (RF+)
B3 to B11 (LR-)
A3 to A11 (RR-)
B4 to B12 (LR+)
A4 to A12 (RR+)
When I put the key in and turned on the radio, it lit up and sounded
absolutely GREAT. To those who try this, you will not believe your ears.
The difference is like night and day. It sounds very rich - just as good
as the Impala radios without the trunk amp.
IMPORTANT UNRESOLVED ISSUES:
I DID NOT replug the power plug into the amp
TPKEN - did you ever check out www.volocars.com (RE: 67 Impala SS)
Jeff
Ken
Ken
Ken
Ken
Here's the rest of that Impala Radio Amp Bypass post
that got cut off earlier. This is my 4th try to get it posted.
For the benefit of "crosley", "tomaso" and others.......
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IMPORTANT UNRESOLVED ISSUES:
I DID NOT replug the power plug into the amp.
Why power something that isn't working? I do not know if leaving it hang
unconnected presents a safety or electrical hazard.
I DO NOT know if leaving the radio wired this way will damage anything
in the car.
The speaker plug with its 8 pigtail jumpers looks pretty sad hanging up there
in the trunk and there must be a more elegant solution like a factory
supplied male jumper plug. How cheap would that be for GM to provide that fix?
VERY CHEAP.
To those who try the amp bypass, please post your results.
I am anxious to know what you think.
Good Luck! "duraflex"
I collect these babies and so far my collection is outgrowing our small apartment! I am planning on getting next a '65 Impala and a '96 Impala SS which are both available on 1/18 scale. I am hoping to see if someone decides to make a 1/18 replica of the Y2K Impala (The Y2K Montecarlo is already available). I have 3 Y2K "Police" Impalas...One is a 1/75 Matchbox "Cleveland Police" Impala, then I Have a 1/67 (I Believe) NYPD Impala (Very richly detailed) and the biggest one is a 1/43 "Ft. Collins" Police Impala which is nice but the NYPD Matchbox version is the best of the bunch in terms of realism.
One of my favorites is a 1/18 scale 1949 Cadillac DeVille Convertible with genuine upholstered leather soft seats and tons of chrome...a gem!
Matt, if you're a very good boy I just might consider sending it to you. I love it too... but I'm thinking you're more of a fan of that type of stuff than I am....
It really is a beautiful box. And the pins are very cool. I'm #38 I believe...
I say, just use your "Best Quess" spelling and leave it at that. A while back I laughed a bunch when someone used the spell check and it rename Teo "Toe" all the way through. ! Ha!
And Matt, I am thinking about it. My hubby thinks they're very cool and we should keep them. I like them too. But I have to admit that I thought about you first thing. It's the type of thing I know you would really enjoy... so it's an idea in my head. If you lived closer I'd trade you for some "professional" free oil changes. That's for sure! :~)!!!!!
Cookie I haven't moved.....Don't see ourselves leaving the Florida sun!
Sounds like your model is almost same as my sons. The details and scale are the same. The steering wheel turns the wheels, the decals are there, etc. Did you notice those tail lights? The 73 malibu is another ringer for the dual round light set up on the back of the new Impala too - just remembered that looking at his model.
Will post this much and come back for more if it takes
Ken
Ken
Cobra
Tpken: Yes I have seen the "Middle East" only Caprice...is gorgeous! I believe the car has a 5.7L Generation III engine, RWD, ABS, Traction control, the works. GM says that this car was developed for the harsh driving conditions on that part of the world. This car is a spin-off of the Australian Holden Caprice which is a sweet full size sedan. Unfortunately the geniouses at GM North America don't think the American public deserves to have these beauties, so unless you move to the Middle East or Australia, you can't have one. Also, the faster and lighter "Commodore" (A.k.a. Cadillac Catera)is sold in Australia with the same 5.7L Engine, 6-speed manual and RWD. A similar spinoff is sold in South Africa under the Chevy Lumina SS moniker.
Hopefully the all new 2005 RWD "Mid-lux" platform Impala, will share some of the goodness its international siblings currently have.
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I hope everyone had a great holiday. I know I enjoyed my 4 day weekend. It's always good to get a break. I got to drive my Impala AS on Christmas day. I sure enjoy the way it rides. I drove my friend in it for the first time since I bought it and he was very impressed. I even let him drive it. He commented on the how nice the ride is. Did anyone else have a hard time getting use to how slow you seemed to be traveling when driving the Impala at 55 mph when you first started driving your new Impala? It seemed like the car was traveling at 35 mph or lower.
May all have a fantastic day and congrats to those of you who got those nice pins! I collect Hot Wheel and Match box cars, too and sports stars starting lineup figures.
1) Standard Impala Logo (Miniature version of the logo installed on the current car's C-Pillars)
2) 1959 Impala logo (Checkered flag and armor flag similar to Corvette's)
3) 1965 Impala Logo
4) 1972 Impala Logo (Just the "Impala" name and a red bowtie)
5) 1996 Impala SS Logo
6) 2000 Impala logo with small blue bowtie (Miniature replica of trunklid logo)
The wooden box display case is absolutely gorgeous (I am no expert on wood types so if anyone cares to describe it in detail..go ahead) it has a big chrome standard Impala logo attached to the exterior lid of the box and at the bottom it has the following wood carved inscription:
"Chevrolet Impala Limited Edition...Commemorative Pin Set....No. 083 of 350".
It also comes with a multiple pane (Folding) cardboard style "Map to the Great American Sedan.....Impala" and it is a guide to the cars that have beared the Impala name since the 1950's to the present.
Really neat "Perk" and in all honesty I wasn't expecting it.
Oh, It also comes with a copy of the 2001 Impala brochure and a Letter from Kurt M. Ritter, Chevrolet Division General Manager.
I haven't seen the Pin set sold anywhere. I just looked at the Chevy Mall.com site and no luck...it seems to be truly unique!
If your Picture and/or quote were used in the 2001 brochure, you will get one of the Impala pin sets.
Enjoy!
I wanna wish everyone a very happy New Year 2001!
But I bet the hubby $100 that it would NOT snow enough to have it cover the ground from now until March... So, if it doesn't snow I get some Moola! if it DOES snow at least I get the chance to try the car out in the slush and mush...
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I was not happy with any of these vehicle sound levels. I read some stuff on the internet (Edmunds.com) that gave me the impression that the Honda CRV was kind of noisy, so I didn't test it. I considered testing a Hyundai Santa Fe, but the dealer was a long way from where I live, and I worried about getting it there for service. I was also put off by the fact that the Santa Fe is quite new, and the most wonderful warranty in the world is still a pain if a lot of things need to be fixed. So... I gave up on getting an SUV in the low $20,000 range, and reverted to sedans. I tested a 2001 Chevy Impala with V6, 85 dB, soft; 2001 Chevy Malibu with V6, 87 dB, soft; a 2001 Honda Accord, 4 cyl, 91 dB, soft; and a 2001 Toyota Camry LE, 4 cyl, 86 dB, soft. I nearly bought the Camry, but the seats were not comfortable for me or for my wife. We didn't realize it until we sat in them for awhile. Also, I had a weird experience in the Camry. At some highway speed (somewhere between 60 and 70 mph) the seat back went into some kind of mechanical oscillation. I noticed the same thing at about half that speed. It wasn't dangerous, but was distracting. Two others that we tested did not have this problem. I was going to get the Malibu, but the Chevy dealer gave me such good terms for the Impala that I decided to take it. It really felt nice to drive.
Other notes: the road clearance on the RAV4 is only 6.7 inches. This is better than a sedan, but less that the 7.5 inches and up that is normal for SUVs. The Honda Accord that I test drove seemed to have a problem with the transmission – it tended to hesitate sometimes. There are a lot of other vehicles that I could have tested and a lot of other things that matter on a vehicle. But after reading a fair amount of stuff on the internet and in Consumer Reports, it seemed like no one was covering the stuff that especially mattered to me, so I decided to share this stuff with you all. Comfort matters a lot to me. Maybe Consumers Reports and some of the others should start systematically reporting noise levels in vehicles at some standard speed, and "bump response". Quantitative measurements of bump response would be helpful, not just "soft" and "stiff". A measure of vibration (say, of an idling engine) would also be good. Help people choose what they want. Some like it fairly stiff to "feel" the road. Maybe some like a fairly noisy engine so they can hear what it's doing. Each to his or her own.
Technical notes: I used the "C weighting" range on the sound level meter (the default when you turn the meter on). This covers the whole bandwidth from 20 Hz to 10,000 Hz. The "A weighting" range only measures sounds from 500 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Switching to the "A" range dropped the sound levels about 10 to 20 dB, depending on the vehicle, indicating that most of the sound noise was below 500 Hz. Human hearing works down to about 20 Hz. Below that, you don't hear with your ears, you feel vibrations with your body. The meter operating in the "C" range does not discriminate low frequency sounds from high frequency sounds. Some of the 4 cylinder engines operate at higher RPM, and this makes the sound level seem more noticeable since your ears are more sensitive there. All vehicles idled at much lower sound levels than those shown, typically at 72-78 dB. I care more about what the sound level is at highway speeds, since that's where it's worse, and that's where I spend more time. Stiff vs soft suspensions were judged subjectively by how it felt when I went over small bumps in the road on the highway. Mostly I was in the vehicle by myself. For the Mazda and Subaru vehicles, my two grown sons and a sales guy were in the vehicle too. This can make the suspension feel softer (with a lot of weight in the vehicle). Note that the decibel (dB) scale is not linear, but logarithmic. This means that a couple of dB difference is very noticeable.
BuzzSawyer
You guys with the pics in the brochure and the pin sets are certainly fortunate. Those will probably be displayed in prominent places and become the focal point of many a conversation - lucky guys and ladies. I'm envious!
Ken
Ken
I'm looking for information concerning the dual catback exhaust that some have installed. What are the specfics?
1. Part numbers?
2. Does it improve performance?
3. Does it add a nice sound, not too loud?
4. Does it effect the warrant?
Cookie, I think you said you wanted see how the traction control and abs work. Trust me, it works great..... and you really don't want to drive in the slop. We are getting another 4 inches today... and I haven't been able to wash the car for three weeks. Salt all over the car, crap packed in the wheel wells, etc.
It should show your build date like "09-00" = September 2000
It's certainly a great car - good looking and very comfortable and well handling, fuel efficient and a good value.
Good luck on your search - I'll be interested to hear what you come up with, particularly if you find a 2000 LS model.
Ken
On another note , I had to use our impala last night , first time in a while , and I Was doing a lot of around town and up the interstate driving , about 75-80 miles , it was cold , and the heater burned me out of the car , so we're really not havng any circulation probs. the brakes felt great , no pulling or squeeling . Got into a little something on the interstate with an [non-permissible content removed] in a new F150 , he kept on riding me in the slow lane going 75 mph , so as soon as the traffic cleared , i kindof left him in a stretch of I-10 , anyway , i was really inpressed with it, not a single disapointment , considering I sortof thrashed it around , it now has 17,600 miles .thanks-------------mattmcdill