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Wish I had the jag, but no dealer around!
To the Eau Claire guy, I live in Lacrosse, and there is also a 2004 typeX at a dealership here, with low miles prices around 22,000. 20,000 sounds like a deal.
One thing to think about,,,you mentioned there is a guy that works on Jags in your area. I have that here in Lacrosse too,,,,however if you want the Jag warranty to cover anything,it MUST be done at a Jag Dealership. YOur local guy could do small stuff for you, buy anything really 'under warranty', he wouldn't be able to. I checked with the Minn. dealer and the Milwaukee dealer, and they both gave me that information. That's why I decided against the Jag,,,no dealer in Lacrosse either. Closest is Madison, or the cities. :sick:
So for _first_ luxury car, i'd almost suggest you jump of the first el cheapo lease special available to get your feet wet. You've got a warranty the whole time, etc.
Just some thoughts.
Heck, a chevy can make you write big checks now and again. All cars are getting more complex and expensive to maintian.
Just opining as i did before because i know peoiple who have bought "dream" used luxury cars, then been socked with a $5000 bill a few months later. Best to let your dream remain a good one.
dave
dave
Regards:
Oldengineer
1. The Jag has AWD standard, the BMW doesn't.
2. The Jag is a bit larger inside, a bit classier, and has a much larger trunk.
3. The Jag has the BMW outgunned on HP, but, is heavier. The Jag felt more athletic to me.
4. The Jags of late have been doing better than BMW in consumer reliability ratings.
5. Handling wise, I couldn't really tell any difference between the 2 cars.
6. The Jag depreciates worse than the BMW will. When I got down to brass tacks in negotiating with the two dealers, the Jag ended up $6K cheaper than a comparably equipped 325i w/o AWD. This negated the depreciation factor for me. I would try negotiating for a bigger discount on the Jag - perhaps by contacting one of the larger dealers. I went to Jaguar - Lexington,Ky to get the deal I wanted.
Just my 2cents worth:
Oldengineer
Quick answer is the BMW's a performance car, and the jag's more of a lux car, particularly as you have them configured, the bmw's way ahead with perf and handling. Have you driven them both back to back?
I do really appreciate your comments.
I've heard the rear seat of an X-Type is more comparable to a Lexus IS and the perfomance and handling more like a Lexus ES.
Regards:
Oldengineer
Cheers,
Stephen D.
2005 Jaguar X-Type vs. 2005 BMW 3-series
Front head room: 37.2 vs. 37.0 in.
Front shoulder: 54.5 vs. 54.4 in.
Rear head room: 37.5 vs. 37.4 in.
Rear shoulder: 53.7 vs. 54.2 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.4 vs. 41.4 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.4 vs. 34.6 in
Luggage Capacity: 16 vs. 10.7 cu. ft.
Generally, both cars are rather small, especially in the back seat, but Jaguar comes in a bit larger than BMW, especially in the luggage and front leg room category. I drove my friend's 3-series and it drove fine, accelerated smoothly and shifted well, but it didn't particularly stand out or differ from the Jag. Objectively speaking, the Jaguar is a bit more pleasant to drive and the driver's seating position is better at least for me. The biggest difference was in turns! Since the bimmer is a RWD, I had to be really careful with throttle on turns or I would have the rear end come around, whereas in the Jag I can floor it without worrying about doing a 360 in the middle of a busy intersection. At the end it comes down to personal preference because they are both nice cars. As for me, as soon as I can find a brand new Bimmer with AWD and a trunk big enough to fit a 32-inch flat screen TV (it fit in my X-Type's trunk), which would cost me no more than mid $20s, I will be sold.
I can floor mine in first gear during tight turns and "the end doesn't come around".
Also, characterizations such as "pleasant" are subjective, not objective.
dave
Soemtime the way soem have written down clearly shows they had no idea about the car but just wrote down or maybe they are sales people themselves.
I am intrested in buying a Jaguar X-type of 2002 (used) with around 48k miles on it. Please recommend if i should or not. Seeing so many problems wther genuine or not i am a little reluctant to buy this car. WIll appreciate you views. Thanks
So, overall good experience, but we could have used more interior space, especially rear legroom, the car still whines and howls at 55-75mph and now I am hearing this high-pitched noise described by others as similar to "finger on glass" for the first 300 yards of driving in cold weather.
Have you tried running the A/C with the temp setting on warm? That'll dehumidify the air inside the vehicle and stop the condensation.
I know what you are thinking; but it is a Jaguar and I shouldn't have to put up with this crap and of course you are right!