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Good luck with your Envoy.
John
Since then I've installed the K&N intake.
1 Wind noise coming from doors top back right area
2 Tranny is very clunky. Clucks at D/S from first to second often.
3 Heat blows cool air from vent sometimes.
4 Slow as hell from the hole shot.
5 Tranny vibrated big time on steep hill the other day
It's for sale if anyone wants an '02 4x4 Pewter Lt with 31K
tidester, host
Jan 19 will be my 1st anniversary of ownership of my TrailBlazer and ONCE the air bag light stayed on after I started the engine. I shut it off, restarted and everything has been normal since. That's been about 9 months ago. Just had to re-boot the computer.
The air cleaner on mine never had time to accumulate much dirt before I replaced it with the K&N, but a good rule of thumb is to check it every 15K miles.
I've never experienced any of the electrical gremlins *knock on plood*, but the vast majority of users here report that any electrical problems will disappear when you shut the ignition off and turn it back on.
Again, these are just my experiences, but I prefer to be overkill, especially with the performance of the first maintenence items after the vehicle leaves the factory. I plan on dropping my tranny pan fairly soon and putting Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF in there as well, even if it only gets an optimistic 80% of the old fluid out. I look at it this way, I must be doing something right. I've had 2 vehicles that I've kept long term and both vehicles went over 200K miles before I got rid of them (one was still running good, the other had a cylinder head leak that froze one of the pistons) and I now have another veicle that has over 150K on it now, all with no major non-maintenence service! Not to say you can't have problems even when you keep up with preventive maintenence, but in the big picture things will work out better for you.
wife started it to let warm up went outside to
leave for work, air bag light was on scared her.
She did not shut off and restart, however as soon
as she took off out the drive, it went out as she
started moving. I thought was just a glitch about
200 miles on it. It has not repeated again, will
keep posted so far no other problems, both of us
love the vehicle.
Neoutdoorsman
Envoy SLE, 39000 mi, 3:42 gears, had a few minor warranty fixes and learning a lot from the posts.
Excellent truck, getting 22+ mpg on summer trips fully loaded w/air and 75-80mph interstate. Pulls my 3600lb boat with ease but not as good gas mileage.
Just curious if anyone replaced their windshield and what it cost?
Before you replace the windshield, check with your insurance company. Mine will pay a company to fill the chips with no charge to me, regardless of one's deductible. (You can even choose the company). I have had 3 chips filled on 2 vehicles (not my Envoy, but previously). None of them have spread. You want to do it before it gets too big though. If your insurance company does the same as mine, it can't hurt to try first, especially if your deductible is high. The companies usually bill the insurance company directly, around $50 for one chip, a reduced price for two, etc. You'll still see some visible evidence of the chip, but if it's not interfering with your vision, it may not be a big deal. I know it's a pain to have that happen to a new vehicle though. Good luck!
I have a '03 Bravada and have searched high and low for after market wheels to fit with limited success. I'm interested in a classic wheel with a traditional lip ie: Boyd's or Eagle Alloys and with the exception of the Boyd's which are over priced I can not find anything.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Previously they replaced the PCM (2 days) and throttle body (12 days) without correcting the problem.
Practically all insurance companies waive your deductible for the windshield repair so there's no out of pocket expense to you, and the glass shops/repair centers do all the paperwork for you too...
The number 4 is a vehicle class.
Apparently all GM vehicle have been classified into these groups. Then they use this to locate the cost of the Ext warranty based on the years, deductable and miles you want. One chart for pricing and another chart for vehicle classification.
I concluded the Acura MDX was the best overall mid-size SUV. But, similarly equipped, it lists for thousands more than the Bravada and the dealers won't deal. The Pilot is just a poor man's Bravada, so it may be worth a look. But, I think a Pilot loaded equal to a Bravada would list for as much and once again the dealers won't deal.
I drove the Highlander through a test track right after the Bravada. It is a nice SUV with competent performance, but it is noticeably smaller inside, not as responsive through a slalom course (slow steering response, lack of power, mushy brakes), and pretty boring in the looks department.
The new 4Runner wasn't out when I looked at SUVs, but I eliminated the old one for being under-powered, cramped inside, top heavy, w/ an enormous step height. The new one will need a lot of fixes to make it competitive w/ the triplets and probably won't compete w/ purchase prices.
Finally, I chose the Bravada over the Envoy and Trailblazer based on looks, AWD, and my perception that the luxury class triplet would probably be the quietest and smoothest of the 3. The AWD is nice unless you do serious 4-wheeling (I don't) and it really isn't exactly the same system as the FT4WD setting in an Envoy or Trailblazer. BTW, you do give up some small stuff w/ an '03 versus an '02, but you gain some peace of mind that most of the bugs have been corrected and you get re-designed piston heads and 5 more hp in the best damn engine GM has produced since the 327 CID V8.
As an over-the-hill mechanical engineer, I've always been most impressed when you can get a lot out of a little machine w/o it self-destructing in the process. Thus, the high-winding, powerful, but smooth 327 really was impressive. This new I4.2 is like that. Smooth , quick wind, butt-in-the-seat power, but it doesn't rattle and shake in the process. Just a preference I guess.
Keep us posted on the stalling/near stalls at traffic lights. Mine has been doing it (only when cold) and I have been noticing it has been occuring when engine temp is about 180 (first major mark on the guage).
Mine has not stalled yet but yesterday morning I wiached the RPM's drop all the way down to 100 (not a typo) before the engine recovered. It has be a progressive problem, with the revs getting lower and lower each time, which leads me to believe that it is a calibration/software or mechanical issue, and not a control module issue.
I am dropping it off at the dealer tonight and the low is supposed to be around 30, so conditions should be right, plus I am going to leave specific instructions for them to go through in the morning.
I will keep you posted and wish me luck.
JAW
My dealer is recommending that the fuel filter be replaced twice as often as GM says at every 15,000 miles. They say they are seeing early fuel pump failures with large GM vehicles that use more fuel. Yes, I know they are selling more filters that way.
"New Calibration to improve feel of 1-2 upshift" Part# 12579255
TSB 02-08-49-009: "Interference with Center Console Auxillary Power Outlet Cover and Rear Seat Cushion"
Let us know how the new calibrations work out!
"LOS ANGELES - A group hoping to lessen U.S. reliance on foreign oil on Wednesday debuted two television ads that link gas-guzzling sport utility vehicles to terrorist funding.
The ads mimic spots that link drug money to terrorism.
One commercial features a child's voiceover and shows a man filling his gas tank and footage of terrorist training. The closing statement: "Oil money supports some terrible things. What kind of mileage does your SUV get?"
The other ad shows people talking about their SUVs. One says, "My kids think it's cool." Another says, "I helped blow up a nightclub.""
What is this country coming to?
I know i'm preaching to the choir here, but if you don't like SUV's, DON'T BUY ONE!!!!!!
And don't show your mug on my TV and tell ME not to buy one either!
So what should I do, sell my boat and truck and fish from shore because some jack%&@ driving a hyundia thinks I should? Go scratch! There was a report the other night and it showed this woman who is spearheading the whole campaign (I think). Anyway, she's a soccer mom who had no use for driving an SUV but she was. The light bulb went off in her dimly lit skull that she should buy a smaller car and I guess she feels the rest of us should live like her.
To her and everyone behind that ad: come bring your hyundia to my house and tow my boat for me and while you're at it fit my family of four in there with skis and gear and let's go up the mountains for a ski weekend.... oh that's right that would be impossible wouldn't it!
Until we discover an alternative fuel source get out of my way cause I need to fill up.
I don't like SUVs, why do you?
Are SUVers Unpatriotic?
For TSBs:
The Edmunds Maintenance Guide
alldata.com
www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
Steve, Host
http://calid.gm.com/vci/
by entering in my TrailBlazer VIN after I read in the Dec '02 Techlink
http://service.gm.com./gmtechlink/images/issues/dec02/TLDec02e.html
that they had released a revised engine/transmission service calibration on July 28, 2002 "Cold Upshift Delay". A little detective work that dealer didn't want to bother with apparently.
Anyway, how come pickup trucks have managed to avoid all this flack? They're just as inneffecient and misused.
I agree. Don't forget about full-sized vans also.
tidester, host
I did the patriotic thing last year and bought an American-Made TrailBlazer to help support the economy and "Keep America Rolling" ... or something like that...
1. Lost heat to driver's side twice. (Could not duplicate)
2. Passenger seat belt tightens. (New belt ordered)
3. Vibration at hi way speeds. (They actually felt that one this time, and recommended tire balancing; which was on the paper I gave them. Their cost to balance was $35. My husband told them that we would take it to our regular place. Turns out they had already done it without approval, so we got it free.) Have not had a chance to test it due to our weather.
Noticed when cleaning off the road salt when I got it home that we have the paint scraped due to the plate housing. Took it in today and they would order the gasket. Got a call later to set up the time and was told it would take an hour. Do they not fix the paint, or just cover it with the gasket? Would like to know others experiences before taking it in.
Thanks
PolarBear6
http://www.gmoutlet.com/gmpppriceindex.html
Looks like my finance person may have been trying to screw me, she told me mine was a "4" even though I bought an Envoy XL 2WD, which should be a "3". Good thing I didn't buy it.
How many miles on your TrailBlazer?
I would like to learn just exactly what it says before I counter my dealer
Thanks
See this link for more info:
http://www.timlauro.com/cars/trailblazer/paint-chipping-before-after.htm