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I have to agree. In spite of the fact that I think that ATF+4 isn't the best fluid for a pre-2000 minivan transmission, I'd still rather use it than a Pep-Boyz mystery mix.
Were it that I still had a transmission that speced ATF+3, this is what I would be using:
http://www.havoline.com/products/na/trans_atf3.html
Best Regards,
Shipo
The overdrive transmission in my V-6 91 Plymouth Voyager is almost completely gone. We dropped by a wreckers and they have suggested we could replace the the my toasted tranny with a three speed transmission.
Any body want to tell me some pros or cons of this idea?
Cons: No overdrive, less MPG, may not match up to existing transmission wiring/computer harness, may not be able to achieve electronically controlled torque converter lock-up in 3rd gear, may not match up to bell housing etc. etc....
overall i like my van- just always pay the 1600 for the extended warranty and then make a nitpick list and bring the vehicle in because you only pay the money per visit not per item on the list.
What can I tow and what upgrades would permit me to tow what?
Obviously, a tranny cooler would be the first thing to do...
What else?
Thanks
Steve
I thought enough was enough and traded it yesterday for an '05 with 18k miles. Mine was at 107,500.
I sure hope this newer one lasts a while...
The only other hypothesis I had was that the tranny configuration had changed in the docs since I bought the car. They brought it to the new spec, which wasn't the most efficient based on the prior settings in the transmission computer module. Thus bad mileage, which would point to a need for a software updated.
Just fishing.
A website I found with some information about premature Dodge/Chrysler Transmission failures that seem to continue unbelieveably even with newer Dodge's and Chrysler's
I have had too many problems with the Chrysler and Dodge vehicles I've owned and don't think I'll ever be buying another Chrysler vehicle again.
As for why your transmissions have failed, well, the only one(s) that I would trust are ones sourced from Chrysler directly. Third party rebuilders and remanufacturers are highly suspect at best. Some questions to ask:
- Did you make sure to have the transmission fluid and filter replaced by the dealership every thirty thousand miles? If you didn't, either because you simply didn't have the service performed or you had the service performed by a non-dealer, then kiss your tranny goodbye.
- When driving in heavy bumper to bumper traffic, or moderate "speed-up/slow-down" traffic, did you shift your transmission into 3rd (as recommended by the Owner's Manual)? If you didn't, you've shortened your transmission life.
- Did you and those that drove your van make it a habit to come to a complete stop before shifting from "R" to "D" (or the other way around)? If you didn't, kiss your tranny goodbye once again.
The fact of the matter is that these transmissions will last a good long time if properly cared for.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Best Regards,
Shipo
Dealer says no service bulletins or computer codes.
Anyone else having these issues?
Of course I replaced an Ody after 118K so what do I know?
Keep you posted!
reach me at fracker_lover03@yahoo.com!!!! i work as a chrysler tech, i like this conversion idea,i hope to keep every body posted on the results of this!!! :shades: :shades:
We bought an 06 Caravan in October 06. We left the lot and drove 10 miles to a restaurant. After dinner we hopped into the van and proceeded to leave. When I put the van in drive, it took aprox 3 seconds, before it dropped or clunked heavy into gear. I put it back in park and when I did the process again, the clunk was there.I called dealer and they say it's because it's to new < bullshitzu <that's what I said.
Bill :lemon:
I just got a 2007 Grand Caravan SXT last week. Almost right away i noticed a wierd "shudder" right before the van comes to a complete stop. I'm talking about maybe a second before the stop. It feels like a "shake" or "shudder" almost like when anti-lock brakes kick in. The whole van does'nt shake, I just feel it and so does the passenger. But i think its more transmission related. Does anyone else have this ?
Thanks. Dan
Twocycle2
The transmission in your 2006 Grand Caravan uses a fully synthetic ATF+4 transmission fluid, and per your Owner's Manual, you don't need to replace the fluid ever (assuming you aren't towing or driving in a high dust environment). That said, some folks still adhere to the 30,000 mile schedule of the earlier vans, others drop the pan and such every 100,000 miles on the Gen4 vans.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Shipo,
Don't get me wrong....had maintenance been done to those tranny's, it is quite possible they would have lasted longer. I don't remember what the manual for the Dynasty said, but I do know the T&C said that no maintenance was required for "normal" service duty. That struck me as odd back then, given the problematic history of these units, and that was even back when Chrysler offered the 7/70 warranty on the powertrain.
Question for you....do you know specifically what the problems were with those early units that caused the early failures (I apologize if this has been asked previously in this forum, as I have not gone back and read every page). I heard of people in the early 90's who barely got 1k miles before it failed.
thx for the info
Twocycle2
Best Regards,
Shipo
And yet here we are, some eighteen model years or so since the 41TE was released, and if you go to Jiffy Boob or Pep Boyz and have your tranny serviced, they will insist on using Dextron in combination with some kind of a magic elixir to make it okay to use in the 41TE. I guess it isn't at all surprising that there are still transmissions out there failing due to the incorrect fluid. Annoying.
As for why to use it the synthetic ATF+4, I don't believe that winter has anything to do with it. Automatic transmissions get HOT due to the constant shearing going on inside (primarily in the torque converter), and synthetic tranny fluid deals with the heat WAY better than semi-synthetic or conventional ATF. Oh, that an as of the 2000 model year virtually all Chrysler automatic transmissions were designed and built specifically for that fluid and its very specific coefficient of friction.
Regarding synthetic engine oil, well, I'm one of those that never bought the company line anyway. I converted our 1998 DGC Sport 3.8 to Mobil 1 (currently using 0W-40) at the second oil change, and I switched our 2003 DGC ES 3.8 over at the first. Warranty or no, I then went to 10,000 mile OCIs (supported by UOAs of course), and now, with a combined 230,000 miles on the two vans, their engines are as robust and spotlessly clean (on the inside anyway) as they were the day they left the factory.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Problem: It refuses to change gears (seems stuck in second) when accelerating/decelerating (most commonly in highway entrance ramps, but has also happened leaving the grocery store). When this happens all of the gear indicator lights have those boxes around them. This is sporadic - we did not notice it during the test drive when we purchased it.
The dealership has replaced "electrical control modules" - to no avail. Any ideas?
One of the problems with electronic problems (especially with a used car) is that you almost never know going in where the problem might lay. Was the van in an accident? Did the previous owner mess something up trying to add a modification? Is there a bad wiring harness? Is the Transmission Control Module (TCM) somehow hammered (apparently not as it is an odds-on bet that that was the first thing your dealer replaced)? Is the power supply to the TCM clean? Are all of the sensors inside the transmission, and the sensors that report on engine operation, throttle position, vehicle speed, gear selection and a whole host of other conditions, reporting the proper metrics?
At this point, were I in your shoes I'd be losing confidence quite quickly in your dealer and be looking to reverse the transaction. Said another way, it's time to start asking for your money back, possibly with the help of a lawyer.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Dan
Also checked for fault codes, but there is non.
Does anyone hva a idea how to solve this problem?
I will be very greatful
Many Thanks
Norwaybob
Dan
I just bought a 02 Dodge Grand Caravan with 83k and autostick. The engine light came on yesterday and limp mode engaged. I just took it to my mechanic today and he said the scan showed up a faulty TCM. I asked him to futher investigate as per past postings, ie. clean ground wires, loose harness. Is their anything else that he should check before investing big bucks on a tcm? Before this problem the tranny was shifting flawlessly. Also if it is the tcm, could I buy one from salvage and save $400? The man at salvage said these rarely go out so you should be okay with a used part. What do you think? Does the tcm or any other part need to me retrained or refreshed if we put a new or a used tcm in the van? If so, what kind of cost for this process? What else would cause the scan to show a faulty tcm? Thanks for your help. I love my vans and wouldn't trade them for a Honda or Toyota ever!