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Still, it'd be fun to try one out to gauge myself. Any volunteers? I'm sure the dealers will be very choosy about whom they let test-drive one of these.
Do you mean oversteer? It's not possible for a RWD car to have torque steer unless the rear wheels also did the steering.
While I understand what they(C&D) are saying, I thought this comment was really stupid. I think they must have pissed some other automakers off and taken heat with the original MP3 evaluation.
How do u expect them to like a lowly MS3 compared to 600hp supertuned viper?
So filling up only 3/4 tankfull costs me around $9 or $10 as compared to $17 bucks for a full tank.
This makes my pro drive lighter especially with the AC on.
And how much time does it take to fill up? 3 minutes max with those automated credit card stations.
As for quick fillups, use the Exxon/Mobil Speedpass . Shell is going to come out with something similar soon, but going by their past record of not admitting to contaminants in their fuel, I couldn't care less! Basically, this thing fits on your keychain, and has a credit card associated with it (you pick, any type) - you touch it to the SpeedPass sensor for like half a second, and fill up after choosing octane (wish it could remember that!)
Saves at least a few seconds over having to dig out your wallet, and a credit card from it, and swiping it - which again is a 50-50 thing, what with the always confusing orientation variations!
I always top up, and refill at around 200 miles (usually under 8 gallons for my car, unless I've Zoom Zoom-ed too much!)
Location: Leesylvania State Park, Woodbridge, VA. Shelter #2
Date: SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2002
oh yeah, this time, PROTEGES ONLY!!!!! >:o
I don't even dare floor my P5 in traffic, geez.
Anyone know if that $20,500 MSRP is real?
Meade
Thanx,
Dinu
I think the only major things there, besides oil change, was air filter and spark plugs, but check the manual to verify.
Actually, if you're going to parody Star Wars titles concerning our meet, then get accurate:
MAPP I: The Edmunds Menaces
(We'll retroactively call MAPPs I, II, and III MAPPS IV, V, and VI.)
Meade
P.S. to Hank -- I'll be attending!!!
MAPP IV: A New Low
or
MAPP IV: No Hope
;-)
C'mon Larry, here's your chance to entertain us all again and meet some new faces from MAPP III! And you already know a NICE hotel in the area ...
Meade
Now, about Dale coming ... ?
Meade
Sore loser!
Meade
"MAPP IV: The Jetta's First Appearance?"
Oh, wait a minute, that's right. You're too young to remember Return of the Jedi. It came out when you were in diapers and eating strained peaches, right?
I'll just pray you'll be able to make it this time and you won't be driving another loaner New Beetle, Passat, Golf, Protege, etc. while your Jetta's broken ... again.
Do me a favor and stop those 100-mph drag races on the Beltway like the one you had yesterday. Keep that thing out of the shop and bring it to MAPP!
Actually I'm wondering if I'll ever get a chance to see your car. I read your post yesterday about being at the magical 19,000 miles after 8 months again ...
;-)
Meade
Funny face. No, I am not getting rid of the car anytime soon. And I don't even wanna hear the comments, save them.
I am not bringing the VW. The posts said if you don't have a Mazda, you are not invited. I only have a Mercury or a VW, no Mazda here.
Second ...
DON'T call me "funny face."
Third ...
The only reason I brought up MAPP and your car is because Hank already defaulted on his rule and invited one of his friends in Pennsylvania who will be driving an Altima ... so I figure it's wide open now.
There, that proves our friendship. You wouldn't have found out he dropped the vehicle requirement if I hadn't told you.
The rest of you can kill me later.
Meade
but I will take the requirement change into consideration... >:D
Secondly, after the way you all worked me about what happend at the dealer a couple weeks ago, I am surprised you would turn around and invite me to the MAPP.
And third, I might not be able to attend. I am considering taking on a different PT job that might require some weekend work. I will know more later though.
Try to have fun without me!
--Dale
http://www.protegenetwork.org/chapters/DC/mapp4.htm
If you know you are attending PLEASE fill the form out as complete as possible.
Pretty much anything you'd want to know is on that page. It lists the location, how to get there, how much it will cost, and a list of who is going with their contact information.
enjoy!
"Handling:
Handling tests evaluate a test car's abilities in other than a straight line. Lateral Acceleration around a skidpad measures the steady-state-lateral grip a car can generate. The result is reported in g's calculated using the average of the best timed laps, clockwise and counterclockwise, around a 200-ft.-diameter circle.
Balance is subjectively evaluated by the test driver. Speed through a 700-ft. slalom is a test to analyze a car's lateral grip capabilities in transient state where it needs to weave through a series of eight cones spaced 100 ft. apart. The car is timed as it threads through the course and an average speed in mpg is calculated. The car's Balance in this exercise is also rated by the test driver. "
Hope that helps!
why don't they indicate the speed attained while achieving thoe g's?
surely speed and g's have to have a connection. No?
Jim, It's good to hear that you, Tippy, and your Protege are doing well! :-)
-Larry
Thanks Larry, I'll try to stop in more often, slowly catching up on my work schedule, now work til 2:00AM instead of 4:00AM. (Not bragging, complaining.) LOL!
I was trying to remember what I was doing before all the crap hit my desk. Oh, yeah, I was on Edmunds and that other place. Seems like years ago.
I was looking at 2002 Proteges at my dealer's yesterday, just to get out for while. Mazda really needs a new Protege! They are swapping parts between the LX and the ES to make the current models, such as the black grill bar and black headlight trim from the ES on all 5-speed LX models. Pathetic facelift! One new color looks good, it's between the Sand Mica and Silver Metalic, forget the name. I would like the Sage Green Metallic used on the MPV.
Saw a Mazda MX3-v6 today, the little hatchback from years past, it had a Virginia plate -- XUM XUM. Still looked sharp.
big_H, thanks for the road kill's view of Falls Church. jk
fowler3
Don't clobber me -- just my opinion guys.
Looking forward to MAPP IV! I've already signed up as an "official" attendee.
BTW Larry, you comin'?
Meade
2. The '99s and '00s did NOT leave "big gaping openings in the front fascia" if you didn't pay for the option. My 2000 ES, which does not have fog lights, has covers over those openings that match the grille cover.
I personally think the optional driving lights on either car are WAY too close to the ground, and are just asking for a wayward pebble to smash them to pieces.
Meade
BTW, I'm very familiar with the need for covers. I installed a very nice set of Sylvanias (built for light, not for looks) on my old Protege. I was on the Blue Ridge Parkway in 1993, at night, behind an RV. He went through some gravel and here came a bunch of gravel bouncing down the road toward me, and the delightful sound of breaking glass from my front end. Hey -- they came with covers, but I was USING them at the time!
Meade