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The exhaust is probably 400 series stainless, which WILL rust, unlike the 300 series stainless Borla uses (and is much more expensive).
GAM
i have put 20" wheels on the truck and it seems to skip over potholes pretty bad and the truck has even more rattles than before! anyone share the same problems. i think its a combination of the spare tire and the front brake pads causing the rattles and squeeks.
thanks don
Gee, what size tires you using? I bet they are something with a 35 or 40 series aspect ratio (275/40-20 or something). These trucks are NOT designed for these wheels. The short sidewalls are extremely stiff compared to the standard tire and will not flex over bumps and potholes. They may look good, but they ride like crap. And just wait until it rains or snows, things will get worse! Get used to it or go back to the standard tires.
GAM
i still need help with my front seat covers and the rattles from the spare tire. as far as i know the spare has never been out of the car but it makes a huge amount of noise over all bumps with either set of tires on the truck!!!.
28,100 list
2,002 rebate
3,999 dealer discount
22,101 out the door before tax/title/tag
I think I did fine. A good truck so far.
Re the spare- are you sure the rattle is coming from there? Take down the spare and put it aside, then test drive it to check and see if that's what you are hearing. Noise sources can really trick you. Besides, you ought to take down the spare at least once a year to make sure it has air in it and that it is secure. I like to keep mine a little overinflated maybe 38-40 lbs just to be sure there will be air in it if I need it. Wash the dirt and road grime off of the spare too while you have it down.
If your Envoy ride is really that harsh with noise and rattles even with the stock tires, how much air pressure are you running in those tires? The vast majority of owners seem to report the ride quality is very good, and overall a quiet interior noise level except for some usual wind noise. My 1 1/2 year old TB is still very tight and rattle free so far.
The HIDs cost about $550. My brother and I did the install. They needed a little custom fitting but were well worth it. Driving my wife's car now with the PIAA bulbs, after driving my Envoy, is like driving without headlights.
Don, I've got the 275/45-20's on mine and it rides smoothly (the only real difference I can tell is that it takes longer to stop and the brakes feel weaker).
thanks
Don't know about the rain but even if the SES light went out they will still be able to retrieve the trouble code and find out what set it off.
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It takes several key cycles to clear.
Anyone have any secrets or trick they care to share???
I must have more lotions, cleaners, waxes, polishes at this time then my 18 yr old daughter has girly stuff for herself.
Just today I picked up the newest Meguiar's "Gold Class". Plan to try it out on my Black Passat tomorrow
Check out Store Bought Waxes Part II (No Zaino Posts) for lots of ideas and tips. You may want to check out Zaino Car Polishes/Products--Your Experiences (Part 2) but consider yourself warned :-)
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Thanks,
Todd
But for your info (All in $CA (.73 $US):
MSRP: $42,200 (LS 4x4 with 1SB)
Paid: $38,100
Included: $1,200 in accessories including sidestep, mud guard, hood protector, all weather mats, wind visor, trunk tray, brake controller...
I think I did well. The dealer told me he would be at X below GM offer, and he called me three times to tell me my price dropped while I was waiting for the vehicle to arrive.
I have to confess that it was a demo with 2k miles on it, but man what a deal.
my seats are cloth and the front buckets when i look underneath the seat covers have a plastic clip on the front and console side on both covers. both seat bottoms can be lifted off the seat frame except for the side where the power controls are. HELP. the seat frame doesn't look like there is a place to attach these covers.
the answer to the air pressure is 32lbs. in the 275/45/20's and i did notice the cars brakes do feel weaker and will probably upgrade the brake pads to a carbon fiber blended pad to increase braking feel and shorten the stopping distance. i put rotax gold pads on my ml320 truck and the brake dust was eliminated almost totally and the brakes feel 100% better. anybody take there rotors off yet, and if so was it easy?
i'm running the american racing torq-thrusts II's, they look great, now i have to paint my brake calipers as you can see them clearly all the time. bought the brake paint already, have 20,000 miles on it and will wait for my first brake job to paint them.
thanks again for a great resource,
don
1. Rear Tailgate Seal -- The seal located at the top left-hand side (near roof rack) is exposed. Will not adhere to vehicle.
2. Button Flaking -- The following buttons have been flaking/peeling off since the 20K range:
• Steering Wheel: Fan Up/Down (1 Total)
• Radio: Seek/Scan, 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, AM/FM – CD/AUX, Auto Eq. – Auto Vol., Load/CD (7 Total)
• HVAC Unit: Fan Up/Down, OFF, Front Defrost, Face Plate (4 Total)
3. Driver’s Side Door -- Door handle trim piece keeps pulling away from the door panel as if clips are bad (this piece also houses the memory buttons).
4. Rear Console Cupholder Tray -– Cupholder tray will not close without extreme force.
5. Rear Wiper Washer – Unit will not contact with glass or retract to it’s normal resting place when not operational. Replaced wiper blade and this did not correct problem at hand.
6. ON-STAR – Antenna is loose
7. Steering Rubbing Noise – With the steering wheel in a full left/right lock position, upon acceleration, you will hear a rubbing noise outside near engine compartment. This happens when making a left or right-hand turns with steering wheel turned as close to the lock position as possible (i.e. maneuvering into a parking spot).
8. HVAC – Erratic operation and incorrect external temperature displayed quite often (There was a TSB issued for the HVAC update, but do not know the bulletin # off hand). Usually the temperature will correct itself within 30 minutes or upon restarting vehicle.
9. Rear HVAC Controls – Air will only blow towards the floor. No matter which position the control is in, the unit will only blow air towards the floor of the vehicle.
The Following Items Have Applicable TSB’s or SERVICE BULLETINS (ALL ATTACHED)
10. Wandering Power Mirrors (SEE ATTACHED TSB – Uncommanded Movement of Outside Rearview Mirrors #02-08-64-008) – Vehicle suffers from the wandering driver/passenger mirrors whenever utilizing memory options via DIC or reverse tilting mirrors. The mirrors will NEVER return to their original position.
11. Rear License Plate Gasket (SEE ATTACHED TSB – Paint Rub Through on Liftgate around Edge of License Plate Housing/Pocking (install insulating seal/gasket) #02-08-66-004) – Paint has already been worn off from the expansion/contraction of the license plate housing. The gasket will prevent further damage and muffle the cracking noise of the expansion/contraction.
12. Delayed Transmission Downshift and Fan Roar (SEE ATTACHED TSB -- #01-06-04-052) -- On occasion, upon initial daily starting, vehicle will ROAR upon acceleration and respond as if the engine power is being drained out of the vehicle. The noise will quell after approximately 1 or 2 minutes and the engine power comes back to the vehicle.
13. Product Safety RECALL – Transmission Case Reprogram (SEE ATTACHED BULLETIN #01064A) -- Vehicle has on occasion AUTOMATICALLY engaged into 4wd mode with the switch being in the 2wd position. Please investigate.
OH... last but not least, they performed the recall on the instrument cluster so now the gages appear to work correctly!
Thanks!
IExplore2000
Over a year ago, there were numerous A/C complaint postings from late spring throughout the summer of 2002. I experienced the same issue with the intermittent A/C on my 2002 Envoy along with several others last year. We kept in contact with each other and I think that no one officially had the issue resolved, but we were told that GM was aware of this issue and had been working on a possible fix.
To gain better insight as to what might have been done to correct the problem, use the search feature and sift through any and all articles covering the Spring/Summer 2002. There should be an abundance of information out there to assist.
Good Luck!
IExplore
Have anyone been able to successfully install the 2002 Electrochromatic Outside Dimming mirror on their 2003 Envoy SLT's? This is definitely one feature that I DO miss and want to make the swap if GM kept all of the necessary wiring in place to make the swapping of mirrors possible on the 2003 models? FYI.. I called the local GM parts department and it appears that the dimming outside mirror costs ~ $420! Luckily I can get it for 1/2 the cost since my dad is a GM employee.
Second, I REALLY miss the articulating headrest that my 2002 Envoy had. I already figured out that in order to remove the headrest, you simply use a paper clip (or another pointy object) and push it into the little hole thingee on the headrest. I guess that releases the retaining feature, so you simply push on the release button and pull up the headrest until it comes out of the housing. Once I had the headrest in my hand, I flipped it over and tried to discover how you would remove the headrest cover. It looks like some sort of tongue and grove system, but I was too afraid to mess with it so I did not. Does anyone have instructions on how to remove the headrest cover in the event that it should have to be replaced? According to the GM parts department, the articulating headrest cost ~ $84 a piece, but I automatically assumed that you would only get the metal post and the foam padding and NOT the actual cover itself.
Any insight that you all could provide would be greatly appreciated. Also, as a side note, I guess GM discontinued the articulating headrest feature around the mid 2003 model year? I noticed that the dealership where I had purchased my Envoy had a demo 2003 Envoy SLT on the showroom floor that had a build date of 8/02 on the door. Just for piece of mind, I checked the headrest and with a good TUG, it moved forward! Hmm... I should have asked them to swap headrest since the vehicle's had the same color interior? Oh well.. Maybe they will let me swap?? Ha, ha..
Thanks everyone!
IExplore2000
Articulating headrest? You can adjust it front to back? Not on my 2003 Envoy.. didn't know 2002's had them. The service manual section regarding removing the headrest cover: "1. Remove the front seat head restraint. 2. Release the J-strips on the bottom of the head restraint cover. 3. Remove the cover from the head restraint." Looks like the J-strips are the plastic strips you describe (grove).
The service manual shows the plastic clips (they call them J-strips) and show that they clip to the metal on the seat frame itself. I could scan the picture from the manual if you'd like it e-mailed to you.
That certainly is a long list Explore2000! It will be interesting to see how Richs is. Please someone tell me where to get the TSB,s again. This posts on the failing instrument cluster concerns me. My dealer would have fixed your whole list, given me a comparable rental and phoned me regularly with updates! Then two days after I pick it up a faxed letter and a phone call to make sure I was a happy camper...(are you going to be sick yet)
The cup holder can be replaced without removing the console. My daughter kicked it shut and broke it..normal wear and tear I guess.
The dimming mirrors are better for hiway travel but I turn them off at times for city travel. The housing on the right mirror also separated. It does not like my daughter swinging from it..also wear and tear
My fan roar went away with time. After the PCM update recently it comes back now on occasion.
They replaced the transfer case...I had minor frontend "shimmy"
Oh and buy the way, my AC belts out so much cold air I,m going to try making ice cubes on the dash.
Next week i,m going to be travelling in the Canadian rockys....but in a Xterra. Ill bet that will leave me wanting more.
Thanks a bunch for responding! That would be GREAT if you could scan a copy of the procedure and illustrations to send via e-mail to me. By any means, I am not an automobile technical person, therefore I think the illustrations would help me so that I don't break the headrest cover. You can send those directions to: living4goodlife@aol.com
Also, does your service manual indicate any information related to installing the dimming outside mirror? More specifically, does the illustration show or give any possible indication that it would work with the dimming mirrors?
Thanks!
IExplore2000
The problem listed was not with any hands on the A/C button. By default, if you leave the A/C on when you shut the vehicle off, on startup it will be on as well.
This is an undocumented feature on GM vehicles lately. (Silverado, Taho and Trailblazer tested so far.)
I posted this problem in the fall of 2001. They finally got it!!
Ah, the power of the internet.
Frank
The sensor is the little clear plastic canistor mounted on the side of the oem air intake duct, it indicates filter life by monitoring how much air is passing through filter. The AirMax system replaces it so it is no problem using the rubber grommet it slides into. I Have an '02 GMC Envoy so I am not sure the '03's have this sensor. Also, the rubber grommet on my sensor was just pushed into the oem duct, no glue.
Hope this helps!
I have an 03 TrailBlazer LT and I am looking to add a few accessories. First, i am looking for window visors. I realize that Vent Visor is the industry standard. The thing that I don't like about them is the fact that they tape to the outside of the windows. I think it looks unfinished. I am looking for a set that uses some sort of clips in the window channel. Does anyone here have these? I think Wade makes a set. Any opinions? Do they shift a lot? I am worried they may rub through the paint if they do. Next is a bug deflector. Anyone here using one? I am looking for a no drill installation. The tape wouls be acceptable here, but i would prefer something that snaps in somehow. I also am looking for one that doesn't use the rubber bumpers on the hood. Then I am looking for molded mud flaps. I realize that GM accessories is probably the best bet. Do these flaps that they sell require drilling? How do they install? Lastly, I am looking into a remote starter. Anyone here using a Ultra Start? The guy in my area that seems to be the most knowledgable sells these. I am looking to hear from anyone that has one. He wants $280 installed and that includes interfacing with the factory security system and keyless entry. The price seems OK and he seems to know what he's talking about, but I would love to hear from anyone that has one and what they like and dislike about it. Sorry for the ling winded post guys, but you are all as into your rides as I am into mine and a little research goes a long way. I would love to hear from anyone that has any input on any of these items. First hand experience is always best, but anything anyone has to add will be graetly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Todd
Working in the industry back in the early 90's I saw hundreds of Quad 4's come back each month at our dealerships alone. So many at times, we had to turn them away.
This is a major notice and IMO, a Major Warning sign that when hits the Market....will probably impact the triplets resale value. Quad 4's became known as a major engine to avoid. It wasn't until 1996 that GM redesigned the head completely and removed the Quad 4 name.
thanks,
don
Frank
Thanks,
Todd
Installation takes approx 5 minutes and the deflector works well.
I bought it mainly to protect the front paint from stone chips, and so far after 13K not a chip in sight. IMO it gives a nice look to the front as well