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Yes, get the 5spd WRX instead of the automatic. :-) No limiter on the manual version.
Stephen
So you want him to get killed or what ? ;-(
Later...AH
TWRX
Compared to a WRX, if you look at the respective EPA specifications for rear head-, shoulder- & leg room, the A4's differences are downright minuscule: none of them vary by more than a half inch, and if you add them up, they sum to a difference of only 0.3" in total.
Perhaps there's something about the presentation of the one's interior over the other that made it psychologically FEEL smaller...such as a darker interior color?
-hh
Stephen
-mike
-B
Stephen
Also, about the Auto tranny "not being able to handle stress at higher speeds or some such thing", is it something you are conjuring out of thin air (as I suspect you are) or are you basing it on some factual material from reliable sources ? If it is based on facts, then could you point us to your source ? Thanks in advance.
Also, as a quick point of fact, nowhere in the Subaru specs have they stated that the Auto-tranny in particular is restricted to 130mph while the manual-tranny has no restriction. This rumor too, I suppose is a bit of hot air from interested parties !!
Later...AH
This limiter is post '92 IIRC.
-mike
Auto WRX
1st Gear: 40mph
2nd Gear: 73mph
3rd Gear: No maximum speed restriction.
4th Gear: No restriction
Manual WRX
1st Gear: 35mph
2nd Gear: 61mph
3rd Gear: 87mph
4th/5th: No restriction
This is the only restriction that is published by Subaru in their manual.
Later...AH
In all due respect AH, once again, don't put all your faith in the owner's manual. It's as well known (as a lot of owner's manuals are) for what it doesn't say as it is for what it does. I suggest you break away from the SOA womb and due some independent research. You may be surprised. :-)
Anyhow, it doesn't make the automatic any less of a car, it showcases some more differences between the 5spd WRX and the automatic version.
Here's a link to some posts about the top speed, auto vs 5spd:
http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71807&highlight=top+speed+limiter
Stephen
Maybe SOA is just being safely conservative with the automatic versions, who knows. Maybe Patti is willing to shed some light on this.
Stephen
-mike
So essentially, what you have posted is a link about opinions from a group of people.
Do you have any reliable information about top speed limiters ? Even the link you posted, does not have any information about the claim you made (in your previous post)about the auto-tranny "not being able to handle the stress or something like that", which was what interested me the most in your previous post. The speed limiter does not interest me, since I have absolutely no inclination to go anywhere above 100mph or so, at the most; and that too in quick bursts while rapidly overhauling and passing someone on the highway (where the kamikaze nature of the Auto-WRX on the highway, does come handy!). Anything above that is too much for US roads. When in Munich, Germany a few months back, I was in a car (Porsche 911 Turbo) that went well above 150mph on the Autobahn there, but those roads and conditions permit those speeds.
Interestingly, the Auto-equipped Acura 3.2TL (my other car) can go upto about 155mph and is drag limited to that speed. That is a published figure by Acura and not some opinions at a forum !! Incidentally, all BMWs are also governed in their speeds, well before their true terminal velocity; and I would suppose, that has absolutely nothing to do with stress-handling !!!
I personally am a man of logic and reason, and so unless there is reliable information to the contrary, I would assume that, stress-handling theory = mouthful of hot air. :-)
Take care.
Later...AH
-mike
Why all the debate? First, the manual WRX has published evidence that it can reach its drag limited maximum speed which is around 140mph. And the automatic version clearly has a 130 mph speed limiter in all published specs put out by Subaru. Pretty clear cut for me. And lastly, why does this matter so much? I'll probably never have to hit that speed limit anyway.
-mike
AH- lighten up! Sheesh... you and Stephen are squabbling like a couple of Mustang and Camero owners (And I'm almost positive that you've posted info from the I-Club before). The WRX in either configuration offers excellent AWD performance and is an outstanding value. Which one you buy should depend mainly on your individual preferences and driving situation.
-Frank P.
-mike
The SVX is indeed more of a grand tourer and would likely be more comfortable at sustained high speeds.
-juice
I did post info (about VTD-AWD) from I-club before....basically, info that...ahem...."yours truly" had posted in the i-club based on readings from technical articles. :-) I did not want to re-type my post from the I-club, so I just cut and pasted it. :-))
Later...AH
-Jason
I don't think they've ever awarded a Subaru.
-juice
Bob
Ed
I feel a temporary sense of being an elite owning a WRX. Just kidding, but I sure do enjoy driving it!
enjoy,
Phil
Bob
enjoy,
Phil
I absolutely love how they can give COY to a car that hasn't even hit the street yet, or who has barely hit the street and they haven't even gotten their hands on a real production one. Amazing.
I'm sure the T-bird will fall apart just like the rest of the FORDs, unless it's an SVT which is proof Ford can build a good reliable vehicle, they just don't do it on a regular basis.
-mike
paisan: I agree 100%. There were problems with the new T-bird's cooling system prior to introduction, and now I see that almost 300,000 Foci are being recalled. I'm past picking on Ford to the point where I just feel sorry for them now. The US auto industry really has to turn itself around but soon.
Ed
Bob
Ed: remember that T-bird we saw on that flat bed tow truck? A sign of things to come? ;-)
-juice
Back on topic - I AM glad that Subaru is getting recognition for finally bringing the WRX to the States.
Phil
High praise indeed from a publication famous for brutal honesty and not pulling any punches!
The ads are funny. Did you see the one where the other guy races off, and he gives the cute girl at the start line a ride? Very clever.
The CR review is surprising because these folks are practical and usually could care less about horsepower.
-juice
Back on topic - I AM glad that Subaru is getting recognition for finally bringing the WRX to the States.
Phil
-mike
Ed
Very good praise indeed, especially since it came from the prim and proper Consumer Reports !!
Later...AH
Paisan, I did see a new T-bird for sale about 2 weeks ago at a tiny Ford dealer in the middle of Po-dunk, Utah - the dealer didn't even have an indoor showroom. Yellow with a yellow hardtop - it looked lonely sitting there on the corner.
-Jason
In fact I don't read the automotive press much at all any more, though when I did I had a subscription to R&T and thought at the time it was head and shoulders above the rest. Wonder if that's still true, and what did they have to say about the WRX?