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  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    Why is it that someone get 28 mpg and is very happy while others get 29 mpg and are upset?

    How many people drive their cars the way they are driven (and in the environment they are driven on the tests)for the EPA mileage tests?

    Is good mileage in the eye of the beholder???
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    fdthird, I think comments about MPG vary depending on a person's expectations, and what they're used to from past vehicles. If someone is dumping a gas-guzzling SUV for the more practical roominess of a ZX3, my guess is they will be astounded by the Focus' fuel efficiency. If another ZX3 buyer is coming from a series of 1.5 to 1.8 liter (or smaller) econocars weighing around 2000 - 2200 lbs., they are going to be upset with the ZX3's mileage. I can't account for the reports of Focii getting 40+ MPG, or mileage in the 'teens. As the disclaimer says, "your mileage may vary". Manufacturing variation? Auto vs. manual? Level terrain vs. hills? Hot shoe vs. Aunt Mildred driving styles?... all of the above, then add in factors such as reformulated gas, and you get fuel economy numbers all over the chart.
  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    I must agree with all you say Silver Bullet plus factor in AC use.

    Here in the NY Metro area even suburban driving is a lot more that the city cycle measures. As to highway driving, what do they use 55 mph? Isn't it also done on a dynomomiter in perfect atmospheric conditions?

    You're right too about expectations. Just like our friend at the hatchback board who compared the Focus to an Outback costing thousands more, some peoples' expectations are very different.

    For one, I am happy that on our first trip (with just about 500 miles on the car) we averaged about 29mpg. Considering there were hills, the ac was on, and our speeds were all over the place from 50 to 80, I'm happy.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Comparing the Focus to the Subaru IMPREZA Outback or to the TS, maybe?
    The difference in price would be around $3K.(TS)
    Would I pay extra $3K or even $4K for better quality and performance plus AWD?
    As you see I finally learned something from my Focus experience.
    BTW, prior to the Focus I used to drive: the Moskvich 2140, the Lada 2105, the Ford Pinto, the 3 cyl. Chevy Sprint/Geo Metro.
    Out of those only the Pinto and Moskvich gave me more headaches than the Focus.
  • ckeemckeem Posts: 6
    I am currently looking at a used 2000 Focus wagon, I was quoted $11400 for a 2000 focus wagon with 24,000 miles, automatic, side air bags and ABS. Is this a good price? or should I look some more? Thanks for your response.
  • kebbatkebbat Posts: 41
    Hello All,

    I am a the proud new owner of a Twilight Blue ZX3. Charcoal interior with power, premium, and moonroof. I got it yesterday and I LOVE driving it. I had my last car for a very long time (a major clunker) so going from that to my Z is like night and day.

    Drum Hill Ford in Lowell, MA was fabulous to work with. I'd highly recommend them to anyone in the Boston area. No BS and very friendly, efficient service.

    I got a lot of great information from the various ZX3 boards here - thanks to all of you for so much great information.

  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    Here's hoping you have many fun miles ahead of you - did you get a 5-speed or auto? What is the build date of your car (check the VIN sticker on the driver's door post)? Keep us posted on how your ownership experience goes.
  • kebbatkebbat Posts: 41
    Thanks Silver Bullet

    I don't know the VIN off the top of my head, but I believe the "born on date" is December, as the dealer had the same model but in Pitch Black that was $200 cheaper than my Twilight Blue. The reason for the difference was the black car was made in September and after that there was a minor price increase.

    I chose a 5 speed as I basically just prefer manual over automatic. The only time that might not be true is if I were stuck in Boston traffic on a regular basis. Since I live and work in the 'burbs I don't worry about that. I also thought that the engine might be too slow to suit me using an automatic transmission.

    I'm at about 350 miles now after my first weekend with the car. So far, I love driving it. I find the car to be very quiet while idling (I've read lots of posts to the contrary). It does make a bit of noise on the highway, but to be honest my radio is usually turned up so loud that I can't hear any "outside" noise.

    My friends/family/coworkers were all very surprised to see what my focus looked like. I think they were all expecting something a bit "cheaper" looking since I had been raving about what an excellent deal I got. The first thing out of their mouths was "I can't believe how much room there is in here." The next thing was "this is NICE".

    Here's hoping my love affair lasts a long long time.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    When I got my ZX3 (silver with medium graphite interior and a 5-speed), my fiancee said the same two things :) She had just purchased a new 2000 VW Passat, and actually preferred my Focus. To make a long story short, she sold the Passat and I sold her my ZX3 - she still loves the car, and really enjoys the extra $9K she was able to put back in the bank.
  • petedopetedo Posts: 27
    I own a yellow 5 spd with the premium group added. It has about 600 miles on it now and I'm lovin it. Mine was "born" in November. It gets positive responses from everyone that looks at it. I've seen a few other Foci around but noone ever waves. We need to get something going with that.
  • kebbatkebbat Posts: 41
    .....or should I say Non-ZX3 Focus drivers tend to look at my car with a "why didn't I get that one?!?!" look.

    I'm almost at 500 miles - tomorrow will be 1 week of ownership. I have a problem though ... I fear I'm being a bit obsessive about keeping the car clean. Every night after work I'm doing something to the interior or exterior - my neighbors think I'm a nut. My serious problem is there is SO much information here on how to properly wash/wax your car that I'm worried I'll make the wrong choice and end up with a messed up paint job. I've read everything I can think of and am still concerned that I'm going to make a mistake.

    My current plan is to hand wash the car using Meguires, dry using a synthetic chamois (I belive it's Absorption or Absorb or something similar to that) and then apply Meguires #26 and then Meguire's #34 (Final Inspection). I'll let you know how I make out.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    Drying the car is much easier if you use a California Water Blade first, then follow it with old 100% cotton towels or an Absorber. Your other products picks should work well - just stay away from machine buffers unless you have been trained how to use them. Check out for more tips than you'll ever need... and don't worry about what the neighbors think, they're just jealous :)
  • sourgirl77sourgirl77 Posts: 2
    Hi I'm getting a ZX3 soon as my first car! I rarely ever drive, so I'm hoping this car won't be that hard! I'm excited about owning this car, I want it in Silver - but we'll have to see since I think we have to order it because our dealer doesn't have side inpact bags on none of the cars in the lot! :(

    Does anyone know where I can get some cool accessories?
  • kebbatkebbat Posts: 41
    Congratulations .... I'm a bit of a "new gal" myself. My ZX3 is been parked in my driveway for 1 week and I love it. :)

    I'm not sure what you mean about the car being "too hard". Are you getting a manual without being experience, or are you just in general an inexperienced driver? I would say that the ZX3 is pretty easy as far as shifting goes .... the clutch is great and it's really easy to get into gear. I find the steering to be very responsive and the brakes seem just fine to me. I think you'll find it's a great car to drive.

    If you have your heart set on CD Silver and your particular dealer doesn't have it, look around! You don't want to end up driving a color you don't really like, especially since you'll be looking at it every day.

    Good Luck!
  • sourgirl77sourgirl77 Posts: 2
    Well I'm just kinda inexperienced since I hardly ever drive. All the reviews say it's a "fun" car to drive.... I can't wait to get mine, I'm going today to dicker with the salesman. I don't want any other color than Silver, all the other colors I don't like. Thanks!

  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Want to make your buying experience as pleasant as it could be?

    Use the X-plan and save in the process.

    If your dealer accepts the X-plan, ask to see a copy of the invoice. Also, the X-plan price is a no haggle, very fair price

    Don't allow yourself to be intimidated by the salesman. You HAVE to bypass them and go directly to the fleet manager or its equivalent.

    Have fun!

  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
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  • tgrcubtgrcub Posts: 22
    it's day 3 of life as a Focus owner, and I'm still on a giddy new car induced high... had been driving a big beastly Acura Legend which finally needed to be humanely put down ( oh, the memories when it came time to let her go )... this car is so much fun to drive, that darned if I just didn't create a few chores that necessitated my leaving work early to enjoy drives in the fine spring weather up here in NH... :)
  • njzx3njzx3 Posts: 170
    so this is where everyone is posting now... been a long time, how goes it everyone?!
  • njzx3njzx3 Posts: 170
    Hey everyone, some of you may remember from a ways back, but for those of you who dont... I bought my Twilight Blue, Fully Loaded Z just over a year ago now and to this day I love it to death. I havent had any problems with it (except for the MAF Sensor crappin out a week after i got the car... but that was an easy fix... the dealer experience is another story...) When I first bought my Z, I had a lot of "dreams" i guess you could call them, about doing some aftermarket work to my baby... well, I'm well on my since that time... this is what I've added and or bought and have yet to install:

    -Kenwood CD/MP3 Headunit
    -Dual Fusion Encounter 10" Subs
    -Power Acoustic Gothic 540watt Amp

    -Window Tint
    -->Accent strip on windshield
    -->3 Rear windows
    -Clear Side Markers
    -Xenon Full Facia ground effects kit (to be installed)

    -Borla Catback Exhaust System (to be installed)
    -Ice-Man Cold Air Intake (to be installed)
    -Progress Sport Springs (1.8" Drop) (to be installed)

    WHEELS/TIRES: -Primax 618 17x7 wheels
    -Falken FK-04-GRB 204x40x17 Tires
    -Chrome Locking Lugs
    -->3 of one pattern 1 different per wheel

    all the work should be completed within the next few weeks... the springs, intake and exhaust won't be a problem... the body kit hasnt been painted yet, im still looking for a good body shop to do it for me...

    anyways, glad to see that you all are all still around and enjoying your Z's as much s I am!! and welcome to those of you I dont know...

  • For the past 12 years I have used economy cars to commute 40 miles each way to work. I had 2 used colts and then in 1996 I bought a new 1995 aspire. It was the last on the lot and with a $600 rebate I paid $6900 for it. Aside from replacing the center exhaust pipe, it only required routine maintenance. I just sold it 3 days ago for $1700. Let me add that I am 6'5 and 230 pounds. With the seat reclined back 1 notch, my head just cleared the roof even though the aspire has more leg and head room than many larger cars. My new ZX3 has more than 4 inches of head clearance! It has an outstanding amount of cabin space.
    My ZX3 was the last on the lot. I bought it 10-19-01. It is black with power and premium groups. Since I got the 0% financing for 5 years, they wouldn't go below invoice but I feel I got a good deal. It drives like a sports car. Of course going from an aspire (hey I liked it !) to a focus doubled my hp too but I really notice the difference in comfort now. The only regret I
    have is losing the 42 mpg that the aspire delivered. I think I am averaging 28-30 with the focus so far. Will keep you posted !
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hey you guys don't have an events area or I would have posted it there :)

    Just wanted to invite you guys to join the Tri-state group of Subarus from to join us for a Drive-a-thon. We are driving 48hrs, 1200miles from NYC->Newark, DE->Philadelphia->Pittsburg->Buffalo->Rochester->Albany->Nyack, NY on a weekend in January to raise money for the WTC relief fund. Details are at or e-mail me for details.


  • fgaydosfgaydos Posts: 319
    I feel there is too much money being raised and it is not being accounted for properly. Did you know the head of the Red Cross gets $400,000.00 a year?
    Not many realize it is a for profit company.
    Besides, there are Millions already out there and the folks involved cannot get it.
    Then there is the lady sueing the goverment because she thinks 3 million is not enough!?
    It is way out of control.
    When my parents died no one offered me money. Stuff happens, deal with it.
  • jazx3jazx3 Posts: 3
    I purchased my Sangria Red ZX3 in June 2000 (mfr May 2000): dark charcoal seats, manual, ABS, side impact airbags, speed control/tilt steering, AC & power windows/mirrors. The odometer currently reads over 56,800 km (35,500 m).

    I moved to this vehicle after leasing an Olds Aurora (3 years) and owning a Buick Century (14.5 years). I got the full Ziebart protection with 50% window tint and intend to keep the car for at least another 12-15 years.

    I averaged 36 mpg on a trip to Florida last year; upshifting early and not trying to always win an Indy race does it. However, I like speeding up and merging at cars speed on entering highways and find the ZX3 is only slower than the Aurora (with its V-8) by a few tenths of second.

    While the Aurora had an unnerving tendency to sway sideways over bumps, the focus just glides over them, isn't as plush but has almost the same seating space, more headroom, more practical space, and is more than 3 feet shorter.

    I had all the recalls done and get it serviced every 5000 km. The car is wonderful and the 4 season tires have a good grip in snow although I may consider moving to Michelin Pilot XGT H4 at some point. I have driven front-wheel drive cars for over 33 years (3 of which on sandy African roads) only with 4-season tires with very little problems.

    It does not compare to the smooth and road holding capability of the Citroën ID I once had but I have never encountered one that did anyway.

    Good to connect and I will be pleased to exchange on tips and ideas.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    The Ford Focus ZX3 club has been edited to include all owners of Ford Focus.

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  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    Last week, Edmunds rolled out new pricing pages. Along with this is a new "consumer ratings & reviews". This functionality lives in the "consumer opinions" area of the new vehicle detail page, and allows users to rate a vehicle on a number of different criteria (1 to 10 scale), as well as add his/her own free-form comments.

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  • Hi there! I'm the proud owner of a 2002 Liquid Grey (love that color) Focus ZX3 in the Pacific NW. My older car was a '88 volkswagen fox so the mileage is worse but the upgrade was worth it. I've gotten several thumbs up on the car (which never happened in the VW, wonder why?) and the 4 passenger test passed with flying colors. I still haven't taken the engine above 5000 RPM yet as I only have 2200 miles on it but the engine seems to want to :) Happy motoring!

  • (I'm new here, and first posted this to Wagons/Newcomers. Hope it's OK to post here, too!).

    My name is Nancy and I live in Southern California, in the foothill area north of
    Glendale and west of Pasadena . This looks like a great group to hang out with!

    On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 I became the proud owner of a new 2002 Ford Focus
    ZTW Wagon. My 2000 Explorer was coming off lease on the 26th, and I wanted to
    downsize so the Focus wagon seemed perfect.

    So far, I *love* it! It's the Sangria Red (my first red car!) with gray leather. It's pretty
    loaded; about all it doesn't have is a sunroof and the "Advance Track" traction
    control system.

    Want to hear something funny? For the last two-three weeks, my boyfriend and I
    have been independently searching the 'net, reading reviews, checking prices, etc.
    as we each tried to decide what to buy. I was replacing my Explorer, and he was
    replacing a 1995 Escort Wagon that was beginning to have one problem after
    another (at 128k, that's probably not surprising).

    Anyway, we *both* narrowed it down to one car: the 2002 Focus ZTW Wagon! He
    bought his on Saturday, and it's the Twilight Blue. Other than color, both cars are
    identically equipped. We both got our respective Focii (sp?) for just under 20k,
    including the alarm system. We feel it's a *very* nice car for the money.
    Comfortable, solid, holds the road like a pro, adequate get-up-and-go, and looks
    good to boot (in our opinion, anyway ;-) As far as reliability, time will tell. We figure
    after two years most of the bugs should be ironed out, and if not, we have the
    warranty to take care of any problems that might arise.

    I can't wait to take a picture of them (and us) side-by-side :-)

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