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jim7heaven7 - looking forward to seeing your car pic.
I went on a short test drive a little while ago, and that's the biggest thing
I remember. Did you have the same impression at first? Do they get softer
as they're worn in, or do you just get used to it?
Erik
Thanks for the pic and look forward to the site being up...
I'm looking at an Elantra GT to replace my '99 Maxima SE when the lease is up this April, but I hadn't seen a GT with a spoiler.
Thanks again.
"What did the spoiler cost, if you don't mind me asking."
Not at all. Apparewntly it costs about $450 but the dealer gave it to me for their cost $350. The tinted glass was $100.
My GT was a sort of one-off since I told the salesman that I wanted a manual and ABS and that he should call me when one came in (as he had none with that configuration at the time).
One week later he called to say that it had just come in -- one only like that -- and that he set it aside for me. I went that night, checked it out and finalized the deal. Even got him to throw in a trunk net.
I agree about the spoiler -- totally useless at that size and configuration on a street car. One does not go fast enough and even so, on a front wheel drive car you don't want a significant weight shift aft.
Still it makes the tail end look a bit nicer.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/b15d01e/bc/My+Photo+Album/ElantraGT/__hr_Nov+0010.jpg?bcV0ml8AqKUQXk_1
So, the middle of the URL looks like:
/My%20Photo%20Album/
jim7heaven7: If there are some more pictures from a couple different angles, I'd love to see'em. I will be looking for a red GT, so it's just the right setup. Was this a dealer installed spoiler? Is it a Hyundai "OEM" or another brand (if another brand, which)?
Thanx!
http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/showroom/pg000167.html
http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/showroom/pg000167.html
Well it is the handle for the cruise.. it spins with the wheel and i have found my hand hanging up on it comming out of turns . Has anybody else come across this ?. the way i drive when i come out of a turn i let the wheel slide under my hand until it gets back straight. The handle for the cruise hits my fingers as the wheel spins back to straight . now this might be petty but i am thinking that one of these times it might snap off .
anybody care to comment . it seems to be in the same spot on the gt and the gls .
"the handle for the cruise.. it spins with the wheel and i have found my hand hanging up on it comming out of turns . Has anybody else come across this ?"
I have not had a problem with this because I use either the push-pull method of returning the steering back to centre if the turn is that sharp that the steering wheel is past 90° (rare).
On a separate note -- thanks "rfernatt" for the tip on the URL for the other spoiler, and to "th003g" for the insight on the spoilers. I must have "lucked" out because I am very happy with the spoiler design I have. I will post other pictures from different angles since the one I posted was not spoiler-specific and does not show it the best.
in reference to mrmagoo55 and lestrade1 check out Atlantic Hyundai in LI. I told Brian Cotter my best price over the phone and he beat it. I think I got a good deal on an 01 auto GT with everything for $14.7.
I got my 2002 GT last week and am loving it! It's a Carbon Blue 5spd with ABS, tint and clear mask on the hood (very important in Colorado.) The dealer held me up for $15,400, plus tax @3.75%, but GT's are tough to find around here and the dealers know it.
The only problem I've come across so far has been with the traction control. My driveway's steep and on a tree sheltered north slope, so it stays iced up until May. I was looking forward to assistance from the TCS, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. From a stop, the wheel spin just like the TCS isn't there. Pressing the TCS defeat switch makes no difference. The owner's manual is very vague about exactly how it's supposed to work. I'm about to call the dealer, but I wanted to see if anyone else had any experience with this.
Other than that, I'm absolutely sold on everything about my new car.
Thanks!
"My driveway's steep and on a tree sheltered north slope, so it stays iced up until May. I was looking forward to assistance from the TCS, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. From a stop, the wheel spin just like the TCS isn't there. Pressing the TCS defeat switch makes no difference."
From what I can tell, the traction control system as implemented on the Elantra GT is a combination of engine management and braking control. When the car is being driven in slippery conditions, say on a slick road, the system causes the brakes to be applied to the wheel that is slipping, while the engine is supposed to be throttled back. The engine effect only affects the driving wheels obviously. This all occurs automatically thereby restoring some control (steerability and traction) to the vehicle.
Now in your case, you are trying to either climb up or go down a steep icy driveway. I would doubt that the system would be successful since there is likely no traction in the driving wheels to begin with. All you would likely be doing is spinning your wheels slower. Think about it this way -- TC relies on shifting effort to the wheel with grip and away from the wheels that slip. If one were on a frozen pond lubricated with water, for example, all wheels would slip equally and the TC system would be defeated.
I think that in your situation, you need to salt your driveway and/or use studded tires on your car. :-(
Just my $0.02 ...
thanks
Just under 13,000 miles on the clock and no problems to report. In fact, the car is so good it's staring to feel boring. Gas mileage is down a little due to winter fuel blending but the car runs great.
I can't think of much else to add. We love our GT and we are seeing more on the roads every day.
Happy motoring.
I'll call the dealer today and see what they have to say.
I've put on 450 miles so far, and can't wait to start catching up to you high-mileage guys!
Mark
"I was expecting though, that when I pressed just a little too hard on the way up that the TCS would kick in when the fronts broke loose. But no throttle reduction or brake pulsation is felt."
Okay, I could see that. I would think that it would make some effort to do that as well. I have ABS/TC but here in Houston I have little opportunity to test it in a non-accident situation.
"I'll call the dealer today and see what they have to say."
I'd be interested in what they had to say although I wouldn't hold my breath. :-}
Jim
"I stopped in a frozen parking lot, right in the middle of a patch of ice. I pushed the gas about 1/4 of the way down (alot, because mine is a 1.8T), and the wheels did not spin one time! I took right off on the ice, the engine power was held back, and the car took off rather ferociously when it encountered dry pavement finally. So that makes no sense that the TCS will not pull you up an icy driveway."
I must admit that I was largely theorizing at the other poster's problem. I have not yet had an opportunity to test either the ABS or the TC on my car first hand. This is where I wish I was back home (Canada) for some good ol' snow and ice!
Nevertheless, I belive I said something at the end of the post regarding wet (lubricated) ice defeating the TCS. Cold, dry ice enables some friction / traction -- I know, I have driven in these conditions for a long time. However, when the ice becomes wet, I don't see *any* TC system with regular M+S tires working ... even winter tires would have a hard time.
If you are in a wintry climate at present, I would love to hear how the car made out on pure wet ice.
Thanks
Having to get a hole in the roof to get a basic safety feature like ABS is idiotic, in my
opinion.
Erik
Called the service department at the dealer in Denver where I bought the car three times this afternoon. Nothing but an answering machine each time. Not a good sign. Gave up and called the local dealer. The service manager didn't know much more about the TCS than I do, but he's going to look at my car on Monday. He also recommended an oil change at 500-600 miles, dispite what the manual says about being OK to do the first change at 7,500 miles. Sounds like smart engine insurance to me.
uryourword -
Sorry to hear about the dent, people can be such jerks! I know I'm gonna cry the first time I get smacked. You're right about Audi sheetmetal though. My '95 doesn't have a single door ding, and I'm not picky about where I park it.
I checked out the spoilers at the previously mentioned website for Hyundai, UK. Very classy looking. Went ahead and emailed a dealer in London to see if they would be willing to ship me one. Their paint options are different over there, so I'd have to get it painted here, but boy would it look nice! I'll let you all know how that works out.
"The silver one on this board is actually a factory spoiler for the accent 2 door. I saw two GT's with these spoiler's at the time I went to pick up my mom's GLS."
I just did a bit of searching on the Hyundai USA site and must conclude that my spoiler does not look like the Accent spoiler, nor does it look like the Elantra spoiler. The closest to a match is a Sonata spoiler. Besides, my spoiler was Pewter original paint. Accents don't come in Pewter. Maybe it is a new spoiler for the GT ...
Check this little web page I put together --
http://www.geocities.com/wa_moses/elantra_gt/gt.html
The HDK Autosport site also has lots of spoilers to choose from. The web address is http://www.hdkautosport.com/
"... I was shocked to see my right front fender caved in at dead center. It looks awful, and confirms my suspicion that these Elantras are built with paper thin sheet metal."
No doubt they, like all modern cars, are made with thin sheetmetal. Performance (weight) and cost comes at the cost of sheet gauge.
I got a ding for Christmas. I was Christmas shopping when some &*%&%#%@^ let (what I believe to be a) shopping cart roll into my left front door. There was a ding right on the feature line (hard to fix) and a slight dent in the middle of the door and a dent in the door sill just below the rocker panel.
I got it fixed under insurance but you can still see the slight imperfections. Like "uryourword" I wanted to vomit as well ... then I had some other emotions which made me glad that the person who did it was not around. Now I part far away from other cars, especially so in parking lots with carts. Here in Houston, it must be a law that people leave carts wherever in a parking lot. No wonder they are the fattest people/city in the US. It would strain them to push the cart back to the corral.
Has anybody seen that infomercial on the "Tornado" add on to increase hp and mpg ? I was thinking about ordering one for my new gt and installing it . Do you think it would void any warranty? it looks like it just pops in the air intake . Has anybody used one ?.
It doesn't come cheap cost was $315.00 but no body filler and no painting. I was very pleased.
I am convinced that the black insert molding on the GTs will prevent several dings and scuffs from happening. Not exactly a Saturn's plastic side panels but better than exposed paint waiting to get scraped.
"Even going around 25, had to stop hard to avoid a car that slid off the side of the road and was sticking out around a curve. Hit the brakes by instinct and the computer did the rest to keep it going straight and stop the car."
Thanks for the post, mpgman. Just what I was hoping to read here, since I can't really test the TC and ABS on my car.
So, I take it you were in a gentle curve when you saw the car sticking out and you hit the brakes? If so then it is the same situation as in the brochure. Good to hear that the TC system works as it should, making the car safer for precisely those situations.
The K&N filter, on the other hand, seems like a great product. I have been meaning to try it for years but somehow never got around to it. Thanks to "5port" I will give it a try. The trick is trying to locate it in my neck of the woods in NW Houston. I am also excited at 5port's results, although the GT does like to take off after 4000 rpm anyway.
In all fairness to the dealer, they didn't have any slippery surface to physically test the car on. My 400' driveway is probably the only icy spot in the county right now. The car makes it to the top, TCS or not, so I'll probably just let it go as is.
Other than that, my blue GT has been absolutely perfect (except for that common fuel filler door issue) and I've only got another 450 miles till she's all broken in and ready to fly.
No response yet from the dealer in London to my emailed inquiry about the availability of the euro-spec spoiler.
Thanks to all.
That being said, regular maintenance services at the Hyundai dealer tend to be pretty reasonable. The Edmund's long term tests of the Elantra mention dealer oil changes costing $21-22. My dealer charges $26, but that's still in line with the fast lube places. Compare that to my local Audi dealer (owned by the same people as the Hyundai dealer) who used to send me "Special Offers" in the mail to have my Audi's oil changed for "only" $54.99! (I changed my own, thanks.)
"Looking down the road a bit, what does Hyuundai require if you need warranty service? Do you have to have the vehicle services at the recommended intervals in the owner's manual at the dealer at their $80/hr cost? If this is the case it gets expensive."
This is the first "US" Hyundai I have owned. I have had 3 "Canadian" Hyundais in the past. Hyundai USA and Hyundai Canada are two different subsidiaries and may behave differently.
Having said that, I was told by my dealer here that provided I did the proper maintenance and had receipts to show that it was done, then the warranty was not affected. Naturally for an oil change, one could do that oneself and be trusted to do so competently. However, I would suspect that should there be a more complicated maintenance item which one did oneself and one was not a licenced mechanic, and should that maintenance issue lead to a failure of a part, then Hyundai might have a problem.
Another point to note -- dealers have some / a fair bit of latitude in deciding how hard to press for maintenance being done prior to honouring a warranty. After all, they get reimbursed by Hyundai for any warranty work that they do, so it is no skin off their noses. As a matter of fact, it is in their interest to do as much work under warranty as possible, thereby creating a customer for life.
In my experience with my previous Hyundais (and I am a pretty picky customer!) the dealer got to know me pretty well, they knew that I cared for my vehicle and did regular oil changes etc. and they did the other stuff. They never asked a question when time came to change anything under warranty. That is why I keep buying Hyundais -- for their good warranties, among other things.
I've had my blue 5-sp for exactly 1-mo today and I've got 1233 miles on it. I'm getting 25-28 mpg city and 35-38 hwy. That will go down now because I'm past 1200 miles and will be going over 4k rpm from time to time. YIPEE!
I saw another GT on the road this morning - the only one I've seen yet! It was red and I must say it looked pretty sharp.
Enjoy the ride folks!
Jacky
I will continue to check in to see how fellow GT owners are doing w their cars.
A quick question" is there any differences between the 01 and 02's. The one I have has the sports suspension, roof, abs options. thanks
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