Jaguar X-Type

jagboyxtype · September 2003

They could call them MY 2016's if they wanted to, but Jaguar doesn't - or at least has not thus far - labeled its cars with model years much more than half a year ahead, as opposed to a full year ahead as some other manufacturers do, which I for one feel is a rediculous practice anyway (if you didn't catch the hyperbole at the beginning of this far-too-long sentence) :-) The magazines note that the new front end styling on the Chrysler Sebring convertibles is a 2004 change, despite it having been out since the early months of 2003 - I guess Chrysler uses the leap-ahead model year designations, but I count those as mid-year 2003 changes. All of the mentioned changes and additions to the X-type are for the 2004 model year, however, according to Jaguar's slightly more reality-accurate year-labeling system.

ENGINES

The 2.5 liter is not being phased out entirely. Jaguar, however, wishes to divide X-type sales with 75% or so being 3.0 liters, as that engine is the more spectacular of the two in terms of the driving experience (currenly 75% of X-types are sold with the 2.5 liter engine). In whatever the future holds, Jaguar is to start utilizing the engine blocks from Volvo when the current blocks (both V8 and V6) are no longer applicable for upgrades through the years. A 3.5 liter version of the current AJ-V6 is speculated, but may not come about before the switch to Volvo-based engines in the future. The reviews have just started noting how good the current engines really are, with much praise being showered upon the V6's of late (mostly the 3.0). That Jaguar can get 250 horsepower out of its 3.0 liter engine is quite a feat, as Mercedes gets only 215 out of its 3.2 liter V6, Audi 225 from its 3.0 liter, BMW 225 from its 3.0 liter (235 with the new performance package), Lexus 215 from its 3.0 liter and 225 from its new 3.3 liter, Infiniti and Acura 260 - just 10 more horsepower from engines with half a liter more displacement each than the Jaguar engine, and Cadillac 220 from its 3.2 liter 6. More horsepower is always a benefit, and it should be able to boost the X-type's already top-end of its class quickness even higher. The 227 hosepower 3.0 liter in my car allows it to act like a rocket, especially compared to the other normally-aspirated Jags, and the magazines have all been commenting on how the X-type 3.0 has "great legs" (C&D 10/03) and an engine that gets "universal praise," (R&T 03) so 23 more horsepower will be felt in their nano-second measuring tests. 6.3 seconds to 60 is the time for the 250 horsepower engine to beat. Plus, the 250 horsepower X-types have new sport suspensions and will have the 6-speeds, which will make them more fuel efficient, smoother, and probably add to their quickness. Jaguar is just doing what it takes to keep every generation Born to Perform.

toofragus · September 2003

Jagboyxtype,
If the figures that have been bouncing around are correct, a 2.5 with Automatic, Premium Pkg. and moonroof would cost as much or MORE than the 3.0 which has all of these features as standard. I don't believe that 2.5 sales will even reach 25%, maybe 10% for those who want a good lease deal on a 2.5 manual with no options.
I know we're both just speculating. Hit me back if you feel my conclusions are off.

JAG

howiec · September 2003

bft4x4 Aug 23, 2003 6:16pm
I know it's kind of late on replying to this subject. But, I just found this discussion board today. Anyway, here is the lease deal I got from Crown Jaguar at St. Pete, FL on August 28, 2003:
2003 X-Type 2.5 Automatic w/Platinum metallic paint
$301 + $22 tax per month for 48 months
12,000 miles per year, $0.12 per extra mile
$2,300 down including first month payment.

mmm17 · September 2003

Does anyone know if the 2004 X-Type will have 2 front seat cup holders and voice activated controls for the navigation? I currently own a 2000 Acura TL and I've been waiting to replace this car with the new 2004 TL. The feed back I've been getting from 2 dealerships is that the car will be selling for full sticker price and cars with navigation might not be available until December or later. I've decided to look for an alternate car, I need front wheel drive and navigation and duel front seat cup holders (both my wife and I are coffee drinkers). The X-type sounds like it could fit my needs IF the 2 cup holders are out. The Jaguar website does show or say anything about the cup holders or voice controls, any of you jag owners can shed some light?

tincup47 · September 2003

I just bought a 2003 X-Type 2.5 and it has the dual front cupholders. I don't have the NAV system so cannot say about that.

jonty12 · September 2003

in short, yes. the 2004 x-type meets both your requirements (though it has awd not fwd).

msiseng · September 2003

First of all, I love my X-Type and the service associated with ownership. Owning the problem child Infinity G35 is a chore. Infinity is also royal pain when it comes to service (if you can call it that). Infinity will go to great lengths to NOT fix issues. Jaguar, on the other hand, bends over backwards to retain customers. Jaguar now has me, and I am sure others, hooked for life. The entry level X-Type is doing a good job.

I am glad to see Jaguar slowly phasing-out the 2.5L. It is simply weak and under powered. I cannot wait to get rid of my lease for a quicker Jaguar. When Dodge Neons beat the 2.5L at a stoplight, it is time for a new car.

The 2.5L is the only thing I would change. Why would anyone want the 2.5L now if the 3.0L is more economical?

Do you think Jaguar marketing thought of this before offering the deap discounts?

desertguy · September 2003

I would agree on your comments for the most part. The reason for the large number of sales for the 2.5 is the ridiculous difference in price between it and the 3.0. Jaguar is snagging many first time buyers with the ad campaign for the low lease rates. When they get to the dealer they find it is for the 2.5. I had a '03 2.5 loaner with 1500 miles on it and drove it about 250 miles. Not that underpowered but I was glad to get back into my 3.0. And BTW, the Dodge Neon will beat a lot of cars 0-60. They are a fast econo car. The new Neon SRT-4 will beat the 3.0 handily with a 0-60 time of 6.2 seconds.

xjag4me · September 2003

I read the complimentary service being offered is once every 10k miles or 12 months between oil/filter changes.

Is that right/recommended?
I thought oil changes should be every 3k miles or 3 months or at least every 6k miles.
I dont anticpate 10k miles in 1 year.

msiseng · September 2003

The Dodge Neon SRT-4 is fast. It is just embarrassing when it can beat a Jaguar hands-down. Jaguars are known for performance, right? My Infinity G35 blows away (performance only) the S-Type 4.0 which I find sad given the ENORMOUS price differential. Granted, it is the same Front-Midship (FM) racing engine used in five other Nissan/Infinity vehicles (Altima 3.5, Maxima 3.5, 350Z, I35 and the FX). Disclaimer: In the future, I will gladly pay for this differential due to Jaguar service and the Jaguars' aesthetic qualities.

Jaguar offers the 10K service for free. If you let the oil go that long, your engine WILL build sludge. Lexus used to recommend this service interval and now has to take back many leased "sludge" cars. "Sludge Car" is the technical term the Lexus dealers now use. What about the people who own? Well, they are stuck with expensive engine repairs. How do I know this? Well, an acquaintance is a chief mechanic for Lexus and tells horror stories. Lexus did their customers a disservice and now Jaguar is doing the same.

Even if you do not drive 10K miles in one year, change the oil every six months to be safe.

I had the Jag oil changed at 4K miles to be safe even if the car is leased. The cost was an appalling $49.00 at the dealer. However, the dealer performed a lot of free maintenance, replaced a defective tire and performed a mini-detail, so the price is palatable. Love this service!

Question: Are both the 2.5L and the 3.0L made is Cleveland, Ohio? Does Ford make the S-Type engines in the states or in England?

cjs2002 · September 2003

just my preference... I've always changed my oil every 3-4K which comes out to be 1 every 3-5 months depends on what I'm doin.... my dad just blew up the engin in his malibue cause he hasn't had the oil changed once and it a 99... AHAHAHAHAHAHAH and he blames me for it... well anyways... to answer the next question yes I do believe both engine types of the X type are made 40 mins from my house in clevland... as to the S type I thought that was still made overseas but I believe it will be switching plants to here with the comming of the 04 X types so I'm gonna take a stab at half way through 2004 the S types engines will start being made in cleveland... have fun... and by the way I'm considering a used S type now instead of a new X type... any suggestions or words of warning on them...? thankx

msiseng · September 2003

Do you really want a Rear Wheel Drive (RWD) vehicle living in Cleveland? You may want to rethink that one as the S Type is RWD or did Ford change to All Wheel Drive (AWD) in '04?

I test drove both, got the X-Type and am very happy with the AWD performance on wet pavement. Got me through the Washington, DC Blizzard last year. Also test drove the S Type against the G35 and made the mistake of a buying the Japanese RWD G35. Already looking to trade this for the S Type-R.

I much prefer the 4.0 S Type to the 3.0. The 3.0 reminds me too much of the Lincoln. They share the same engine and platform and the Lincoln is far less expensive.

kssod · September 2003

Go x-type go!!! It was just awsome this past winter in cleveland. Strongly reccommend the DSC which is now a separate option with almost all packages. Only real contender now is the new G-35 AWD, on sale in Dec. Service at Infiniti is not up to Jag standard, but it may not have as many gremlins as my 02

mmm17 · September 2003

OK, so now that I know the X-Type has 2 front cup holders and voice activated navigation, I'm ready to cross shop it against the 2004 Acura TL. I find it interesting that no one on the Jag web site mentions the Acura TL as an X-Type competitor. What are your thoughts on an Acura TL vs. the Jaguar X-Type? Also, I'll be leasing a fully optioned 3.0 X-Type, can any one share what their lease payment are?

msiseng · September 2003

My friend has the new Acura and it is very nice. However, can you say front-end torque? Recent year TLs are plagued with transmission problems and Acura does little to fix these. You are taking a big chance. Read the Edmunds.com Acura boards. There are a lot of unhappy Acura owners. As this board seems to attract unhappy people, take this with a grain of salt.

The AWD G35 will be nice as the engine is outstanding. Infinity is doing nothing to boost engine power to compensate for the AWD extra weight. Infinity receives praise for keeping the current RWD G35 weight low. Now they are changing this by adding inches to an already lean waist. It will be interesting to see what the astute Edmunds.com reviewers say. After all, they did not give the X-Type a good review which baffles me.

Why does Edmunds not solicit input from real-world drivers? Maybe their reviews would be more objective?

The G35 interior is cheap and the car has front brake problems that Infinity will not fix. The paint chips, the CD changer eats CDs like Roseanne Barr eats donuts and the rear brakes fail to illuminate in many G35s (a recall Infinity was reluctant to issue until the government forced their hand). Once you deal with Infinity Service, you may buy Jaguars for life. You are merely a number. That is, they could care less about future business unlike Jaguar. All this from a "luxury" manufacturer?

My vote is for the X-Type with the Infinity G35 blazing engine! One can dream, right?

desertguy · September 2003

msiseng:

You continually trash Infinity service. Could it just be your particular dealer? After all, they were designed to compete with Lexus when the division was formed. Lexus of course is noted for their great service. Just curious. I have not heard such bad things about Infinity before but I have no experience with them. I recently rented a new Maxima with 3K on the odo and talk about torque steer. If you accelerated while turning a corner, you better have a firm grip on the wheel as it tries to rip it from your hands. You can't compare a fwd car with a rear or awd car.

msiseng · September 2003

Everything with Infinity is a fight. They do not fix anything until a recall or a technical service bulletin (TSB) is issued. Then, when they try to fix a problem, it is never right. You have to go back two to three times. Some people are on their fifth CD player or second set of brakes and rotors under 15K miles. Not to mention the driver's seat falls off the track and Infinity takes two months to order new parts.

Oh, the a/c units fail within 5K miles and Infinity must order these parts. The paint chips on most G35s and Infinity blames the wind. These problems are COMMON. Read the Infinity Board posts. This was Motor Trend Car of the Year? What were they smoking? Maybe they will work out the issues in '04 much like the X-type differences between '02 and '03?

There is one excellent Infinity dealer in my area: Passport Infinity in Alexandria, VA. Unfortunately, it is a long way from my home in MD. The two other dealers close to my home are terrible to hell-like.

Infinity compete with Lexus..not a chance. I owned a Lexus and service was great across all dealers. A good deal can be soured with bad service. The savvy car buyer knows better.

The FWD Maxima and the FWD Altima 3.5 share the same engines and they both have terrible torque steer. They both share the same engine with the RWD G35 and the RWD 350Z. While the engines are the exact same, Nissan/Infinity reports they have different horsepower ratings. One chief mechanic tells me differently, but who really knows? I just think it is good marketing. That is one thing the Japanese do well: market.

I am so happy with Jaguar service compared to Infinity. My dealer, Manhattan Jaguar in Rockville, MD is wonderful. If my service advisor ever quits, I will sue the dealership for pain and suffering for making me switch advisors. When you have a good service advisor, make sure he/she stays put!

Again, I must add the Infinity is fun to drive and it is scary fast. If Jaguar puts a comparable engine in a 33K car, watch out!

riez · September 2003

Not trying to be pedantic, but the misspellings are driving me nuts...

Just as brakes are not breaks, so too is Infiniti not Infinity.

Infiniti G35. Infiniti I35. Infiniti Q45. Etc.

xjag4me · September 2003

My new X-type is due soon.
From other experiences with initial quality, things that go wrong early, does anyone have any suggestions for things to pay special attention to when having the walkaround with the salesman?
e.g. any particular fittings typically loose or not flush?

TIA

desertguy · September 2003

Infinity = a big OK with my spell checker.

) It also shows you how much attention I pay to that car I guess.

geecheewheels · September 2003

I have had 2 Infinitis, J30 & Q45. In MY area the Infiniti service beat Jag hands down. Where the two are different is sales. That's why I walked out after trying to buy a G35 and went straight to Jag and drove home in an X that day.

My parents, brother and 2 friends have Infinitis in different cities, and their service is inconsistent.

I must say, recently I have noticed a distinct improvement in my Jag service. As the market becomes more competitive, perhaps dealers are realizing the one area the truly have control over when it comes to customer satisfaction is service.

mmm17 · September 2003

I find it interesting that you mentioned how nasty the posting are on the Acura board, do this car attract that kind of people? My 2000 TL has had its share of problems, the transmission broke but was replaced under warranty after a 4 week wait. Good thing my dealer included a loaner Acura Integra. Also, the car has had many rattle and I only get approx. 18k out of the brake pads. I am mostly concerned about the dealer greed for the new 2004 TL, my dealer has been very forthcoming on details about the car but is tight lipped about pricing. A sales person at the dealership said the car will sell for full sticker. Its interesting that you own an Infinity G35, I looked at that car but just felt the interior was cheap and plasticy inside. Everyone seems to rave about Jaguar service, does Jaguar provide a loaner for all service? Currently I have to practically beg to get a loaner from my Acura dealer.

Kirstie_H · September 2003

You'll find members in every discussion who are not satisfied with their vehicle and/or service, but you have to remember that complaints are often more common than praise. You just have to weed through posts and determine which problems are more likely to be isolated to the particular car or dealership, and which problems are mentioned enough to amount to a trend!

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

cjs2002 · September 2003

I understand the whole situation with the cd units on the G35.. and frankly most of it is because people keep putting on the sticker lables onto the cds and use cheap cd rs for burning... if people read the packages for the cd lable making things you'd notice that it says it may cause some cd players to jam... ie DON'T PUT LABLE ON CDS even though its a pain to some it saves you from changing out the decks ... my neighbor uses CD Rs w/o lables and he hasn't had one problem... as for the brakes on the G... well I don't know... and frankly don't care... they work and they work darn well at that... I don't live in clevland I live in streetsboro... which is out by hudson ohio... and truthfully our roads are normally fine... you just have to make shir you don't drive like an idiot... I have a 96 explorer which is RWD and I've never had a problem. I like the X type and the S type... and I like the G... the S I'd only buy used cause I can't afford a new one... as for the X or the G I'd lease(new) them probably.. I appriciate everyones comments... I was just worried Id heard a lot of bad things about the X when it first came out(engin troubles, trans trouble ect) but apparently Jag has fixed these issues... or at least I hope they did... any other comments or suggestions are welcome... I have to decide and soon...

spectre96 · September 2003

Hello all,

In the X-Type in Europe, there is an 2.0 inline 4 cylinder engine available, with 130hp. Weird, in an Jaguar!!!

What do you guys think of that?

riez · September 2003

spectre96... Makes sense. Economics of buynig and owning a car in UK and EU. Doesn't petrol cost about $5-6 per gallon in England? Thought they had some of the highest petrol prices in EU. $3-5 per gallon throughout most of Europe? Thinking about 40 percent of all new European cars are diesel. They need them due to the very high automobile and fuel taxes. Diesel taxed lower in most European countries. USA will start getting more diesels in 2005 and later as we remove sulphur from our diesel fuel.

rea98d · September 2003

Putting a 4-cylinder in a Jag just seems evil. IIRC, this would be Jag's first 4-cylinder since the old SS cars wouldn't it?

msiseng · September 2003

Some of your corrections are, in fact, incorrect. In Japan, "Infiniti" is spelled "Infinity" as in the "Infnity Skyline." Both are correct according to a company spokesperson I called today. The American magazines spell it one way and the Japanese spell it differently.

Moreover, you make spelling mistakes. It is "buying" and not "buynig." Your grammar is horrible and you use words out-of-context.

Those in glass houses should not throw stones, especially on a Jaguar message board where the population appears to be highly intelligent.

I agree with everyone..a 2.0 4-cylinder in a Jag? And a smelly diesel like the old Mercedes? Instead of being compared to the Ford Taurus, people could compare this to the Mercury Mystique. Say it ain't so! I am silently screaming (oxymoron) as I thought Jag is adding more powerful engines to this already awesome vehicle?

riez · September 2003

msiseng... fyi. You might check out their own web sites:

USA: www.infiniti.com

Canada: www.infiniti.ca

Infiniti is a subsidiary of Nissan, like Lexus is of Toyota or Acura is of Honda. I'm not sure if Nissan even sells Infiniti outside North America. (Thought I read recently Toyota was finally going to market Lexus in Japan and elsewhere.)

pat · September 2003

If we had a requirement for correct spelling and proper grammar usage, we'd have a whole lotta trouble on our hands!

Let's not worry too much about any of it as long as we understand the meaning of the message, okay folks? And if we don't understand the meaning, it's easy enough to ask.

desertguy · September 2003

This should get a chuckle: Sent to me by a friend.

As a former teacher of English, this, to me, is amazing...

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pat · September 2003

LOL! I can't say I read it totally wouthit porbelm but that is amazing, indeed.

landsteam · September 2003

I think the 04 with the sport package is a great deal. For $2500 more you get .
But are they going to make a 250 hp with a 6sp at any time soon? I want the best one I can get. Should I wait to see if the changes will happen?
X2 Sport Package :
 Body Colored Front Surround Grille .
 Body Colored Bumper Blades .
 Body Colored Trunk Lid Mounted Spoiler .
 Black Side Window Surrounds .
 Wheels: 18 in. x 7.5 in. Forged Alloy (Aruba) .
 Tires: 225/40ZR18 Pirelli PZero (Nero)
Low Profile tires with 225mm width, 18.0" rim .
 Sport Tuned Suspension .
 Dynamic Stability Control .
 Xenon Headlamps w/Automatic Leveling .
 Front Sports Style Seats .
 Perforated Leather Seat Trim .
 Leather Trimmed Steering Wheel .
 Alpine Premium Sound System w/Single CD w/XY & XZ.
 Includes body colored trunk lid plinth..

cjs2002 · September 2003

question... is it better to get a 2.5 with the auto, sunroof, power mem. seat package or is it better to just get a base 3.0 X... which is cheaper?

toofragus · September 2003

According to the brochure, you can't get the 2.5 with the power memory seat package. The only options available on the 2.5 are auto, moonroof/fold seat, and heated seats.

The 3.0 is only $3,000 more and includes auto and the moonroof/fold seat. It would appear that the price is very close and you may as well get the bigger engine.

s852 · September 2003

Is the 250HP version with the six-speed automatic transmission supposed to be the new standard 3.0 engine or will that be a higher-priced option or a "sport model?"

mmm17 · September 2003

I went to my local Boston area Jaguar dealership to look at the new 2004 X-Type but I was told by the dealership that the 2004 isn't out yet and they didn't have any information/details on the car. I was supprised because I thought some people have posted that they purchased an '04 X-Type. I was thinking that the dealer was trying to sell off the '03's because the 04 has more standard equipment at a lower price. Any one have thoughts on this?

toofragus · October 2003

The jaguar.com site has the 2004 X-Type prices. There is no mention of a 6 speed. It could come later in the model year or not at all.

kssod · October 2003

I've specked out a 04 replacement for my 02 and the price is about 5k less than what my current car stickered for. (02 3.0 sport with premium, xenons alpine and winter package) the only thing the 04 lacks is the headlight washers. JAG has discontinued my current adriatic blue which I have gotten an amazing number of compliments on, and is not offering the sport with the new radiance red (metallic). Does anyone know if there is a custom paint order available? The value of the 3.0 is great compared to the past. The interior has been upgraded with wood on the doors and chrome on the speakers which was lacking on the 02 and 03 sport. I do not know if there are memory seats , this would certainly be nice, and I haven't seen anything on the Jag website discussing the custom interior materials. Does anyone know when the second production run starts? This would be when I'd expect the 250hp and 6 speed to be offered. I'd expect the 6 speed auto would equal my current manual in accel. times.

s852 · October 2003

When the 250 HP version comes, will all 3.0 motors have that standard from that point on or will it be only on the Sport model?
Since V6 Nissan Altimas and Accords now have 240HP, I hope it is standard and not just on the Sport model.

s852 · October 2003

For those of you who plan to keep the car past the included factory warranty coverage, what have the dealers been charging for 6 or 7 year Jaguar factory extended warranties with full bumper to bumper coverage (like factory warranty) and no deductible for 100,000 miles?
Is there a web site with listings of all the available Jaguar extended warranty coverage details?

mmm17 · October 2003

MY wife & I test drove the 2004 jaguar X-Type, the local dealer had one in stock. There are no memory seats available

but there are 2 front seat cup holders now:) I really liked the car HOWEVER my wife preferred the new 2004 Acura TL so we put a deposit on the new TL. Too bad, I was really looking forward to that all wheel drive.

cjs2002 · October 2003

I haven't seen or driven a 3.0 X type but I was just talking to my sales person and they informed me that the 04 are out or will be at the dealor soon and the've been lowered in base price... I'm rather intrigued by this. I'm truely debating between the X and the G35 now.... anyways a little of subject , but do ya'll think that Jaguar will ever make a cross over sport ut... I think it'd be great but highly doubt I could afford it...

jonty12 · October 2003

http://www.highresautoimages.com/jaguar/rd6.html

this was a concept at this year's frankfurt autoshow. it won't make it to showrooms in this form, but may "inspire" future models.

as for the 04's, yes, they're arriving at dealers (saw one last week). There is a $3K+ price drop, with $2K+ additional standard equipment.

cjs2002 · October 2003

well thats rather interesting... but I don't think it'll come out anytime soon... actually I'm rather excited about getting a car and the closer I get the more I love the look, feal, prestiece that comes with owning a Jag. I'm just trying to decide if the power of the G is worth it (plus I can get it for a bit cheaper as well with the same options)

mjc440 · October 2003

I saw a posting in the Subara / Legacy website which stated that the G35 AWD was only active below? 19 mph - above that it was RWD.

If this is true, then it would seem that the Jag's full-time system is better.

ivyfchu · October 2003

I currently own a FX35 and I just test drove a G35 and I have to say I am disappointed with the G. First the G does not feel as fast as advertised. Second, the interior is very cheesy. I am glad that I bought the FX instead of the G. I also thought about the Jag X type before buying the FX. The only thing I don't like about the Jag is the price and the rear room. Now that they lower the price for the Jag and if rear room is not a problem for you, I recommend you to go with the Jag.

cjs2002 · October 2003

thanks... rear room isn't my biggest worrie but the G does have more get up and go than the X, and since I can't drive manual I really can't judge it from that aspect. actually I like the FX35 but can't afford the payments on it so its just sortta one of those hey wow look at that... anyways I'm getting closer to my decision and MB C class is begining to look like a better compeditor to the X than the G. I just feel cramped when I sit inside the C230 sedan. to make it short I've changed the line up again

so I'm getting more excited about going with my father to make the final decision... any input I'd love to hear it....

msinghv · October 2003

My mother is seriously considering an I35 (she likes the style, conservative driving feel and value - esp considering the current incentives and good deals to be had - can proabably land the car for about $26 to $27K). However, I just noticed that Jag currently has a $7500 manuf to dealer incentive on the X-type 3.0 until the end of this month. This puts it at about $29 to $30K with the options we want.

I think the X-type may be a great car, but I'm concerned about reliability and resale value. I'll go back and read the previousposts on reliability, but which car would you choose? Also, why such a huge incentive? Are they not selling well? If they're not, why not, they seem to be a great car.

Thanks for any help.

jonty12 · October 2003

the incentives are on 03's. the 04's are arriving, and the msrp is $3K+ lower than the 03's with $2K+ extra standard equipment. that alone adds up to about $5K of the incentive. combine that with the desire to rid their lots of 03's to make room for the 04's and you have your $7500 incentive.

Jaguar X-Type

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