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It is my understanding from the info on Edmunds (usu. more up to date than Chrysler's own web site!) that chromes are indeed available with the PHG/Lux Gp/Side airbags/Moonroof. Great combo choice- exactly how my Garnet 01 M is equipped! My guess would be there is some supplier delay somewhere & some uneducated soul just gave the go ahead to build your 1st order figuring the customer (you) would take it anyway-chromes or not. My advice is to stick to your guns- tell the dealer you will only accept EXACTLY the car you want. This is what I had to do to get my M the way I wanted it, although in my case they kept trying to get me to accept a NON-PHG car. (BTW- the chromes are a good deal, and the full-size spare is a great deal- I got it and have used it already)
Good luck!
Jon
http://www.ritchiefamily.com/300m.htm
Going to Detroit this Wed, autoshow .anybody else??
We will be there Sunday.
E-mail me (address on profile) if you will be there this weekend.
Thanks again!
http://www.woodtrim.com/catalog_detail.cfm?prod=3860
I have been very happy with this kit.
Don't worry about missing the 20% off sale, they have one every month...sometimes asking for free shipping works too.
The kits are, in fact, manufactured in, and shipped from, Mexico.
Carsdirect's price for the chrome wheels was $690, and their price for the full sized chrome spare was $354. Therefore, "your" car without the chrome or full sized spare would cost about $29,700 from Carsdirect. Don't pay any more than that at your dealer. In fact, go run the numbers on-line and tell your dealer that just for being stupid they have to beat the price by at least $300. lol
I wouldn't let on that the wheels aren't an issue. Make a big deal out of it. If they give you the same story about not being able to order the wheels with those packages, call them on it. Make an even bigger stink, demand to talk to the dealership manager or owner. By the time you're through with them you should be able to name any reasonable price to them just so they can keep the sale. Really work them on the fact that they screwed up TWICE on the same thing so what else might they screw up on?
Many dealers wouldn't think twice about working a customer so take advantage of your knowledge and work THEM for a change. Just don't go ballistic, remain calm but very firm with them and show them you mean business. The shoes on the other foot for a change, so have some fun with it.
My Garnet 2001M does indeed have chrome wheels- and an extra stock chrome wheel on my full-size spare (for not much extra $$ on the sticker!). My M also has PHG/Lux Gp/Side airbags/Moonroof/ Infinity II 4-disc CD.
BTW- Can you shed any light on the possibility of adding the Special's performance gear ratio to a "std" 300M?
Jon
jona -Sorry cant give you any info on putting the Specials gears in the regular 300. All I know is that when we build the Special we use the trans that is also used with the 2.7 engine. At first I thought they made another trans with different gearing ,but on closer inspection we only have two racks of trans on the line. So the Special and 2.7 cars use the same one. The only change is in the software used in the controller..
Unlike last time, I was prepared for this go around. I had put the Michelin Pilot Alpins on the Special Saturday. Best purchase I ever made. Man, that car moves through the snow like a hot knife through butter now.
No noticable negative effects either. The ride hasn't changed much, the handling is still good, and out on the wet but bare pavement of the freeway the tires were quiet and smooth.
A big thumbs up for the Pilot Alpins!
We always go MLK weekend to take advantage of the Monday holiday for the Henry Ford Museum.
Sorry for the erronious post.
at Chrysler U.S.A. at http://www.chrysler.com in the U.S. and it's $32,595.00. To convert Canadian to U.S the factor is .63 so the $44,345 .00 in comparable real money would be
$27,937.00. The exchange factures can be found at http://xe.com/ucc/. So if your paying $33,000 for the M U.S. your actully paying around $52,800.00 Canadian. I wonder why there is such a discrepency.
On another note...I know everyone wants to you to work on a Vegas meet, but I had a thought if you wanted to look into this for So CA. I live within walking distance from Carlsbad Raceway. They run open drag races every weekend and on Saturdays they start lining up at 11:00 for the gates to open at 1:00. I love looking at the variety of cars when I drive by. A few weeks ago I noticed at least 5 late model Lincoln Mark VI's lined up. Not your average drag racer. I'm assuming they were a club maybe taking the cars out for a meet and test run. Might be fun to do with the 300M's. There is a wide variety of cars...this weekend was overwhelmingly late model Camaros, but you usually see classic muscle cars, hot rod antiques, mustangs and of course lots of Rice Rockets. Only thing I can tell you need to race is some sort of "neutral safety switch" whatever that is. Here's the link if you want to check it out (if I post it right anyway)
http://carlsbadrags.tripod.com/carlsbadrags/
Taking this conversation off-line is a really good idea.
Thanks! ;-)
Pat
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I inquired about true HID conversion kits for the 300M. They say thay're not currently available, but they're releasing new kits all the time. Maybe there's hope. The price on the conversion kits isn't all that bad, $450 for most kits and Club members would get 10% off that price.
Anyway after two weeks of negotiation with the dealer I bought it for $35,100 Canadian which would be about $22,113.00 U.S.It came with the luxury group, chrome wheels, full sized spare,
rain deflectors, mud guards, sun roof and rear spoiler.
Yikes. I know. I'm sure one wood piece that someone could use for their car would net them a fortune big enough to retire! Maybe if they "barter" that would be okay?
fastdriver
www.allpar.com/model/300m-nvh.html
(The audio spec and speaker descriptions for the Infinity II system are about 3/4ths of the way scrolling down the page). Is there a practical way to check the exact frequency output ranges of the various amp feeds to the specific speakers to check this out?
Anyone else notice this or am I just getting old.....???
If one of these things is not the problem he only other thing I could suggest is inserting a piece of plastic in the duct to redirect some of the air flow toward your right foot. I don't think that would be difficult to do.
How much do you think these are actually worth ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600249400&r=0&t=0
I want them, but I dont want to pay too much for em...
It comes down to supply and demand. All cars (not just Chryslers) are cheaper in Canada when discounted for the exchange. The Canadian $ has fallen from around 1.00 down to the low and mid .60's over the last 25 years. That means cars should have gone up by that amount in Canada (before price increases), but my guess is that the automakers felt sales would fall dramatically if they tried to increase prices to those levels. So they seem to use an arbitrary exchange rate (around .75) in setting pricing.
So the U.S. buyer is indeed subsidizing the Canadian buyer! But Canadians are nice guys, eh...
On oversized tires on the stock rims, Bridgestone/Firestone/Dayton called me back after I gave them a hard time on the web site and they recommended not running 245/45ZR-17s on the stock 17x7" rims. They said the same thing as Nitto did about possible bead problems and irregular wear. The dealer was ballistic when I called him about what they said, and I plan to see him tomorrow as we decide if anything good in sizes 235 or 245 will fit the rims. He doesn't care for the Goodrich Scorcher or Comp TAs, says they are trash, and there is not much else except the stock size 225/55-17s that will run on the 7" rims. Bummer. I feel stock size Potenzas coming on.
As a reminder, here is a tire size calculator that shows the size and mph variances of switching sizes.
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Not meaning to offend - but I had no intention of gaining anything from the shifter cover. Just wanted to help out a fellow 300M'er.
I bought a set of Konig Tantrum 17" x 8" wheels along with Goodrich Gforce TA KDW tires in 245/45ZR17 size, mounted and balanced with the road hazard guarantee for a little over $1600, sold my original wheels and 30K mile Goodyears for $550, and the next time I need new tires, I should be able to get another comparable set for a little over $600. So the purchase was easy to rationalize.....it almost made sense to my wife (with the emphasis on ALMOST).
Personally, Im going to find some stock size snow tires (anyone know of any ?), and get some 20's for the good weather
Does anyone know the color coding of the Infinity amp both input and output? I want to upgrade the amp and speakers. Also, can I get to the door speakers and tweeters without removing the entire door panel? Any help here would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Glennbp
Take care,
GlennBP
This site is interesting:
http://www.urethanesupply.com/
http://www.urethanesupply.com/3400.htm
http://www.urethanesupply.com/v4n1.htm
Bumper and Trim Black will probably get rid of those salt stains on the rubber window trim, as well as refinish any discolored black panels that cover the B-pillar...