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I just watched it three times in a row!!!!
Meade
FXASHUN,
NO!!!!! I hope it looks nice though.
Here is one that claims to be non-corrosive:
http://www.imperialoil.com/pds/gearls.htm
Some days are busier than others and arguing that big brakes work better than small ones was higher on my priority list. That and the toilets were filthy.
HILARIOUS!!!!!!
To Galdalf:
Zoom said that the sad part is the animation isn't complete. After the Civic and a turtle a Protege went by. Actually I wish she had posted this under her name.
Can you save that cartoon?
Black just looks the best clean....it's keeping it that way that's such a friggin' pain... A good wax helps.
Bdda bdda bddbda dmmdmmdmmdm spit.<---My exhaust.
Have fun!
Meade
;-)
Meade
(And I hoped you washed it after playing in the commode!)
:-o
Meade
P.S. I don't think it was "big brakes vs. small ones." I think it was disc brakes vs. drum brakes. I forgot ... which is better?
OHHHHH NOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Paul, I thought we agreed to keep our car conversations in their respective topics ... ?
Meade
PAT, PLEASE COME IN HERE AND EXPLAIN TO THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUALS THAT THIS TOPIC IS ENTITLED "MAZDA PROTEGE." DISCUSSIONS RELATING TO HONDA CIVICS AND VOLKSWAGEN JETTAS ARE WELCOME IN THEIR APPROPRIATE TOPICS.
There, you OK now? I'm not just pointing my host-wannabe finger at you now.
Meade
Ok, what's one more kick to a dead horse anyway.
Anyway, i posted it just to make some folks laugh. Not to start a comparison ad nauseum again...
"DUH!"
Meade
But don't worry. That really was my last "kick" on this dead horse. My car stops fine -- drums, non-ABS and smaller discs notwithstanding.
Meade
Meade
I post here cause i think the Protege is such an outstanding package of performance. I truly feel that no other car in this class price range can offer the overall performance value of the Pro. Some may be marginally quicker, but none can offer the pep and absolutely dynamic handling at this price. I drive a WRX most days and I would never compare it to the Pro cause that just ain't fair. That said, i love driving my wife's Pro, although she hates it cause I rev the hell out of it and throw it around like i do the REX. The handling is almost comparable and that speaks volumes!! Just wish it had a little more umph. Then again, it has plenty when matching against it's direct competition.
As a side note, if my wife and i had to choose another car in the 2000 model year when we were looking, it would have been the Elantra.... Despite Hyundai's rep (I expect to get flamed here...) they have come along way and the Elantra was far more dynamic than most of the competition.
For the 2000 model year
1. Mazda Protege (with the 1.8L, i hate the gearing and power band on the 2.0L)
2. Hyundai Elantra
3. Honda Civic
4. Ford Focus ZX3 ( would place it ahead of the Civic for performance, but this car's quality is abominable)
5. Nissan Sentra
6. Toyota Corolla
Won't consider any car ever built by Gm or Chrysler although i have test driven them...
We like performance. Hence the crappy rating for the Corolla.
Please don't strike me (or my post) down hosts!
Our 2000 ES stops on a dime and we don't have ABS cause I hate it and so does the wife. We purposely opted from this option.
Test drove the P5 and the new sedans and the brakes are even better. really, really sensitive and they stop the car quick. Damn ABS though...
I drove the TS and didn't care for the clutch/shift set-up much. The WRX seems a little more aligned to me, but I'm not aware of any actual specification difference between the two. I would assum the flywheel and clutchÿ
I drove the TS and didn't care for the clutch/shift set-up much. The WRX seems a little more aligned to me, but I'm not aware of any actual specification difference between the two. I would assume the flywheel and clutch plates are different. All that said, the WRX is a little better than average. Let's call it adequate. It too, takes a bit of getting used too.
The REX is sometimes awkward getting to reverse and you need to double clutch. It's notchier than the Pro, but this tends to go away when you shift at a higher RPM. It's almost as if the car is telling you not to shift before 4000rpm cause it just doesn't like it. It feels fine over that mark and shifts much smoother. The REX is simply not refined enough in almost every aspect to use as a commuter car. It is really unbridled performance without the frills.
Hope that helps.
To answer your other question regarding ABS. I fully admit that ABS is great in wet weather particularly and helps a little on snow.
I just don't care for it because i feel less in control of the car with ABS. There are times, and hopefully you never encounter them, when locking the brakes and maneuvering can actually help you. I think it has to do with the fact both the wife and i used to Rally a little. It's a control thing... I still want to use my hand brake when taking tight corners!!!! i have to stop myself sometimes although I've done it once or twice with the WRX.
My wife is British and i spent 3 years over there. Her Dad runs the "circuit rally" portion of Silverstone and used to be one of the U.K.'s best rally drivers back in the 60's through to the 80's. Cause of him, we got the opportunity and the bug....
I would recommend ABS for anyone wanting safety in their vehicles...
I think I've just read five zillion messages since yesterday.
Now, we need to talk for a few minutes. There are some things happening in here which shouldn't be. There is a language problem in a joke a million posts ago - profanity is off-limits, period, and everyone surely knows that?
Then there is a sudden proliferation of sexual innuendoes - that behavior also is not appropriate in the Town Hall.
And finally, some of you must have known this part was coming - the video link, while very, very funny, is using that dreaded term which - because of its highly offensive ethnic origin - is also off-limits in the Town Hall.
I know that many of you have heard these things before. And I see that we have some new posters who perhaps are not as familiar with these rules. You long-time regulars can help us all out when you see something that you know doesn't belong here by politely pointing it out to the poster - that way the person has a chance to take care of it without me coming along with my big stick.
In terms of topic-drift, that will certainly happen from time to time. I think that some of us could lighten up a bit and not respond to posts we don't care about, and I think that others of us could be more sensitive to the topical environment and make an effort to keep an off-topic subject from overtaking the discussion. I've said this before - is this something some of you are not understanding? If that's the case, please let me know.
The real way to get a discussion back on track is to make topical posts - those of you who want the discussion refocused could try that instead of responding to the off-topic posts.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not "yelling" - I understand that just about everyone in here today has had a great time, but ze rulez eez ze rulez no matter how you or I feel about them.
Thanks for your understanding - feel free to drop me an email with any questions or concerns.
Pat
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According to Valvoline, their SynPower is no exception:
"Protects parts from rust and corrosion"
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?Product=58
Tim: Went to Sol Club Cayo de Guilermo in Dec. 2000 with a few friends. We too had a great time.
About the CD: I will make you a copy of it. Problem is, I have exams, tests, papers due until the end of March (then 1 month of teaching) and while I post here 2-3 times/day, I go to school F/T, work 22 hrs/week P/T and have to write those essays.
What I'm trying to say is this: Between May 6 and May 10 you will have your CD, ready for summer. Promise. I do have a burner, but I need to connect my CD-ROM drive to the burner to duplicate discs. That won't be done till I'm finished with ALL my school stuff. So have no worries, the Cuban CD will be playing in the WRX by early May.
So your wife's dad used to rally race and you too? Did I tell you how much of a rally and F1 freak I am. Yeah freak, it's (sadly) well beyond being classified as a "fan" But that's a good thing.
What's your call for Corsica? I'll take Makkinen, although I have a thing for the 206s.
Dinu
And don't try to talk to me about dinner! ;-)
Just move on, folks, please.
Pat
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Sedans Message Board
I was working from home today and had a little extra time, hence the extra posts.
Yes, the wife's father was one of the best. His name is John Taylor. Had a long affiliation with Ford for many years and recently with Silverstone. He'll be retiring soon. I drove a little rally, had a great teacher. By no means am I or my wife professional rally drivers....those guys and gals are incredible. Take Tommy Makkinen for a fiver. Oh no... I hope innuendoes regarding gambling aren't taboo as well. Bad, bad impolitic poster I am.
Cayo Guillermo is nice. Took a day trip to Pilar Beach to go snorkelling. Unbelievable.
To Pat,
As for the term "R*** (Multi-grain) Rocket", I hope you are aware that it has it's origins in street racing and performance car lingo. It is no more racist than referring to a Volvo as an "Ikea injected" vehicle, or a Lada as a "Vodka Varoomer". Or a Canadian made vehicle as a "Beer Boomer". Or an American SUV as a "Hefty Hamburger Helper".
The term is accepted automotive lingo and can be found in newspaper reviews, and auto enthusiast mags. I would beg that Edmonds not take itself so seriosuly. Much the same as you caution some of the posters not to do the same. There is a horrific double standard of political correctness applied to some terms and the multi-grain rocket happens to be one of them.
Your point regarding language is taken and i will be more dilligent moving forward. However, since most of the posters here "seem" to be adults, I would expect them to say something if they were offended. AS for innuendo, it is exactly that. Innuendo....
we could have been discussing anything. You shouldn't have such a dirty mind.
Sincerely,
P.S.- You are right, people had a great time today. What does that tell you and Edmonds?
I wish I was German so I could pretend to be offended and fire off a letter to TH management. Durn gene pool + geographic origin + luck of the draw...
However, i'm still going to point out the total absurdity and twisted double standard behind that term. It is asinine. I am allowed to say that, right?