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-mike
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About this time next year we'll see the new Trooper:
V8 Isuzu engine
3 True Rows of Seats
Boxy, but a bit curvier.
Hopefully they will retain the 70/30 split doors. We checked out a ton of SUVs there. The new Monty is nice, but pricey, and the Rear door swings the wrong way (toward the curb) and is HUGE compared with the 70% door on the Trooper. Rear seat room was only better in the TLC. Headroom and seating position was far superior than even the TLC, the only one with more headroom than the Trooper was the G-Wagon and Mini-vans and Vans. The Moonroof is also bigger than any other SUV on the market, all the rest seem to have roof vents, not moonroofs.
-mike
The reason for the small selection of colors and interiors is that Isuzu isn't a mass production shop. If you look at the other manufaturers they can provide tons of colors and layouts because they have the economies of scale, whereas the other manufacturers produce more of each color than Isuzu produces of a whole line. I for one know that I'd take any isuzu product over a Jeep, GM or Ford product. Think about it, last week, Exploder recalled the rear glass, they didn't torque the bolts on the rear hinges enough, so they are loose and they cause the glass to break. The front lower control arms are cracking and causing these vehicles to come apart, and last but not least, the Dodge rams have latches that hold the hood down coroding on 750K+ trucks causing the hoods to fly open! Jeep vehicles have a major recall on their front rotors, and durangos have tranny problems from what I've read on edmunds...
Just another case of the american public not opening their eyes...
-mike
In any event, are you writing from Italy or US?
-mike
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-mike
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Paisan:Sounds like you work for Isuzu.
I test drove the Axiom today and was very impressed. I might be able to get used to the seats. Unfortunately, there are no lease deals. I have 6 weeks left on my existing lease so hopefully there will be some financing deal coming up.
The suspension had a great feel, the engine was powerful and quiet and it just felt great.
-mike
-mike
Now, I also drive a BMW 528 and the Axiom doesn't come close to that.
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I would trade in my '96 Trooper on this if my wife would allow it! She however wants a third
row of seats before that will happen.
I like both the interior and exterior treatment of the vehicle.
I have noticed they appear to be moving NOT AT ALL at my local dealer. The first one they got
is still prominantly displayed 5 WEEKS AFTER ARRIVING! In addition to that, here in the
LA area I have not seen one on the road yet!
I am suprised, I sure like what I see. And it would take alot to pry my Trooper away.....
I have been following closely the introduction of Axiom. I have had it for several road tests. I haven't found anything comparable to the Axiom in road handling, ride quality, potential off-road prowess in this price range. Clearly, it's box-section framed truck and that has some drawbacks, but on the other hand multiple benefits as well in off-road capability, longivity and overall structural rigidity.
Considering all of this, it's very surprising to read about other people's experiences that Axiom doesn't appear to move from the lots. I also read the last posting mentioned about the Lafayette meeting with Joe Isuzu where a dignatary mentioned that Axioms are being snatched from the lots. On the West Coast I don't see any sign of it.
I am very much interested in an Axiom. But I am not in a hurry. And despite of being not my primary selection, if there is no financing incentive, I will go to the Trooper because it's a tremendous truck and the LS would cost about $5,000 less than a no-financing Axiom. If the difference is as big, people start thinking, including myself, about the value benefits.
One solution would be to take away the 0% financing of the Trooper or Rodeo, but that would not help the overall sale numbers, or the other solution to offer some financing on the Axiom like 0.9%, 1.9%.
I think the Isuzu brand is way underrated, and as it was mentioned before me, it doesn't fit the Sheep mentality and that may be a contributing factor to poor sales. Pure marketing I don't think will help too much. It wil boil down to numbers.
-mike
Trooper board here to two other in particular
that I consider to be competition, Land Rover and
M Class.
The LR and MB owners are bitching and whining about their trucks falling apart, while the Trooper owners comment on the quality and value of the vehicles and wonder why no one else is buying them.
My Trooper (1996 with 83.5k) is great, but I really like the Axiom. Seems it is "right sized", for what I need anyways. My Trooper is a big fella'.
-mike
-mike
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Does Axiom do this?
-mike
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-mike
-mike