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Mazda Protegé



  • sunbyrnesunbyrne Posts: 210
    Wow, today was a good day here... I have to ring in with my favorite joke involving Canada:

    Q: What's a Canadian?

    A: An unarmed American with health care.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    That's enough. We all know it's what's inside that counts. And BTW, have you seen LARRY's pic?

    If only my body worked as perfectly as my Protege! (I'll be watching for snide remarks to that comment -- so don't even try. If you do, I'll respond back so abruptly that Pat will shut us down for good.)


    (One attempt at saving face: I've been on a low-carb diet since January 5 and have trimmed off 16 of those pounds you saw in my pic.)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I don't have web access at home, and I couldn't believe I had to wade through FORTY-EIGHT posts this morning (7 a.m.) just to catch up from where I left off yesterday at 3:30 p.m., LOL!!!

    I just replaced the 195/55/15 tires on my 2000 ES with 205/50/15 Dunlop SP Sport A2s from TireRack ( about three weeks ago. Excellent tires. They're H-rated -- but actually rate better (much better) than the stock Bridgestones in traction, both wet and dry; snow handling; hydroplaning resistance; treadwear ... well, just about everything. Plus they cost less ... $87 apiece. I completely love these tires! Go to and check them out -- be sure to read the 70-some-odd reviews by people who have purchased them. (I'm one of 'em.) Then read TireRack's test of the tire and check out the specs ... I think you'll be impressed. After telling a guy with a Nissan 200SX on another topic about them, he's about to buy a set too. These things actually rate better than the Michelin Pilots that cost about $35 more each.

    Oh -- and if you're worried about a different tire size, don't -- this is called "plus zero sizing" where nothing really changes all that much. You can check it yourself using this calculator:

    Good luck with whatever you decide!


  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421

    (And Pat was so scared the Yahoo! group would somehow affect our love for talking about our cars here!!! -- Sorry Pat. Have a sense of humor!)

  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    I've owned two Pros 91DX 5 speed 105,000 miles and 96DX 5 speed 101,000 miles, both flawless.

    After 25 years of driving a stick, I never owned a slush box, I gave in getting an automatic in my 01 LX 2.0. My left knee is starting to get arthritis, and I'm only 43. My 10 year old son will be driving in 5 years and will learn to drive on my 6 year old auto Pro. I miss driving a 5 speed.

    Currently, only 20 percent of drivers know how to drive a standard transmission, very sad. Many, many years ago everyone drove a standard tranny. Drivers seemed to be better and paid more attention to the road, less cell phones, fast food etc. It's harder to put on your makeup or shave in the car, while your driving a stick.

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Some news of a possible Mazda top-level replacement this morning ...


  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I'll be 37 Friday (no hints here!) and my 2000 Protege ES, like the 1992 LX that preceded it, is a 5-speed. I was determined I'd make the change to an automatic with this car, but after driving the automatic ES I had to try the 5-speed to be fair. NO COMPARISON. The automatic accelerates like a Corolla by comparison. (No offense, my fellow Protege automatic owners. But if you haven't driven the stick, you're really missing some fun.) I thought I'd be tired of the stick by now -- but I really enjoy it. And I work downtown!

  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I'll never have an automatic in a 4cyl. car. You just loose too much with it. If I had a big V6 or especially any V8, then I wouldn't mind one.
  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    The other day I asked for info on front speaker installation. You wrote back in message #8454 that "Msg 263 in Accessories and Modifications" would have info. I checked 263 but it was about buying an overstock ES. Am I loking this up wrong? I could not find a way to search for your past posts on Edmunds either.

    The Astolfo site has great pictures but I wanted to read your text description of just how to get the door skin off. Astolfo's site does not address this. It goes from unscrewing supports to just having the door skin off. There must be either push in or lock down clips on the back of the door skin and these are what I really wanted to avoid damaging.

    How can I locate your old post?

    Ron B.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    I think you ended up in the wrong forum. You need to go to:

    Town Hall: Owners Clubs: Mazda Owners Clubs: Mazda Protege Owners: Accessories & Modifications

    Post #263 in that forum is relevant.
  • The Major Babe in the next office over has a '95 LX with 109,000 miles. With the original automatic, yet.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    what does the inside of your cars look like? How much wear? Most cars I see with that much mileage look pretty crappy inside, although, I have seen crappy looking cars with half that mileage.

    I learned to drive in a 1937 Chevy in a cow pasture - stick shift. With all that space to roam around I found roads to be confining. LOL

    I didn't buy an AT car until 1954 and again in 1957, then went back to manual trannys with VW Beetles '60, '68; Audis '73, '76, '77; BMW '75; GLC '81; Accord '86; Civic '94. The rest have been AT cars and none driven more than 50K miles.

  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    My 91 5 speed was a quick car, even faster than my 96 Pro and alot more fun to drive. The first generation Proteges seemed alot faster than the second. I still see alot of first generation Proteges around my neck of the woods(Ohio), they have seemed to hold up very well. My 01 LX 2.0 auto, although not good on low end torque, handles far superior than my 2 prevous Proteges. IMO, the 3rd generation Protege is alot better looking than the 1st and 2nd. Always thought the 1st generation was a little too boxy, some people thought it looked like a MB 190. The 2nd generation was nice, but looked like every other Japanese econobox in the mid 90's.

    Thanks for the info on Mazda's shake-up. Mazda seems to be changing their a younger driving audience.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    1.) Thank you, for your kind post.

    2.) If my 2000 PRO-ES's are trouble free over the next 8 months or so. I will hold on to them. Why? Because, I always have and always will; love those cars. The most fun cars, I have ever owned.

    3.) The Chevy Tracker deal was a "just kidding" over at the Wahoo club. My salesman was not Dirk Digler, either!

  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    Well, only at 24k on my Pro, but at 100k on my 323, the vinyl on the driver's seat had a little tear near the shoulder, the rubber covers on the pedals were kind of glossy, and little bubbles appeared under the dashboard skin. The cloth looks a little dingier but still OK.

    Oh yeah, the headliner was a bit worn from my hair rubbing against it (sunroof just takes away too much room). :)
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    What's the reliability history of the turbo engine they're talking about bringing in on the MPS Pro and P5? Sounds like a sweet engine, but I'm always wary about wear and maintenance on turbo engines.

    I'd almost prefer the naturally aspirated new I4 engine that's going in the 6. I'd heard another rumor the 2.3L version would be an option on the P5 this summer.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    The third-generation is much better looking than the first two, and, if I may be so bold, I really like the 1999-2000 front ends better than the 2001 and 2002s. The newer front end looks too boxy to me (below the bumper) and I don't care for the ridge running up the center of the hood. I like the smooth curve in the middle of my hood. Oh well, personal tastes.

    My 1992 LX had those cool taillights that wrapped over the license plate lights. I really liked those. I also liked the covered storage compartment with the spring-loaded door.

    We have a 1990 Protege down the street from us that still looks pretty good. It's an LX with the first-gen kinda flat-looking alloy wheels. It's slate blue. We have a lot of first-gens running around Richmond too. Not bad for a 10-year-old car!

    By the way, the condition of a car as it ages has everything to do with the way the driver takes care of it. If the car has been handed down to a teenager, you can bet it looks like hell at 100,000 miles. My '92 Protege at 83,000 miles looked almost brand new inside when I traded it, just like the interior of my 2000 ES with 33,000 miles looks like the day I bought it.

    Another BTW -- it hit 70 here yesterday and I went home and washed my Protege! Now -- would you believe it -- it's 42 outside and will be hitting the upper teens tonight.

    Welcome to Richmond -- pneumonia capital of the South.

  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    You're definitely right when you say that who drives the car has a lot to do with the condition it's in. My friend will have the interior of his car looking like new for years and years. Others have papers, food wrappers, and all kinds of stuff all over the car.
    Weather will definitely get ya. Harmony was 62 on Monday, today we have snow and a high of 24.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I drove home yesterday (near Washington, DC metro area) with my sunroof and windows open, enjoying a new CD. Came out this morning, and had to put the heat and seat heaters on high to keep warm. Crazy weather!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    When I was a teenager (well, 19 when I first started driving), I always kept my car looking clean. On the other hand, a friend of mine used to take all the trash from inside the car and put in into the trunk. That's pathetic, I think. I have to keep my car clean now, because the job I have sometimes requires me taking clients out for lunch and stuff like that. I can't have a messy car with clients riding in it.
  • bpibpi Posts: 120
    Hey vocus,
    I thought your post on replacing your ex-Protege ES's taillights with those from the Protege5 was the best. Now what you said in the Jetta forum comes close.

    "...maybe buy an alloy wheel for my spare tire (instead of steel). Not sure yet though."

    I predict another new car in six months.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Well, I will put it this way. I will be buying another car in 6 months when someone comes to me and tells me they are going to give me the cash in my hand to pay for it. Otherwise, I will be sticking with my Jetta, thank you very much.

    I am also glad to know that I am "tracked" around the Edmund's website, and about every word I say (in no matter what forum) is reverberated in some way by another poster. Makes me feel important.

    Also, at least I would have an option to buy different taillamps for my Jetta if I wanted them. I had to tint the lights myself on the Protege, due to its narrow aftermarket conformity.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Actually, I'm impressed at how there is much more aftermarket support for the Protege. I can only see it getting better and better. For example, AEM made a cold-air intake specifically for the 2.0L Pro/P5. Also, magazines like SCC have ads that have much more Pro content than before. It's still mostly Acura/Honda stuff, but the aftermarket has to start from something. At least it's growing.
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    I think this translates to:

    "Would you like your Altezza tail lamps in Clear or Carbon Fiber?"
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    So much of that great "aftermarket" stuff is just tacky add ons. It would be nice to see more power and handling mods, but they are coming along.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Thanks for the advice on the coke-covered floor mat.

    At this point, I'm ready to just order new ones. I don't know if I really have the time/energy/space to play with cleaning the yucky one.

    Take it easy!

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Like I said, AEM has made the CAI's all gotta start from somewhere. The more people that show an interest, the greater the production.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That's what I am saying. I don't want labels and stickers and crap. I wanted more power for my 2001 Protege, and couldn't find it anywhere but with swapping engines out for the turbo (like $3000!). Also, I couldn't have done it anyway (I don't think) because I had automatic tranmission.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    But look how long it took for them to decide to make the CAI though. If there was more of an aftermarket for the Protege, it would be a bigger hit with young drivers.
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