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Chrysler 300M

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  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    saw the Chronos--WOW, what a car--20 inch wheels, nice guages located where Av is putting his--in just forward of the shifter---V8 engine with I believe 350 or so horseies---couldnt get to sit in it but it looked very comfortable---and get this--all 4 door handles are shaved--wonder how you would get into the vehicle if the battery died?--Av, you should consider shaving at least the front passenger door handle---

    Also saw the Dodge Charger--another WOW--3/4 height windows, nice wheels, and a flip flop paint job--very sleek styling--Chrysler hasnt lost the styling touch--just hope they dont produce retro-look Intrepid or radically redesigned 300sedan--the 300N convertible is superb however---

    I really liked the Lexus 300ES--they had a fully optioned model on display for 39K--(base is $31K).
    Beautiful exterior design and just as impressive luxury looking interior with comfortable buckets and nice NAV system. I may have to consider that car for my next vehicle---

    also saw the Caddy CTS---not really impressed with the style or price--bases at $29k but quickly adds up with options---the one they had on display listed at 39k

    they also had the T-bird on display--nice looking convertible with 50-50 wt distribution--

    audi A6 is relatively unchanged and next to the Lexus ES300, I was not that impressed by the Mercedes C-class

    Well thats my update on the auto show--if an auto show comes near you, it's worth going to check out the Chronos--looks much better in the flesh than seeing it in pictures on the net--I wonder how much they will be selling for.

    Easyrider300M
  • kzrsixkzrsix Member Posts: 3
    I recently replaced the tires on my 2000 no php ride. Opted for the XGT Z4's. Waited a couple weeks for tires to arrive from warehouse. Could tell the difference from originals leaving the tire store's parking lot. XGT's kind of pricey, but what the heck! tires are not any quieter than "bad-year" originals, but perform much better. I considered the MXV4's, but went w/the XGT's. One of those "put your money down and take your chances".
    Kzrsix
  • avalanche165avalanche165 Member Posts: 558
    the sharper image gadget in the back, what is that? looks like a stun gun ;)
  • tucsongiltucsongil Member Posts: 116
    I had a great time meeting and talking with the "Over the M Gang" in Scottsdale. We all had a lot to say about our M's. Good people, good time, and good event!

    Thanks 300Michael and job well done!

    BTW, Dubs M is sweet! Now dual exhaust it. Your brother in law loved the way my M sounded when he was riding shotgun with me on the freeway! O_*
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    Hey- sounds like you two went to the same show! A friend of mine bought a 2001 Hyundai XG300 L a little over a month ago. Nice car- very quiet, roomy and smooth shifting. Can't beat that warranty! Another friend just bought a 2002 Hyundai Sonata. This is also a nice car. Not sure which model it is. Saw it at night.

    I think I saw an Aston Martin yesterday. Not sure. Whatever it was, it was a beauty!

    laurasdada-

    30,000 miles! WOW! I have 10,300+ on mine from 3/28/01! Catching up to you! ;-)) My friends with the XG300 L went to you know where the other night and made out like bandits!! Sorry I didn't go too! They're the same ones who won the car there last April, but opted for the money instead!! Talk about LUCKY!!

    easyrider300m-

    Was this the Charger they had at the show?

    http://www.geocities.com/fastdriver2_99/charger/

    Not bad looking.

    AZ group- Glad you had a good time! How were those Krispy Kremes? ;-)) Will I be able to see the pics too even though I'm not a member of the 300 club?

    fastdriver
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 4,684
    I believe easyrider and I both live in South Suburban Boston area, so I'm sure he went to the NE auto show, also. I imagine (if you go) you'll hit the Javits next spring... It appears you drive a bit more than I! I'm trying to conserve warranty miles...;-)

    I went to (dare I mention the actual name??? Sure, why not. LIfe is short) Mohegan Sun a couple of weeks ago. New casino is nice, much brighter and Vegas-like. As my luck has gone south lately, again I made a donation. Ugh. Do your lucky friend want to adopt a middle-aged man?

    Easyrider is right, the Chronos is muy cool. As is the Charger. I was less impressed with the new Lexus ES300 exterior than the richly luxurious interior. I might take the evil wife to look at an RX300 this afternoon, after the Patriots beat the Bills (please!).

    Enjoy the rest of your weekend and don't forget to take some time to reflect upon the role of Veterans in the fabric of our great country!

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • scotianscotian Member Posts: 1,064
    might be a seat belt cutter and window breaker for emergencies.
  • scotianscotian Member Posts: 1,064
    Oh, those "knobs" are air fresheners...
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    laurasdada-

    "I'm trying to conserve warranty miles...;-)"

    I hear you! I have a 4/50,000 bumper to bumper warranty. My lease is 3 1/2 years 15,000k a year.

    "again I made a donation."

    THANK YOU! It will help our state budget! LOL....

    "Do your lucky friends want to adopt a middle-aged man?"

    NO! Me first!

    "Enjoy the rest of your weekend and don't forget to take some time to reflect upon the role of Veterans in the fabric of our great country!"

    Yep. Been watching many of the different ceremonies on TV. Watching the President now at Ground Zero!

    Was the Charger the same one as in my pics above?

    fastdriver
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    yep--same one---great exterior style---couldnt sit it the car so no comment on the interior---the Chronos is a looker but not sure if it would be a good everyday driver---I would be afraid of all the fingerprints the window would attract and definitely wouldnt want to park it on the streets of Boston, expecially near the seedier areas--that car probably wont be very cheap either--I think its a replacement for the Prowler which I believe is being discontinued soon

    Did you see the patriot Prowler painted in American Flag design--talk about a "look-at-me" paint job!

    I thought the ES300's exterior was a major improvement over past years--expecially like the HID headlights (optional). The interior is top-notch--if it handles as good as it looks, I will be considering it for my next vehicle purchase.

    What did you guys think of the Caddilac CTS?
  • silverbeesilverbee Member Posts: 22
    I also would be interested in the mats but they would have to be heavy duty wnter.Or if not I could run anyone you all decide on just for the summer. Has anyone put skirts on this vehicle?? I wonder how they would look.How about av??I would like to do what he is doing to his car sure looks good.Keep posting we are are watching!!Later
  • tucsongiltucsongil Member Posts: 116
    Okay gang, I just bought a TDK CD-RW 24x to install in my new Dell PC. I read on PC World.com that this player is their highest rated 24x burner(btw it has a great software bundle Nero 5.5, Music Match Jukebox, Adobe Activeshare, MP-Frees).

    My question: Does our M's CD player play CD-Rs and CD-RWs? Or neither?

    I did not buy any blank CD dics with the Burner until I know which one the M plays.

    Also, what sites do I need to go to for download music?

    Fastdriver: The Krispy Kremes were great! I bought a leftover dozen off 300Michael to take back to Tucson for we do not have KKs in Tucson.
  • denvermdenverm Member Posts: 358
    The stereo in the M definitely plays CD-R's. I haven't tried CD-RW's (CD-R's are just too cheap to bother with CD-RW's, IMHO), but probably plays them, too. You may get a few more skips over bumps than with pre-recorded CD's, but it's not bad. I've had better luck with Memorex Music CDR's than other brands.


    Someone here (Race?) recommended http://www.kazaa.com/ for downloading MP3's. I haven't tried it but my son thinks it's great.

  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    I did post some of the pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/my300m_ you need to go to page 2 to see them. I will post some pics of the Krispy Kreems for you to see later. yum yum :)
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    turned in my 1999 Candy Apple Red 300M with PHP, 360 Watt Stereo, and full size spare. Yesterday. The car was great. However air conditioning started leaking and the right rear window motor burned out right before the end of the lease.

    The Chrysler dealers around here were not very eager to make any deals. Plus many of them don't have PHP on their lots. And those who do, have the loaded with everything else and say "but this car is loaded with everything, I can't give you a good deal". Or if I want to lease - "but over the years the price has grown while the residual has dropped, I don't think I can give you a good lease deal". I don't understand these dealers - I have watched their inventory online and they had had the same cars on their lots for TWO months or longer. Do they EVER want to sell them?

    So all that was putting too much stress on me. I would have continued shopping for a 300M but I checked out this Acura dealer and he gave me a good lease deal on the TL Type-S. That was actually a few weeks ago and I turned it down, hoping to find another 300M. But he called again the other day and offered an even slightly better deal. And he really showed that he wanted my business.

    So I have a 48-month lease on Acura TL-S now. It is Aegean Blue with black interior. Very nice car, very nice ride, smooooooth transmission.

    But I already miss my 300M. I miss the Auto headlights. I miss the courtesy lights for rear passengers (TL only has a dome light). I miss the trip computer (TL only has two trip-o-meters). I miss 300M's turning ability and readiness to fishtail a bit. I miss the adjustable rear headrests.

    What I am going to miss the most is the 300M crowd in this forum. I think I am going to hang out here anyway.
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    fold down rear seats.

    gas strut trunk hinges.

    key-hole in the trunk lid that was so convenient for closing the trunk.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    but your heart is still in it and you still appreciate the aura of the car---we hope you visit often just like fastdriver and hopefully fuzzywuzzy---bet you'll be eying the 300N in a couple more years (or who knows, maybe the Chronos)---maybe we should rename this the acura and 300M owners forum---

    Easyrider300M
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    300M is a VERY special car. I knew I wanted it when I first saw its pre-production unit at the NY Auto Show quite a few years ago. I got it, I enjoyed it a lot. I hope I will have another 300 in the future.

    300M is an amazing car. It is quite big yet it does not feel big. It accelerates well, especially with age. It handles really well, I would say unexpectedly well for its size. It pampers with luxury features. It has great visual style inside and out (I miss those gauges). And it is very practical with all that space, huge trunk, and folding rear seats.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    When you want to laugh but can only cry--Dont give up, just downgrade to a vehicle within your means:


    http://www.losercars.com/images/loser17.jpg

  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    easyrider300m-

    Charger is great looking like the 300M, but......

    tucsongil-

    I was at that SAME Krispy Creme in Scottsdale when I was out there last year. I know right where you were. I had to go there because of all I had heard about them in this topic and in the early Zaino topic. We don't have any Krispy Cremes in CT either.

    300michael-

    Thanks for the pics. WOW! That must have been some sight! Seven beauties for sure! Did you attract a lot of attention from passers-by? Did they all have a Zaino shine? ;-))

    ruski-

    CONGRATULATIONS!! Great color for Zaino! I knew that if you drove one, you'd love it! You'll get used to all the missing gadgets like I did. I always did my gas mileage on a calculator anyway. As for the headlights, I leave mine on all the time. That way they will go on when you unlock the doors and go off when the key is out of the ignition for 30 seconds. You can snake the phone cord from the outlet in the console through the cupholder opening for the telephone or just use the one on the dash.

    As for the lack of a trunk keyhole, I never used the key on the 300 anyway. On the Acura, I just reach in where the emergency handle is and close the trunk from that to avoid any fingerprints on the trunk. It's easy. I never really used the fold down seats anyway, so I don't miss that. There is another emergency trunk release behind the foldown armrest. The trunk hinges are kind of "old fashioned" these days, but the trunk is a little "bouncier" and not like dead weight.

    I hope you have as good a time with that car as I'm having with mine. 10,300+ miles since 3/28/01 and loving every minute of it. Still always getting in the 20's for gas mileage since day one. Rarely got that with the 300. I don't drive 55 or I'd probably get closer to 30MPG.

    You're going to love the 5-speed tranny and the TL's pep! Just break her in easy even though it's very difficult. When you do, let me know if you think it's as smooth and quiet as the Riv when you floor it. You'll love the slight "roar" from the duals.

    Start taking some pics! Check out http://www.acura-tl.com

    fastdriver
  • nmifr300mnmifr300m Member Posts: 28
    Hi,

    Just got back from the Az meet. Mike did a wonderful job of pulling this together and was a wonderful host.

    I meandered back through Salt Creek Canyon and the VLA. So I took nine hours for a seven and a half hour drive. Trying to make up time at the end I picked up a ticket (77 in a 55 zone). I sure didn't see the 55 sign. Small towns still arrange to have speed traps. The trip was more than worth it.

    I learned a lot and will start making the mods, Air Intake, plugs, and Duals. I recived word from Roger that I was choosen to do the Dyno runs while making the mods. I'll send all information to the club so look at the club pages. Roger and the board laid out a nice testing program as I step through the mods that should teach us a lot.

    A GREAT BIG THANKS TO MIKE. I LOOK FORWARD TO OTHER MEETS.
  • lancerubinlancerubin Member Posts: 12
    Was able to buy a 2001 for 7,OOO off sticker.....and got the champaign color I always loved. My two questions are about the auto stick. Can I go to autostick when I am already at freeway speeds so that I can downshift for passing, or do I have to stop the car before switching into autostick? Also, when starting in autostick from a stop, I find the switching from 1-2 and 2-3 to be jarring, not able to make it smooth regardless of revs. Is there a secret to this? Thanks, Lance
  • 99_300m_ric_va99_300m_ric_va Member Posts: 377
    Lance,

    Welcome to the world of the 300M. You'll be in love soon if not already. :)

    As for autostick. You can switch in and out at any speed. It will show you current gear, usually 4th if you're moving along at any significant speed, and you can downshift accordingly for passing. When in autostick mode, the shift are firmer. My car shifts 2nd to 3rd much firmer than 1st to 2nd. It's programmed to be like in a sport mode so shift is quicker and more jerky. It will shift a little smoother if you're soft pedaling it, but who does that? :D

    Other Autostick "features":
    Autostick also prevents the downshifting when using cruise control, that is the downshifts it will do to hold speed when you are going DOWNHILL (Great in hilly areas). If you put enough load on the engine, the car will downshift from 4th to 3rd on occasion automatically, but will not shift back. As you come to a stop of slow down to preprogrammed speeds, the car will downshift back towards first automatically. It will also automatically upshift around 6500 rpm. If you are in the throttle too much, it will not shift into 4th gear from 3rd. Last one I can think of, it will not let you downshift to a gear it thinks you are driving to fast and would result in RPMs being too high.

    Hope that helps.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    See, that's how I was treated back in 99 when I bought my 2000 M. No deals! I guess it's location? Congrats on the TL-S. I'm sure you will be happy. As for me, nothing at the moment. I'm not getting anything untill at least January. Good luck.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Ok, I'm going to NYC for Thanksgiving. I'm also going on a road trip with some friends, I need to rent a car. Since I'm 300M-less, I would like to rent one. Which rental place rents them? Anyone know how much they run? I need one for like 4 days.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    My 2000 played CD-R's fine. It did not play CD-RW's though. I tried.
  • 300michael300michael Member Posts: 1,815
    Sorry I missed you calls, and about the ticket. Some of those small towns put the signs in the strangest places. I am glad to hear about the testing (club sponsored) and that you made it back safely. I will let you know, if we have any more meets, besides the one in January at the Barrett-Jackson show in Scottdale.
  • mykemmykem Member Posts: 203
    please check in. thanks.

    -m
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    during my last year with 300M, I was in Autostick 95% of the time. It is great in traffic - just leave it in 2nd all the time and avoid the tranny trying to guess which gear it should be in. As the speeds pick up, leave it in 3rd.

    Autostick is also great when you need to quickly downshift and whoop someone.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Is this a sign....... It's a little scary for sure. I'm flying American air up to NYC for Thanksgiving next week! To JFK too! Not sure if I'm flying it anymore though! I guess I'll see what turns out to be the cause.
  • splattsplatt Member Posts: 328
    I just heard about the ny crash :(:( Can't believe it. So far, no news really...

    On a different front - Tuscangil - the cd player will play CDR but not CDRW. Already tried it. I burn cd's all the time to make mixes I like. I got 200 cdrs for a little under $3 so it really doesn't matter :D As for where to d/l music, I'm not sure people should say here as it is illegal. you can email me if you'd like :)

    Autostick - I use it frequently to downshift instead of breaking. It doesn't really have any benefit other than nothaving to move my feet off the gas. It does shift harder, but if you notice in D it will shift to 2nd and 3rd gear at very low rpm under normal driving ;)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    The M plays CDRs, or CDRWs recorded like CDRs (although that would be a waste of money). The player won't read CDRWs that are formatted as CDRWs where you can delete and add files. The disk must be fully burned and the session closed out.
  • jackdeucejackdeuce Member Posts: 2
    Greetings,

    I purchased a 2001 300M about 1 month ago. It has given my nothing but problems, and the local dealers cannot figure out what is going on.

    Every once in a while the car will start, run for 2 seconds, then die. After this the starter motor will not even turn over. After waiting about 1 day, the car will start and be fine for several days. The problem will then repeat itself.

    Trip 1 to the dealer
    ------------------------------------------
    Dealer: You have a dead battery
    Me: How can I have a dead battery if it starts fine then dies after several seconds..
    Dealer: You have a dead battery. We will charge it overnight.

    The car did start fine the next day.

    Trip 2 to a different dealer:
    -------------------------------------------
    Dealer: You have a bad chip in your key:
    Me: Ok lets replace it

    The car did not start the next day (with several clients in the back seat...luckily one of them was able to drive me to the dealer after the tow truck came)

    Trip 3 to the dealer:
    -------------------------------------------
    Dealer: We could not get the car to act up, so we can't fix it.
    Me: (Time to start researching my local lemon laws)

    Has anyone dealt with this? Perhaps you know what is causing this so I can tell the dealer what they need to know to fix this car. It fails to start about 1 out of every 5 times, when you wait a day, it probably will be able to start....only to fail later.

    I really wanted to try to give an American-made sedan a chance. Unfortunately, things are not working out too well.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Dollar rents DC products. The compact is a Neon, the "standard" is a Stratus, the full size is an Intrepid, and the "Premium" is a 300M. I've been able to get deep discounts on everything up to an intrepid...as little as $23 per day...but the M is always around $60 per day. However, I've been able to upgrade at the counter for under $10 per day. My advice is to get your best price on a standard or full size car and then upgrade at the counter. The risk is that they don't have an M to upgrade you to, but that's normally not a problem. It will save you some serious $
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Check the battery connections. I had a similar problem and it turned out to be a loose wire (although they all LOOKED tight) on the positive battery post that sits up at the front of the engine. That post makes it easier for you to get at the battery/electrical when you need to jump the car. It has some wires running to it, like some computer control stuff and a wire to your starter solenoid. Your dealer should take that post apart and clean everything before putting it back together. Good luck! Once you get this problem licked I bet you'll love your car.

    -M
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    ok...here is a mixed blessing. I went to pick up my Intrepid at Dollar in San Jose last night and they were out of full sized cars. Instead of offering me a 300M like before, they offered me a new Sebring convertible for the same price ($23 per day!) Cool, right? Well, this morning it's cold and POURING down rain. lol! Personally I don't like driving convertibles with the top up. They make the car smaller than it already is, and the visibility out the back (and the front because of the clips and handles) really stinks. Overall the Sebring is pretty comfortable though. Too small for me, but it's got a driving feel that I'm used to with my M. Nice pickup with the V6 too.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Have the dealer run a code scan. Scan the computer for codes. It could be a faulty SKIMS modual. It stand for Sentry key immoblizer system. It's the brain of the security system. Also reads the computer encoded key. On my 2000, I had a short in a wire which caused a simlar problem in which the car would start, then a few seconds later die. They fixed the open wire, & all was good. From your experience, I would go to another dealer, Suggest this to them, & then wait there untill they can prove to you it's not the problem. If it was a dead battery, I'm sure they have a battery tester. That would tell them if the battery was good. A computer scan should be the first thing any dealer does.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Well...So much for that. All the location in, or around NY are sold out for Thanksgiving. Oh well.
  • rogor2krogor2k Member Posts: 385
    Who has installed the KVR rotors and who has the best price? My fronts are starting to exhibit signs of warpage and I may just go for the gusto and put on some good rotors rather than messing around with turning them.
  • mikeypmikeyp Member Posts: 32
    Hello fellow M'ers!
    Wanted to let you all know that I've been approachefd by Billet Grills to do a custom grill (and I think lower grill) for my M...

    I need to work out the details, but I believe that they are going to use me as the Ginne pig on this..this should be a swithable deal..meaning that if you lease, you can pop out the Billet and put the factory one back in...

    I will keep everybody posted on the outcome..and when I get pictures..I'll be sure to post them..

    Just thought you all would like to know..
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Let us know the $$, and find out what kind of discounts they would give in quantity. We now have 200 members of the 300M club, and we could list them as a preferred vendor for grills (maybe some negotiating leverage there for you). If you're not a member, JOIN. ;)

    Why can't I be approached by someone to try something cool on my M? Maybe I'll go drive around Paxton for a while to see if I can get the attention of their supercharger group. lol
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Just adding my two pennies... You can switch in and out of autostick at any time. I've never had a problem...unless you somehow put it in neutral instead of drive while shifting out of autostick. ;) Also, I too found the shift timing tricky when I started using autostick, but I've found the smoothest shifts occur if you don't try to take your foot off the gas during shift..which is completely contrary to how you'd shift a manual tranny. Just keep on the gas and it will shift smoothly.
  • scotianscotian Member Posts: 1,064
    Grills?


    Looking at:


    http://www.autostockinc.com/billetgrilleinstalls.html


    I thought to myself, "These grilles don't look very good." But then when I saw the PT Cruiser pic, which I liked a lot, I thought, "It's not the grilles -- it's the ugly cars and trucks!"


    It might be worth it, if it comes in black chrome. I hope the wings can stay on there somehow...

  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    fuzzywuzzy-

    The CEO of American said this morning that people could cancel their flights with NO problems. Been watching the news since this morning. American has not been having good luck lately. Can't you see if they can switch you to Delta or some other airline? Check it out. Lots of people might be canceling. Same with the rental car once people hear the current news. More cars might become available.

    Be careful.

    fastdriver
  • cmyers300mcmyers300m Member Posts: 206
    I FINALLY got a Borla system! Ordered from Summit Racing, cost $511 + the cost of a K&N filter. I put in the filter myself on Saturday, however I'm having a local mod shop do the cat-back system on Thursday. I'M SOOOOO EXCITED,sorry just had to say it.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Hey...that's what we're here for! Our wives don't appreciate our excitement so we have to go SOMEWHERE. heh.
  • grunschevgrunschev Member Posts: 106
    I'm no authority, as I've only downloaded 25-30 hours of music. But I will say all but about 10 minutes of that 25-30 hours has been perfectly legal. It has all been from the artists themselves. Believe it or not, some big-time artists put their stuff on MP3.com. Others put a song or two from each album on their own websites so you can sample their stuff. Some even make entire concerts available.

    There's no need to feel like you're doing something illicit when there're perfectly licit ways to go about it!

    Oh, and after sampling the tunes on the artists' web sites, buy the CDs directly from them -- it's better for them.

    Igor
  • mikeypmikeyp Member Posts: 32
    I guess that I'm lucky! I was wondering what to do with the Chyrsler logo on the front (I want to take off all Chrysler stuff on the outside of the car)...and Avalance did such a great job with his center piece..I started thinking...maybe there is a way to replace the grill..so I called them...and they want to work on it together..

    I'm pretty sure that they will do two kinds..Full chrome, as well as Black chrome..which I think would look HOT!I'm not a member yet, but as soon as I join, I'll let everybody know..maybe I'll start a side buisness and sell these myself?? I'll give you a discount..don't worry!

    I agree scotian..I think that most of them look ok..but the PT looked great..and I've seen some with...black chrome willl look hot!
  • jackdeucejackdeuce Member Posts: 2
    I will take your advice and let you all know the outcome....

    Jack
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