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I went to Norwood when my tranny went into limp mode. They rented me a car for the day for (I think) only $15 (Neon-I would never buy one of those!), no free loaner. Saab at the same dealer always gave me a free loaner if I booked in advance. I'm really hoping that once the seatback is fixed, I won't be visiting any dealer for repairs for a while.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
They have usually solved my problems with the M but it often takes more than one visit. I usually deal with Ed and he's a pretty good guy and usually tries to please. However, it took me four visits before I could convince him that my seat movement was not normal and that there was a tsb on it. And I was told that my single black power window button (all others were chrome) was normal--"they're all like that." After I told him about the club and Ottoworker, he finally agreed and they replaced it.
On the plus side: They always wash my car unless it's raining. But I usually bring it in extra dirty. Yours may have been too clean to need washing.
Ask for a free oil change for your troubles. They are pretty good about perks for inconvenience.
I was talking to a guy I know who has been working down in Detroit for the last year on the LX cars. He mentioned that he had driven a 300 with a PVO package( SRT-4, SRT-10 and Viper and soon to be SRT-8 ) ,it has some crazy H.P and it goes like stink . I wonder how much more that option will cost. This is the car I am waiting for , the Dodge 4 door sedan with the PVO package.
I sure hope Daimler doesn't destroy the Chrysler brand but it's starting to appear that they might just end up doing that.
I have had several small warranty covered problems, the worst being a failed power steering cooler which was covered under factory warranty. I now have 53k on my 2000M and the only present problems are a whine from the belt area(probably just needs new belts) and a failed door lock actuator (4th one to fail). Other than the aggravating problems with mostly small stuff, its been a very dependable car and still rides, looks, and handles like new. My only out of pocket expenses has been routine oil changes, preventative differential and tranny fluid changes, a passenger mirror that I broke, the eventual replacement of one door lock actuator. I also replaced the rotors due to slight warpage, the brake pads and new tires--all done at 40k. The original pads lasted the longest of any car I have ever owned. I usually go through pads about every 20K, but the originals lasted 40k and were still good for another 10k when I replaced them. I haven't needed to replace the battery yet at 3 years and 53k miles. At least to this point in time, this car has needed the least routine maintenace and repairs of any car I have ever owned.
You might want to consider getting a later model M which may prove to be more dependable.
How's your Sebring holding up? How many miles on it?
I just know my tranny and constant velocity joints are going to explode. You know, I think there are many more problems with this car than those on this board realize....this board consists of enthusiasts who baby the car and probably exceed its maintenance requirements......I think there are many more 300M problems than those reported in this small group. The failures on my car are just incredible....too many to be statistical.
The weather was clear on the return leg, and drove 75, with occasional stretches at 80. No strain, even with a heavy load. Very comfortable and STILL the best looking car on I-45!
Silver
300 Hemi C-I would venture that there aren't any in anyone's garage. For a car to be DOT approved fo the road, it has to go through tone of emission and crash tests. Without those tests, it's illegal to drive it on a US road, although I'm sure that publicity shots would be allowed. Of course a concept car with only 2 or 3 built wouldn't have all the testing done. It's a shame. I'd love to have one. I got to see the Pontiac Banshee in person in 1989 and I would have loved to have that one too! Porsche had that problem back in the late 80's i think it was with the 959 gruppe B series cars. They couldn't get DOT approval so the ones that had already been imported couldn't be driven. That was a shame because the 959 was an incredible automobile!
Pster: My '99M was built 6/99. Other than known issues (two window motors and tranny speed sensor) mine has been rock solid reliable. I don't baby it, but I'm no Fast & Furious guy either. I've been actually a bit surprised and impressed (please, please let it continue this way...!) with the reliability of my domestic, first model year Chrysler. It's about to turn 48,000 miles and, yes, still one of the best looking cars on the road! I'm truly sorry yours has been Christine II (to commiserate, seek out fastdriver). I hope your next ride is a 180 degree turnaround for you, reliability wise.
clpurnell: wasn't there a tsb or recall for the FX seat issue?
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Just a comment on decontenting...in fairness to DC, the decontenting has been accompanied by price reductions. I believe in 2002, the base price of the 300M was reduced over $1,000. It has risen each year since then and I think it is now close to the original base price of the 99. So, while we may be discontent with the decontenting, they have at least reduced the price accordingly...
I remember when Chrysler came out with their "T-Bird" like (4-seater) turbine car. I got to see one in person and get a ride in it. This was back in the early 60's. Someone in a nearby town got to test one for 3 months I believe. Here's a link to an article on one-
http://www.turbinecar.com/sia/sia127.htm
blonda-
I bet pster's 300M was built the same time as Christine. Mine was built in April of 1998. I want to say the 17th- I think it was a Wednesday or Thursday.
fastdriver
Re Mario's: We always have pizza there. Still great! Also the kids like Joe's Crab Shack on the seawall. Passing through Houston (a good idea), we eat at either Foo's Garden in the Village, or Goode Company BBQ.
Regards, Silver
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=175340- &page=2
http://www.detnews.com/2003/insiders/0306/10/b01-189049.htm
fastdriver
I don't remember what it sounded like from a red light, but it DID sound like a jet when it was started. For the times, it was pretty radical looking and indeed a HEAD TURNER like the current 300M was when it first came out in this form in 99.
It does seem like the "concept" cars that Chrysler designs and shows and DOESN'T build, are the ones that everyone wants!! What is their problem? Do they really think that their new station wagon and that ugly new 300 are going to move them UP in the marketplace- hemi or no hemi!!
fastdriver
Just got my 300 out of the shop. They replaced Tie rod ends on both sides and also the steering shaft. Gave me a could not reproduce on the whining at idle. Other than the car being filthy and the alignment off the steering problem is finally fixed. I am at 36008 miles I will probably be trading it very soon as I do not have an extended warranty on it.
They replaced the dash pad -- total cost was $1,200 with labor (they were down to the firewall for replacement).
Shortly after after the replacement, my wife's 2001 developed the same problem on the same place on the dash. When we took it in, it had a slit of only 1" and they tried to patch it. It did not turn out well and the patch was quite noticeable. I tried to get the pad replaced, but they were reluctant to do so. Apparently, they took some heat for replacing mine without the area supervisor's approval. And, apparently they were getting a new area supervisor who would have to approve it. In the meantime, the patch began to buckle upwards and the slit began to reappear. This week, they finally got authorization for replacement and have ordered the pad.
I have never seen this dash problem presented in this forum, but I can't believe it is an isolated problem. For both of our 300M's to have the same problem in exactly the same spot on the dash is just too coincidental. Has anyone else experienced this?
If you do, they should replace it under warranty as the precedent has been set!
Killer pecan pie at GC if you still have room for it. Owner Goode was featured on one of the foodie channels last week, or so.
Regards, Bill
I think it may be a precut airbag seam in the wrong place. Maybe the heat made it buckle enough to come right through the surface of the pad.
To be on the safe side, once my wife's M is repaired, I'll make sure we get sunscreens for both cars.
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat- - - _code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=04830556
Also, I noticed on Edmunds that the TMV for a 2003 Toyota XLE V6 is actually equal to invoice AND they are offering, for the first time I can remember, a $600 cash rebate!!! Wow! Come on Honda, join the deflation wagon!
My concerns about where all the buyers for these increasingly expensive vehicles were going to come from.....is coming true...THERE GOES THE HEMI ON THE 300C - THEY WON'T SELL THAT CAR IF THEY PRICE IT AT $35,000+. NO WAY!
http://www.forbes.com/2003/06/13/cx_zc_0613dcx.html?partner=yahoo- &referrer=
fastdriver
There are people out there that hate leather (or can't have leather) for a number of reasons.
What do you mean by low line/mid line/high-end 300's? All 300M's (in the US and Canada) come with one engine size, one transmission and are all FWD. Other than the special, the cars are all the same except for sun roofs, PHP and interior options. So how is the production divided into the low/mid/high ranges?
Just curious...