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2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala



  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    No matter what you guys think, we usually do make the decisions. Sometimes we'll let you think you've made the decision, but trust me, we made it for you and just wanted you to feel important;)

    Not to get too far off the subject of Impalas but, there is a marketing book called "Megatrends for Women," by the same author of the well known "Megatrends." In it you will find that women make most major household decisions in the family.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    Mothers makes a paint chip smoothing product now, too. I haven't tried it yet. But, would imagine it works quite well, being a Mothers product.
  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    I'll have to check into Langka. If it isn't that easy to use, I'll probably feel better letting someone else handle the touch up, but I'll go to the langka website and see what's up. Honestly, that spot is so tiny, and since it's on the bumper anyway, I probably won't do anything about it. The fact that it's there irks me, but again, I know it's only the beginning of what I can expect living and driving in this wonderul state of inconsiderate drivers.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Posts: 760
    The package and website say that its "so easy a child can do it." A child CAN do it, but to get really good results requires a little more work. What I like about it is that I can take care of chips when I find them, I can do it whenever it is convenient for me, and I am not dependant on someone else's schedule. It's cheap and it really does make the chips disappear. It probably won't work as well on metallic cars just because it's hard to get the metallic flakes to blend in.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Posts: 760
    Hey gary, the Mother's product IS the Langka one. I checked the Mothers website and there is a picture of the package and it says "with Langka technology." That's pretty funny. Wonder how much it costs.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    I just used "Reflections" on the impala. That stuff is hard as heck to get off. I am going back to the Carnuba.
  • hunter39hunter39 Posts: 375
    We've had another police officer killed by exploding fuel tanks on their Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. This is the third one in two years with another horribly disfigured but alive. The govenor has put a hold on all Crown Vic orders from Ford as have most municipalities here. Some Phoenix police officers have turned in their keys and asked for 95' Caprices', one said he'd rather drive a car with an a/c that blows hot than worry about getting home alive. BTW it was 112 degrees here yesterday so not having a/c will make for a very ornery cop I would imagine!

    This brings me to the Impala, they have been saying that there isn't a big RWD alternative to the Crown Vic to go to, or they would be going to it with their new orders. I wonder if GM has been keeping that in mind when designing the new Impala. The Caprice was more prevelant than the Crown Vic until they stopped producing them, now there are few of them left in police fleets. The thing I liked about my Impala was it's size, it's not as big as my Caprice was, but still big enough to make me feel not so invisible, like Copychick was saying about SUV's.

    I'll keep my 2000ls for now but am really looking forward to a beefier version. I spent enough money trying to get more HP out of my LS and it does have a bit more jump than it did when I first got it. I'd like the heavy duty car though as at times it feels "Light". But you know, got to love that fuel mileage.
  • hunter39hunter39 Posts: 375
    I'd advise your hubby against the Jetta, forget about the "chick" car status it has (it does btw)but just look at the problems! Mostly from an electrical standpoint but other problems too. There are not usually alot of options when it comes to dealerships to handle the warranty work that will have to be done when it does break down. It was a deciding factor when my wife was looking for her car. She thought the Jetta was "cute", but it wasn't very practical. The back seat is just big enough for a dog, a small dog. We were seriously considering the Passat but the price got to be out of our range when she didn't like the feel of the standard turbo 1.8 so we had to add the v6. There was less concern about quality with the Passat and it's been the highest rated sedan the past two years but getitng it the way she wanted was going to set us back about 33k and we had only 23k to work with. She settled on the new Altima (his name is "Tim") which I was impressed with but after driving it a few times I'm less impressed with. She likes it though and it's her car so...She had a Saturn as well before a, 93' SL1 and loved it. I didn't like driving it either but it was hers not mine.

    So if you're planning on a family (you didn't say if you had kids or not or if roominess was a factor)I'd stay away from the Jetta (size and quality of build)and get something more practical but still stylish. Ihave no suggestions for him because to me the only real choice would be another Impala! I tried to talk the wife into another one before the Altima but she said it was too big, at 199" the Altima is 1 inch shorter than the Impala. He needs to do more research on that Jetta before he pulls the trigger...
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Actually 191.5" according to Edmunds (and this sounds about right, no way it is only 1" shorter than the fullsize Impala).
  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    Thanks for the Jetta insights. DH is not to be swayed, unfortunately. He knows about some of the problems associated with the Jetta, based on his close friend's experience, but because of the long warranty, is willing to take the risk. As for dealer options, we just found one today that is 10 min from the house, and there are 2 on DH's way home from the office as well, so service shouldn't be an issue. In all fairness, Consumer Reports' 2002 cars issue stated something to the effect that a few of the problems on the Jetta have been addressed more recently. This is going to be one of those situations where my DH will have to learn from his potential mistakes. I have tried unsuccessfully to talk him into a Golf, but he is holding firm.

    As for family size, we only need one big car. We have one daughter (an adorable 8 year old fireball:) and are not planning on expanding our family beyond the possibility of getting a small dog down the road (as long as the cat doesn't mind;) Since our DD was comfortable in the back of a Saturn, I figure she can handle just about anything. She certainly enjoys the spaciousness of the Impala's back seat, and if we go out on long family excursions, the Impala will probably be our car of choice anyway. That's particularly the case if DH leases instead of buying.

    I checked out the Altima and, before I'd heard about the Impala, was convinced that would be my next car. But I wanted a car with the biggest front seat I could find, and the Impala won out based on the amount of hip space it offered.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Well, at 94,000 miles my 2000 LS just got itself some new Dunlop A2 Sport H rated 225/60-16 tires. The ride is much improved, far quieter than the BFGoodrich T/A's had become.

    I guess the next thing to replace is struts. I am holding out to see whether I want a Mazda6 or the supercharged Impala due out about the same time.

    Anyone replace the struts yet? Any advice?
  • rstephrsteph Posts: 109
    As I recall, it was like 2-3 days after we got our 2000 Navy Blue Impala LS that some moron did something to it in a parking lot. Was way down low on the passenger door..two long and deep scratches. (No shopping karts stroller maybe??). Other than the inital PO, it was so low on the door I just "touch up paint"ed it and let it go.
    At around the 6 month anniversary, a drunk nailed the right rear quarter panel at a local casino. Then he took off (hit & run). Unfortunately for him, casino employees on break saw it, knew him (he had hit a $10k jackpot a couple weeks prior) and snitched him off. End result..he got busted..I got my car fixed.
    I'm seeing a lot of Impala's around here (Pacific NW). It's not uncommon to pull up to a traffic light beside/behind/in front of another one. Seems to be about an even mix between LS's and base models...LS's maybe the slight leader. As for "uniqueness"...I don't know, maybe I'm just too blase' about it. Not an issue with me. Besides, it's been my experience that "unique" is just another word for "higher purchase price" and much much "higher repair costs" once off warranty. Jeeeez..I owned a VW Bug back in the days when every 3rd car you saw was a Bug and I was thrilled to death to have one. (Wish I still had that was a kick in the butt..wouldn't trade my LS for it though..haha.)
  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    I bought my first Saturn (SL1) the 2nd year they were on the market. It was definitely "unique" at the time. No one I knew could believe I bought this "novel" new brand. Definitely wasn't a higher purchase price than a lot of what was out there.

    Glad to hear they caught the drunk who hit your car. It's good to hear when justice is done in these cases.

    John, I'll have to keep those Dunlops in mind when my tires finally do need replacing.
  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    And of course he was blown away! We went for a nice ride to a nearby nature reservation in the mountains and it was beautiful, smooth, and a joy to ride in. He also took it out late last night on his own and came back gushing.

    This still hasn't swayed him from the Jetta. He insists the turbo still feels faster than the Impala LS. Funny thing is, he can't afford the turbo and won't even have that kind of power because he will probably have to get a base.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Nooooo! Better off with a Sentra SE-R imho. Nothing good about the motor in the base Jetta.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    The 2.0L Gasoline engine in the Jetta has 2 positives:

    * Good off the line torque (Max torque around 1700 RPM)

    * Very fuel efficient.

    The negatives:

    * Very noisy and coarse sounding under acceleration.

    * runs out of steam in the highway

    * There are still reports around of excessive oil consumption.

    The Jetta 2.0L is great city car, not a very good choice for long highway jaunts.

    Maintenance schedule for this engine only calls for oil changes and tune ups every 5K miles.

    If your hubby still insists in the Jetta, I'll think he will be much happier with the 1.8T model (Turbo) or the 1.9TDI model (Turbodiesel). If course both are a bit more expensive than the 2.0L base versions. He can afford either if he keeps a tab on the options list. Forget leather seats and sunroofs. Get the 1.8T motor instead and so forth...

    The Jetta VR6 (V6) is the most expensive of the bunch but I do not recommend it for 2 reasons: This engine makes the nose of the Jetta too heavy, and reliability of the 2.8L V6 VW engine hasn't been that great either. It requires premium fuel to boot.

    I think the 1.8T also requires premium gasoline but I could be wrong.
    Glad to hear your hubby is warming up to the Impala. Something tells me you are going to end up driving the Jetta...ouch!
  • iexplore2000iexplore2000 Posts: 237
    Hello Everyone!

    Well.. as of yesterday (Saturday, June 22, 2002), I decided to bite the bullet and purchase a 2002 Chevrolet Impala LS sedan. She's beautiful!! After careful deliberation, I decided to go after the Dark Carmine Red Metallic with Neutral Leather interior. She isn't missing a single option! Loaded to the gills.. MSRP of $27,285 before GMS discount & 3.9% @60 mo's!

    Prior to this vehicle, I had a 2002 Pontiac Grand AM GT1 sedan that I just had to get rid of. It was a great car, but I underwent lower back surgery (at a mere 27 y/o) at the beginning of 2002 and once I returned to work and had to be on the road again, I quickly discovered that the firm ride and seats of my Grand AM were a "no go" for me. Since I travel a lot for work, I have a specific "work vehicle" which will now become my 2002 Impala LS sedan.

    In addition to my 2002 Impala, I own a 2002 GMC Envoy SLT that I just love to death. I do not use it for work because with my job, I can accumulate ~ 3,000 miles per month. I do plan on keeping both vehicles "until the tires fall off," and I do believe that the Impala will keep me content along the way. I am an avid poster of the "2002 Envoy, Trailblazer, Bravada" forum and hope to become an active member in this forum as well. If any of you would like to share additional information concerning the Impala's, please feel free (i.e. service concerns, TSB's etc.).

  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345

    By the way, Impala looks the best in the dark red color. Even better than dark-blue, for my tastes.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    I doubt that diesel VW cars are available for tri-state area customers. The Northeast exhaust regulations are almost as strong as the CA ones.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    What a great looking pair of cars you've got there in your driveway! Congrats on the new LS and best wishes for driving enjoyment. I own a 2000 Bonneville SE rather than an Impala LS but love both or your choices. The Envoy is another fantastic vehicle - and what a great opportunity to have both in your yard. Good luck with your back too.

  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    Welcome! Congratulations on your new Impala!

    I just bought mine last week, in part because of back problems with my Saturn SL2, so I completely understand where you're coming from. The Impala is certainly a comfortable ride and has completely transformed my hellish 2-hour roundtrip commute into something almost pleasant.

    Good luck with your new "baby" and I'm looking forward to "seeing you around" here.
  • copychickcopychick Posts: 62
    Well, I finally found a way to talk my DH out of the Jetta (I hope). We bought a dog yesterday! And before I agreed to it, I told him he'd have to get a less expensive car AND wait for his Saturn lease to end (he wanted to do it 2 months early and VW wouldn't have paid off the lease). He agreed!

    So now I'm pushing him either towards a Golf or something else less pricey than a Jetta. He said he might even consider a Cavilier (anyone have experience with these?) I'm thinking the hatchback on the Golf might be a good thing for the dog's crate.

    So thanks all for the Jetta info. Hopefully it helped my campaign to stop this purchase. If not, our new Cairn Terrier has probably done the trick.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    Forget the Cavalier. It is a 20 year old rolling antique of automobile. Lousy crash test results (Check generally a pretty crude car for the money. The Cavalier rides on the "J Body" platform that first debuted in the year 1981. Basically today's Cavalier/Sunfire are barely updated cars (Safetywise) that rides on a basic chassis first designed over 20 years ago. The last "Major" update made to the Cavalier sheetmetal was made in 1995. These cars are pretty old no matter how you look at them. The only positives about them is the addition of the German Opel 2.2L "Ecotec" 4 cylinder engine for brisk take offs, good reliability and fuel economy. Rebates on these things are in the $2500 to $3000 range so, sure they are cheaper than most Euro or Japanese subcompacts and about in the same price level of the Korean makes (Which by the way in despite of their own shortcomings still come ahead of the Cavalier).

    My advice: Stay away from the Cavalier. It is crude, questionnable build quality and very poor crash protection as evidenced by test results.

    Think of the Golf as the "Rolls Royce" of subcompacts. Impeccable fit and finish, excellent build quality/interior materials, excellent brakes, terrific handling, safety and steering response, superb resale value. There is no comparison between a $16K Cavalier and a $16K Golf.

    The Golf is made in Curitiba, Brazil, one of VW's most modern and efficient plants in the world. They also manufacture some Audi models in that plant as well. The Golf has had generally much better reliability than its Mexican made counterpart, the Jetta.

    The Golf is also much more practical than the Jetta sedan. With the back seats up, the Golf gives you 18 Cubic Feet of cargo, while the Jetta gives you 11.5 cubic feet. With the back seats folded, the Golf gives you nearly 30+ Cubic Feet of cargo space, which is excellent for a subcompact car.

    I highly recommend the Golf GL 5-door hatchback. Here is what you get for about $16K haggled price:

    * 6 Airbags (2 front, 2 side mounted in the front seats and 2 side curtain airbags that extend from the A pillar all the way to the side back passengers)

    * AM/FM premium stereo cassette with 8 speakers.

    * 4 speed Automatic transmission

    * Power Locks with Remote Keyless Entry and factory alarm.

    * Manual crank windows and sideview mirrors. (If you have to have power windows, then you have to go up to the Golf GLS model).

    * Tilt/Telescopic steering wheel.

    * 4 Wheel disc brakes with 4 channel ABS, standard.

    * Illuminated door lock switches.

    * Tachometer and digital clock, standard.

    * Front map reading lights.

    * Lap/shoulder belts and headrests in all 5 seating positions. Front pretensioners.

    * Front seats have manual height adjustments.

    * Rear hatch wiper/washer with cargo cover and first aid kit.

    * 15" wheels with covers

    *2.0L 4cylinder 115HP gasoline engine

    *A/C with Micron cabin filter system

    * Day time running lights (DRL)

    * 4 year/50,000 mile warranty with 4 years of 24 hour roadside service included.

    The Golf is a no brainer choice.
  • My 2001 has reached the 30K mile mark. Well a couple od days ago I started getting a popping noise from the left wheel well. Sounds like the CV Joints but I sorta doubt it. The noise is intermittent and you can only hear it when you accelerate from a stand still. Just one pop and you wont hear it till you stop and start again. Well I took the car to the dealer and I'm hoping they find something. They're also doing a 30K mile service which includes Fuel Induction Cleaning, Transmission Flush, Oil, Chassis, tire rotation and balance....$430. I'll let you guys know what came out of that popping problem when I get my car back.


  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    I know you mentioned a dislike of Japanese branded cars, but your loved one may want to consider an Acura RSX. I test drove one, and it's remarkably zippy and relatively low-priced (although not as much so as a Golf.
    Another interesting choice is the Civic coupe. I saw a 2003 model, and it's pretty sharp looking, actually. Not at all the econobox of the past.
    Another choice is the new Corolla Sport. Stylish, and very nice interior.
    Granted, the Corolla and Civic are not powerhouses, but when linked to the 5-speed tranny, they're quite zippy. (I used to have a 94 Corolla.)
    The RSX starts out fast, especially the Type-S. That one kicks booty. None of them are "girly" cars. ;-)
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    The problem with the RSX is that it is basically a 2 seater car. The rear seats are intended to be occupied by Chiuahua dogs, not humans. there is not very substantial leg/foot room for back riders. I would not put my 10 year old child back there, no way.

    The Civic is OK, just another dull Honda product. Nothing special and is as pricey as the VW Golf.

    The new Corolla looks interesting, but haven't been inside one so I can't comment.

    The Golf is a very well engineered small car with the "Euro" prowness in design and performance that no Asian car can't touch, plus gets the utility of a small 4 door sedan with a hatchback design. Unless you are talking Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe or even Subaru Impreza wagon, none of the cars you mentioned offer the flexibility of the Golf. Well may be the (Gasp!) Ford Focus ZX5.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    You haven't seen the NEW Civic, it appears.
    The Matrix and Protege 5 are also interesting. I don't care as much for the looks of the Vibe, but it has an American badge, if that's important to Copychick.

    (I didn't realize the rear seat was so important for both cars, as she already has an Impala. I assumed he wanted something more sporty for himself.)

    I'm not really a big Golf fan, except for the GTI. Actually, I'm not a big VW/Audi fan, in general.
  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    I have seen the new Civic many times. It doesn't impress me. Going by intellect I know it is a very good car. It just doesn't do anything for me. To me it is a refined econobox. The coupe is more agreable than the sedan model from Dullsville. I am sure there are plenty of happy Civic owners to go around. More power to them.

    I quite frankly prefer the new Corolla but it too visually suffers from the new Japanese syndrome of turning sedans into minivan look alikes. I have not been to one, so I can't comment but I suspect it is a cut above the Civic sedan.

    The Protege5 is a nice suggestion. More reliable than the Ford Focus counterparts.

    I think Copychick's husband was going after a smaller 4 door sedan (Jetta) and her suggestion (Or idea) of him getting either a Cavalier or Golf suggests that they still want to have the availability of a four door vehicle, even if her Impala is to be considered the main household car.

    However if he is open to the idea of a small 2 door vehicle, then go with the Mini is a small car with serious performance underpinnings, good headroom all round (But short in trunk space) and has the looks, fit/finish, cool factor and collector car status likehood that only an Asian car can dream of.
  • dmullinsdmullins Posts: 30
    Does anyone have a copy of the coolant recovery TSB? (00-06-02-006)

  • drivinisfundrivinisfun Posts: 372
    Suscribe to Also your dealership should be able to print a copy of any TSB for you. If they give you heck, talk to the service manager.
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