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Oh come on, get real. Anyone that would let a dealer tell them their warranty was void because of the gas they use is pretty guilible. I have been on Several Jaguar boards for over 4 years and I have NEVER heard that claim on any of them. My Jaguars had premium when I got them from the dealer and that was about the last tank they ever had. We have three grades where I live and I use the middle grade which is 89 octane. Cars have always run perfectly. If you want peak performance, perhaps 91+ octane would be better but I'm no longer a boy racer! It is a waste of money to put in higher octane than a car needs.
Using a lower grade in those cases usually results in a false economy. The vehicle's ECU will adjust the performance of the engine to accomodate the lower octane. But many times, that reduced performance is accompanied by reduced fuel economy. The savings in fuel purchases is offset by the lower economy. To top it off, you also get less performance.
However, the reverse is not the same. Using 91/93 in a vehicle designed to run on 87 usually will not produce increased performance or fuel economy.
Regards:
Oldengineer
That's because they are paying for that tank of gas.
...and have just turned 4000 miles without any problems using the cheap stuff
Keep track of your gas mileage for a few weeks with regular and then switch to premium for a few weeks. You may be suprised at the results.
Personally I trust the manual more than the salesperson when it comes to fuel requirements.
"Use a minimum of 87 research octane and for the best performance, use 91 or higher research octane."
That is with the 3.3 liter engine(Same as Lexus 330) and IMO a more advanced engine than in my 3.0 Jaguar. Now I don't need great performance to drive to the store or to work so I don't waste the money. On long trips (1500 miles) I have used premium particularly when traversing the mountains of Colorado and Utah.
Regards:
Oldengineer
The cars are not comparable of course. I would much rather be driving my Jaguar. My point was the Toyota manual says 87 octane is OK but 91 or higher will get better performance. I suspect Jaguar could say the same if they wanted to.
I purchased this car 'Certified' with just over 40,000 miles. I have spent the last two days, driving it in all different environments to become acquainted with it's tendencies. I have a few questions for those of you who are familiar with the '02 X-type. I appreciate all of your information and advice.
1. The steering column seems to make a humming/whining noise when turning hard to the either side. Is this a known issue with this model or something unique?
2. It's an automatic, but there is a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear indicator on the left side of the shifting plate. The salesperson wasn't sure if this allowed for speed shifting between these gears while moving or whether they were static gear selection. This may come across as confusing but hopefully some of you understand and can provide insight. I would hate to use these gears as a pseudo manual shifting while moving if it wasn't designed for this purpose and may cause unnecessary transmission wear/tear.
3. The stereo system console supports an embedded cellphone and CD Changer, neither of which were in the car when I purchased it. I have two basic questions. a> If I add the cell phone option can I use any cellphone service (i.e. Cingular, Spring, T-Mobil)? b> Can a 3rd party CD Changer be added in the trunk be supported by the Jaguar stereo system or must I Use Jaguar's CD changer?
I appreciate any help you can provide. I love the car, and I'm simply trying to better understand my alternatives for these issues.
Thank you,
Rich
It all happened after I accidently turned off the ignition whilst the sunroof was closing. I turned the engine on again when I realised my mistake and I've had my problem since.
Is anyone aware of this problem and how to fix it?
Many thanks
Issue: Sunroof Motor Synchronization - Calibration:
Please note: The 2002 MY X-Type sunroof motor/module doesn't have timing marks
or gears to be aligned. In the event that a roof motor is inoperative, or if the
roof panel is not closing or opening properly, the following Initializations
procedure must be performed.
Action: Press the switch to operate the roof panel to the fully tilt position.
Release the switch. Press the switch again in the same direction, fully tilt and
hold for 30 seconds or until the roof panel moves slightly. Release the switch
and, within 5 seconds, press in the same direction and hold. The roof panel will
travel automatically to the fully open position, then back to the fully closed
position and then stop. Verify the operation of the anti-trap and one-touch
features.
Worked for me.
As for the phone; from what I have read, the Jag phone was a timeport Motorola and was rather dated, expensive, and did not allow for the use of other phones using the car's wiring. As for the CD changer, Jaguar uses a fiber optics system that is practically impossible to use ad-ons with. And to make matters worse, both the factory phone and changer are very expensive. Check around as maybe a third party supplier has come up with something. Or maybe Ebay.
Below that it's anemic. Has anyone upgraded to a true bolt on system that adds beautiful sound to a beautiful car?
Thanks for your input, see you on the road in Seattle. - Go Hawks. PS - The Seattle/Bellevue dealership rocks.
That worked perfectly.
Very many thanks, Much appreciated.
I have the same problem
I havent done anything since I have always heard there is nothing to do. I heard there is a noise insulator somewhere to minimize the noise. Any advice?
JJ
I purchased my 2004 x-type brand new from the dealer in March of 2004.....since
then.....it has been in for service 14 TIMES!!!!!! Not only have I been shuttled
between rental cars....when I receive my "car" back (I use the word car loosley
b/c my mountain bike is more reliable) it is infact not fixed, but continues
with its issues and dies repeatedly or as Jag puts it...goes into safe mode.
good thing the car is out to stay safe, b/c on several instances, my safety was
compromised. For any person considering purchasing a $30k near luxury auto,
there are many other offerings from BMW to Lexus that would provide better
reliablity and service. I also own a BMW 3-series so I know from experience.
-I paid $23,700 for the car, price included $6000 cash back for dealer marketing support. After doing online research after the fact (not the smartest time to do research, I know), I think I could have done much better on the price. Any thoughts?
-The clutch. Any of you driving the 5-speed know what I'm talking about. It is stiff, vague, a little unpredictable, not too smooth. Even though I am a highly experienced stick-shift driver, I've stalled, grinded, and rev-ved with this clutch. I've read some of you having the dealer adjust the clutch reporting good results. What should I say to the service department to get the maximum benefit from a clutch adjustment on this car?
Thanks. I've enjoyed reading back through the pages of this forum. Learned a lot.
- $23,700 is a good price. Could you have done better? Maybe, but there are so many variables that you should just let it be and enjoy the car.
- The clutch never really gets that much better. As you put some miles on the car, the starts will be smoother as the clutch plates break-in, but it will remain stiff and vague. When I asked the dealer to check it out, they said it was working as designed, but greased the linkage (I think) and it seemed smoother afterwards. Shifts into 2nd are still the most challenging when it comes to smoothness, but you do get better at it. It is best driven hard when the shifts become more predictable and natural. Driving in stop and go traffic - pain in the neck. I compared the clutch stiffness in other cars and X-Type's is similar to that in a Mustang, GTO and Porsche. Then you have a number of cars with really soft and extremely easy to operate clutches such as Acura TL, BMW 3, Honda Accord.
Do you have any whinning from your drivetrain at highway speeds (70mph)? Is there whistling sound at 5th gear at exactly 50mph coming from engine (transmission) area? Those are my major issues for now.
I had a feeling the clutch was "working as designed", but I'll still ask the dealer to check it out. It's not horrible, and yes, much like that of a Mustang. And the majority of my clutch experience is with Japanese and German cars, so I guess that's what I am used to.
I do notice the whistle at EXACTLY 50mph in 5th. I'll mention that to the dealer as well, but it sounds like a common, unresolved issue for some here. AWD issue?
I've only had the car to 60mph so far but when I get it to 70, I will listen for any whining from the drivetrain and let you know.
Something strange happened to me today. I think it may be a general ABS issue and not one specifically related to the car. I had to make a quick stop at a traffic light where the road has several buckles one right after another a few feet apart. My ABS kicked in, the brake pedal got soft and it felt like the car was not going to stop, although it did. My theory is that tires were off the ground ever so slightly going over these bumps while I was braking and the ABS sensed this. It was an uncommon braking situation and attributed it to that. After that I tested the brakes and drove cautiously just in case. I did not experience any further problems.
I am loving the car more every day. I've always liked the design of the car and now that I own one, I realize there is so much more to it than just it's looks.
The whistle at 50 at 5th gear may be related to the manual transmission because I drove three different rental X-Types (autos) and none of them had the whistling. Besides, the whistle occurs in 5th gear only, which confirms my theory. If you bring it up to the dealer they will either not hear it or tell you that all manual X-Types do that.
I am glad you are liking your new ride!
If not, I just replaced mine last night. You can find the parts on www.jaguarxp.com You'll need some robust cutters to get through that from grate but it looks really good when finished.
Thanks,
Chintan Talati
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
I put an octane booster and the humming noise at 30 and 60-70 mph was gone. I do not know if it will return but I will put 91 octane gas and see what happens. If there is any other info on cause of noise let me know.
JJ
Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.
Regards:
Oldengineer
Thanks again
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