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Frank
I'm not too encouraged by your reports though! Though I like a sporty car, I value the feel of quality and NVH is pretty important to me. My dad's '92 ES300 is a benchmark that I invariably compare other cars to.
I hope the WRX resolves those NVH issues over the previous generation. Power wise I'm not concerned since now there are 227 ponies. Downshifting to pass quickly is something that I don't like about 4s as compared to V6s. I suppose this is one of the more torquey four cylinders out there.
The ride is stiff but its not sports-car stiff, the legacy is quite a bit more compliant if you need to compair. There is some nagging wind noise from the front left corner of the window but I dont notice stuff like that when im driving. I also enjoyed the ride height for daily stuff... why? Cause I didnt have to worry about sharp curbs or steep angled driveways, IE scraping the bottom of the car on anything.
The interior is nothing to whoop about, and its kinda flimsy, but it holds up very well over time aparently. I find the interior design to be perfect in terms of practabilty and design (minus the cup holder).
The new line will greatly improve the interior quality and solididity wise, and the ride will be more compliant and more quiet (No performance compromise though!) so you might want to wait and check them out.
BUT, on the other hand, I drove a new civic as everyone has always praised civics on their comfort, quality, etc. I liked the stiff and solid interior, but it was square and annoying. The steering wheel was uncomfortable as well. The sound level in that car is about 2 times as bad as the impreza if you want to know, and the ride is too soft and bouncy. It will help you to check out how that car drives after or before checking the Impreza... so you can see the difference
Outbackguru - If it were my store, I'd earmark one car for a demo and let it take all the abuse - unless, of course, you weren't going to get more than a trickle of cars. If that's the case, I'd say "no test drives" until the demand tapers off. I certainly wouldn't buy a WRX with demo miles.
searched web for every bit of info on this car.
First when I saw this car I didn't like it, but it
grew up on me eventually, and I sort of like it now...
Untill this weekend I was sure I will get it.
Now Canadian prices are announced .... I did't
exect the price to be so high.
Yes I know performance and so on...
But my estimation was at 32 as a maximum (my cut off price)
Subaru estimated at 35000can, plus options...
It's the same as Maxima SE, Audi 1.8T Quatro, Acura CL3.5 and very close to BMW325 at 36.700can
I know this car is better performer, bu Audi had
turbo and AWD too, and admit it - much better built car!...
I still like this car and see if I can make it to get it at 35, but now I look more at
Golf GTI 1.8t (at 26.000can - 9.000 cheaper)
and Prelude (at 28.000can - 7.000can cheaper)
Any other canadians here on this board?
What do you have to say? I am from Toronto.
Cant wait to see this car at the show here on
Feb 16.
For the price - $34995, u're getting a deal. There is no competition. This car will own all other cars in it's price class and those who are above. Do not even compare it with an audi a4 1.8t. The nearest performance comparison is an audi S4. That car MSRP at $56,000. So for more than 20k, u're getting one heckuva car.
The GTi and Prelude which you mention are good cars. For regular driving you will not feel much of a difference. But are a joke compared to the WRX. Seriously how can you even put FWD cars in the same league as a turbocharegd AWD?
My advice to you is to get the WRX while the price is still decent. Rumors has it that it that the price may go up on subsequent years.
oh well, perhaps if it did look as good, it would command a higher price. I'm getting no options except the 17" wheels if they aren't too expensive (don't tell me what the rumor is, i know already).
i've read the article in CAR magazine on it, and they say the steering is spot-on, meaning no play at all, and the it is easy to oversteer! Holy crap, but i doubt Subaru will let that suspension tuning arrive here. The brits are also paying quite a bit more for the car (21500 GBP).
He indicated I should have my car in 8 to 10 weeks. He did not offer any information regarding the allocation process, he just implied that he would send my order in and it would be built accordingly.
Does anyone have more accurate information on the delivery schedule or allocation process?
Has anyone been given a IN for the order you've placed?
What is the best source for more info on order processing and vehicle allocation?
Thanks in advance.
http://www.subaru.co.uk/mshow/mshowframe.htm
Even the wagon looks good.
Frank
I live in the Washington DC area and we have several (6 or so) Subaru dealers to choose from. The first two dealers I visited knew very little about the car and had no information beyond the MSRP press release. One did not know his allocation and the other told me they were sold out of their first allocation and that I could not have a car until April at the earliest. They both initially quoted me MSRP. When I told them I was going to buy a WAX and order it on Monday, I got both to agree to knock $500 off the MSRP. However, their lack of knowledge was a bit disconcerting to me. I also got the "I'll have to ask my manager" line from one of them, which I can not stand!
I than visited Stohlmans WV/Subaru in VA and met with a sales re who was not the most knowledgeable in the WAX details, but who immediately got me 2 people that were, including the Sales Manager. The Sales manager was extremely knowledgeable of the car and had already ordered his own WAX Wagon. We talked for awhile about the car and than he got out the new WAX Sales Brochure. I actually watched him tear off the wrapper and I was the first one to look at it! They actually gave me the WAX book to take home with me for the rest of the weekend, along with a copy of the options list, since I told them I was going to order the WAX from them on Monday. Not the best negotiating tactic, I know, but after the experience of the first two dealers, I knew I was buying from them after talking with them for 30 minutes or so. In the end we agreed to a sub-MSRP price with a $500 refundable deposit and I could not be happier. I don't know if I got the best price I could have since I did not visit the other 3 dealers in the area, but I know that I actually enjoyed the buying experience and that's worth a couple hundred bucks at least!
I hate to make this sound too much like a commercial for the dealer, but having read some of the horror stories some people have gone through trying to order a WRX (and experiencing the mediocrity of other dealers in the area) I wanted to both commend a good dealer and maybe save others some time and some grief.
I suppose if you are some sort of electrical engineer, you could find a way to connect it to another head unit... but that's a different discussion.
I'm inviting all kinds of flames here, but regarding the sound of the factory stereo... well, who cares? Music isn't the point of buying a WRX - if great sound is really important to you, maybe a Lexus with the Mark Levinson option should be on your shopping list. Different car, different mission. I doubt I'll ever turn mine on once I get the car, but that's just me :-)
Since it seems the discussion about wheels has resurfaced, I am reposting my earlier post (I promise, no affiliation with the website: You can get very similar wheels- with tires- for right around $1,000 from numerous aftermarket wheel dealers. Unless you are a stickler for OEM parts, look at the MAS Callisto 17" KONIG Rush 17", ENKEI TBS11 or ENKEI RMR's:
I plunked my $500 down for right of first refusal with Lou Fusz Subaru in St. Louis. They were knowledgeable, courteous, and ironically relying on the same Subaru homepage the rest of us have been using to determine pricing (at $23.9k for sedan 5spd); they too were aghast at rumors that 17" BBS wheels may turn out to be a $3000 option.
Heres a suggestion: BBS lookalikes: Do the Impreza RS test at www.discounttiredirect.com and check out the "Wheels" page "Interactive Wheel System (requires shockwave)", Go to: "Subaru/Impreza/Sedan" (You get to see somebody else's wheels on your car before you steal them).
Look at the following models starting at $949 including performance tires: MAS Callisto 17" KONIG Rush 17" ENKEI TBS11 or ENKEI RMR (I believe the ENKEI's are ringers for the BBS's).
Hard news: There are 175 vehicles scheduled to deliver to Midwestern stores and 161 have been sold. The dealers apparently don't get the car delivered without a buyer commitment. Best Regards.
More importantly, where is the "hard news" coming from? I would like to verify it with my dealer and confirm my order is scheduled or allocated in the 1st group, any suggestions?
If I got a lexus, I couldn't do 0-60 in 6 seconds with sportscar steering and handling for under $25k. But I also like my music a lot, and I am kind of an audiophile, so when I'm not practicing heel-and-toeing, I want some real nice sound out of the car. I'll be playing Rage against the machine or DJ Shadow or Tori Amos.
For those in the know, will the standard 16 x 6.5" wheels make the WRX look like a man with a beer belly and stick legs, or will the width be appropriate for those flared fenders?
What is the widest wheel that would safely fit on this car? Would it take an 8" wide rim?
Thanks.
Thanks to all for your contributions.
Stephen
Let me know if anyone has any info about this. By the way, I have a brochure in front of me if anyone has any questions that can be answered by the brochure you can't find elsewhere on the net.