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"Warranty Gold" Claims
Are Extended Warranties Warranted? (Smart Money)
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St. Petersburg Times
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In fact, from reading posts from dealers around Town Hall, it sounds like most lemon lawyers do this instead of filing under a lemon law statute.
Steve, Host
ANYWAY, i got my '02 lt. pewter metallic TB LT back in july '01. it served me well for 2 yrs. the last year my baby was under the care of my family cuz i was away in Iraq. But as i came home it was crunch time to make a decision on keepin my '02 or springin for a new one. well, i bid farewell to my '02 and it's problems and said hello to my shiny new '04 dk. grey metallic TB LT. My previous truck was the base LT. This one has the DIC and automatic climate control, no moonroof =( (ill live).
I've noticed subtle alterations in the truck ... probly to reduce overall manufac. costs. things such as no plastic cowl over the headlights. or door hinges that used to painted black that are now unpainted steel (leaving them prone to rust i think) no glove box, engine bay and driver side foot area light. just little things they took way made me feel like i was taking a slight step down in build quality. the first year models had their share of problems, but they did really pay attention to detail (very little things). i guess as the years progressed, they may have ironed out some of the first year kinks but also cut back on the little details that made you feel like you were riding in a QUALITY vehicle. I really dont see any REAL improvements in the '04s, somewhat dissapointed. But i do LOVE the new color. it has a purple hue at one angle and green hue at another, a real interesting color. My uncle has the '02 dk. grey envoy SLT, and the color is definatly different. I did however get a glimse @ some of the '05 LS models. they do look pretty slick. white face gauges, chrome accents on int. door handles and shift nobs. looked a lil more like the Envoy than a TB. I always liked the ruggedness of the TB. They apparently dropped the lt. pewter metallic paint (which i did really like)for the silver, the '05 seems to have a darker silver which looks pretty good too.
even tho the subject of leather vs. cloth has been beaten to death, i opted for cloth. Because i use Neoprene seat covers from Wet Okole. They are HANDS DOWN the BEST seat option for me cuz i sweat like a mofo on leather seats.. hey ross1962, i dunno if u wear a wet suit when you go surfin, but these are like wet suits for ur seats. waterproofed too. might wanna check em out. i go snowboarding, camping, hiking, all that outdoor stuff. they're great when ur caught in the rain, or when ur digs are soaked from sittin on ur posterior in the snow cuz u waitin for ur friends to get down the mt.. Plus, they look really nice too. i've gotten LOTS of compliments and inquiries bout them. true u cant just WIPE them down after they get dirty, but i like to wash them every now and then to keep em lookin and smellin clean. they fit like they came from the factory. along with sum rubber floor mats from weathertech, slap on a set of ventvisors and molded mud guards, they make a GREAT all-weather package.
I also got the 17" LTZ rims for my '02 LT which i kept after i turned her in, and when i got my '04 i had to take the new 17"s off. they look bad. they make the truck look less sturdy compared to the older LTZ 17"s, but just my outlook. i noticed they dont use BFG open trails anymore, rather they use some cheapo lookin continentals that have treads that look like they belong on a sedan. im lookin to replace OE tires that come one the 17" LTZ rims. I REALLY like the Bridgestone Dueler A/T REVOs, tirerack dot com has some of the HIGHEST reviews i've seen on any tire, they look MEAN as hell too. but they dont have the OE size of 245/65/17, rather the closest 17 they have is 265/70/17, does n e 1 know if these will fit the 17x7 LTZ rims? how much will this effect ride stability? any help on this would be a HUGE relief, no one i call seem to be able to help me with this issue.
I had the Manik front bar, nerf pipes and tail light guards that ALL went back to Manik so i can get new replacements cuz they got rusty on me, so i got brand new pipes ALL around. YAY MANIK. Piaa sent me a new set of 520s due to rust as well, YAY PIAA. waitin on gettin the front windows tinted, and my viper auto start alarm re-installed. My Yak, roof rack will go back up in the winter, when the snowboarding season starts. i have a bike rack too, but my mt. bike is critically wounded from a mishap @ mt. creek a few months back. but i was able to walk away from it with just a teeny scrape on my elbow. i like to take this opportunity to thank budda, god, allah, gilgamesh and who ever else is up there for that.
I'll try to post some pics of my new turck over @ sounddomain dot com. when i have the tints done. im thinkin bout stereo stuff. but i think i might have to wait till after my 2nd deployment. duty calls so i might have to abandon my baby for another year. this time i mean my girlfriend. hehe.
all in all i guess you can pin me as one of the more satisfied owners of a TB. i was seriously considering a subaru impreza wrx sti, i even took one for a 24hr test drive, MAN ALIVE does that thing WANT to haul [non-permissible content removed]. my brother had a 5-speed wrx, but the STI has NO equal for its price. but after much deliberation with my GF, the SUV was more practical for me. she said i looked dinky in a compact car like the STI, just not me. sure the TB has been plauged by its problems since day 1, the interior is ugly like a mule (sorry, i dont mean to offend mules, they have feelings too) and material qualities are like that of a cheap chinese knockoff (sorry to the chinese), but through its faults, its still a great truck and it looks strong like bull, and there isnt ANYTHING out there that i loved as much as the TB.
sorry i kept it long, just wanted to rant.
Dear GMC Customer:
As the owner of a 2002 - 2004 model year GMC Envoy or Envoy XL vehicle, your satisfaction with our product is very important to us. This letter is intended to make you aware that some of these vehicles may have a condition where the tail lamp/stop lamp(s) may become inoperative.
This is not a recall. Do not take your vehicle to your dealer as a result of this letter unless you have a tail/stop lamp that is burned out.
What We Have Done:
General Motors is providing owners with additional protection for the tail lamp/stop lamps. If this condition occurs on your 2002 – 2004 model year GMC Envoy or Envoy XL vehicle within 6 years of the date your vehicle was originally placed in service or 72,000 miles, whichever occurs first, the condition will be repaired for you at no charge.
What You Should Do: Repairs and adjustments qualifying under this special coverage must be performed by a General Motors dealer. You may want to call the service department at your dealer to find out how long they will need to have your vehicle so that you may schedule the appointment at a time that is convenient for you. This will also allow your dealer to order parts if they are not already in stock. Keep this letter with your other important glove box literature for future reference.
Reimbursement: The enclosed form explains what reimbursement is available and how to request reimbursement if you have paid for repairs for the special policy condition.
If you have any questions or need any assistance, just contact your dealer or the GMC Customer Assistance Center at 1-866-996-9463.
Hey zach, the manual will tell you how to reset the light. it's somewhere along the lines of turning the key to the on position and depressing and releasing the break 5 times within a certain time period. i always do my oil change. and i have to reset it, but i have to look it up in the manual everytime. maybe i should write it down ..... hmmm. later all.
1. Turn the ignition to RUN with the engine off.
2. Fully press and release the accelerator pedal three times within five seconds.
If the CHANGE ENG OIL light goes out after the reset procedure and does not return after the next ignition cycle, then the system has been reset.
If the vehicle is equipped with a Driver Information Center (DIC), then reset confirmation can also be done by verifying that the Engine Oil Life percentage value has reset to 100%.
Regarding resetting a service engine light, first you need to find out why it came on by checking for any stored trouble code, then you can use the same scan tool you read the code with to reset it.
I must admit at first I did not believe that article link posted. But I checked and discovered the following per A.M. Best news:
3/7/03 - downgraded from A- to B++
5/23/03- downgraded to B
6/03- downgraded to C- and then insolvency and liquidation declared.
Wow! Very unusual a company will go under this quickly. I know this is not the proper forum to keep discussing, but I am amazed at the speed. Something major was off.
Thanks again for that information.
Steve, Host
After I try the "Turn the ignition to RUN with the engine off & Fully press and release the accelerator pedal three times within five seconds" method a few times unsuccessfully, I get frustrated and quit trying.
Dean
Try pressing the pedal to the floor three times, and pausing about 1 sec in between. Have heard that if you do it too fast it won't reset. Never had a problem getting mine to reset that way.
I am taking my 2002 Trailblazer in for a 58,000 mile service. Most of the items are "inspect" this and that. Does anyone know if there are any items that shoudl be replaced at this interval? ( Tranny fluid, coolant, etc). I drive 65 miles a day all highway so I think I'm ok but wanted to check.
Many thanks.
Everything is still tight, quiet, and solid. I really enjoy driving the truck. Had the usual list of items replaced under warranty and the re-engineered parts have not needed replacing.
Someone once asked on this board if the triplets were jam or jelly. Well they both seem kind of "soft" to me but I would say the truck will hold its own and provide a long life if maintained.
While some have criticized GMC for its branding of "Professional Grade Engineering", I think it suites the features (i. e. ECAS, etc.) in my XL SLT and I identify with the branding personally. I think the Envoy is a great looking vehicle that gets lots of attention from other drivers which makes me feel good too. The Bose rocks and more and more stations are sending RDS signals which enhance the listening experience.
Now if I could get the car porter at the dealership to take the parking brake off before driving away. . .
Chris
#15081 of 15181 TACH NOISE by previousamigo Aug 19, 2004 (4:29 pm)
I had the tach noise and thought the dealer would replace the entire instrument panel. They fixed and said it was just one small part. I haven't heard the noise since the fix 6 months ago
Hi all, sorry to repeat my request but I'm going in Fri for an oil change and I'd like to get my tach noise fixed. Does anyone know what part replacement fixes this problem?
Thanks much -
http://www.pbase.com/pdqgp/my_cars
but according to the message at the bottom of this page he no longer has the TB info.
Ray
Can't complain about the fuel economy I get with my truck..never expected it have the fuel economy of a Cavalier or Civic.
The service guy said there was just one small part to replace but the invoice states:
"install sop instr.cluster - (tech 2310)
cause: failed
N4180 cluster assembly, instrument panel R&R or replace
2310 WC
FC: 6C part #: count: 0"
The new baffel design is more molded and shaped as where the old design is just a flat piece.
"customer states the baffle on the passenger side door loose
install sop
cause: loose
B0764 sheild and/or liner front wheelhouse panel right replace
59 wc
1 15173519 seal
fc: 2W
Part#: 15173519 count: 1
17431 retaining clip on seal is deformed #59 removed right front splash gaurd and inner fender to gain access to and replace seal between back of inner fender and body at front of drivers door opening
While I'm here, anyone notice a shudder or bad gear change (not smooth) when when the automatic transmission goes from 1st to 2nd gear? I don't feel this with any other gear change and I don't feel this if I'm really heavy on the gas pedal.
Chris