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So two questions:
1) Am I going to have to pay around MSRP if I want this car?
2) Have others had to pay this allocation fee? Seems like alot of money.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
The following link goes to the SVT section of the forums
http://www.teamfocaljet.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=36
Of course I haven't started haggling on price yet, but their marked-up "sticker price" is an indication of where they want to be when the dust settles, and I don't know that I want to go there.
There's another SVT dealer near by. I will check them out.
So the RSX is ugly, and the WRX, what? ... isn't? Hmm. Beauty is in the eye ... I'd call the RSX plain looking, and the WRX ugly, but that's just me. Besides, who cares about looks? Focus SVT buyers? ;-)
Although I have heard rumors that there are some people who actually think the WRX is good looking. ;-)
The SVT I tested the other day was fully loaded and the sticker price wasn't too much over 18k.
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Any opinions?
MINI says: 11.43, 7.18, 5.40, 4.41, 3.66 & 2.97:1
What effect does torque have on the power in driving?
Here are four examples;
Focus 130HP @5300, torque 135@4500.
Matrix 130HP @6000; torque 125@4200.
HyundaiGT 140HP@6000; torque 133@4800.
VibeGT; 180HP@ 7600; torque 130@6800 rpm
Can someone break this information down and make a prediction of each cars performance?
I'm curious about the Vibe with 180 Hp and 130FT Lbs. to all the others. Seems odd somehow?
Also, is there an ideal HP to Torque ratio?
TIA Frank
Is there an ideal ratio? Not sure about that one. I can tell you that I've found cars that have torque and hp numbers which are numerically similar to each other to be quite responsive. In other words, 180 hp and 180 ft.lbs. is a nice balance AS LONG AS (which brings me to another point) the hp and torque curve nicely along the RPM band. 180 hp all the way up at 7600 rpm isn't bad as long as I've got a good percentage of that number available at 2500. Personally, I like my torque down low and hp high. Seems like a nice balance for my driving habits. And it makes for a nice distribution of power throughout the band.
Seems to me the starting point of the Vibe isn't a good one. That is a wide margin between hp and torque and both peaks are WAY up in the RPM band. It would make normal around town driving pretty darned sluggish. HOWEVER, if you had those numbers in a 2200 lb. car, it would probably be pretty quick. Am I helping at all?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Seems they really messed up with the engine. Nothing makes sense.
Seems the 130HP Matrix above would be more responsive around town? But, not on the highway.
Meanwhile the AWD feature is coupled with a 123Hp engine when it should have the 180Hp. The result of rushing a product to market?
Thanks for the feedback.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Anyone have a similar / different experience I am not inclined after this experience to upgrade, and am going to look at the GTI 1.8T.
thanks,
That's not to say there isn't a noticeable difference from the SVT engine tuning.
Prescott is indeed a beautiful place. I took the I-10 from LA then turned off on Arizona 60 and took it (and highways 71 and 89) to Prescott. All good SVT roads. Although I stayed at my sister's place in Prescott, the main reason I went was to pick up some of the excellent corn they grow in Dewey which is about 15 miles east of Prescott. If anyone is in the area, a really good drive is from Prescott to Clarkdale (via Jerome) then ride the Verde Canyon RR in Clarkdale. Great train ride (takes about 3 1/2 hrs) and the road is a great SVTF drive - though I've yet to take it in my SVT. Thanx for the suggestion to watch the rally. I think I'll have to miss it though since I'm taking time off to go to the USGP at Indy at the end of next month.
Sorry to stray so far off topic. Keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down.
I just got back to LA and I have got to stop by the exotic car rental by LAX where they have the Modena sitting out front. How much could a day in it possibly be...?
I also rented a Lincoln LSV8 and wasn't that impressed with it either. I think it and the XK8 use the same transmission (ZF? BMW?) and the LS didn't want to downshift either.
I talked to the owner and you can drop in a factory fresh 302/5.0L 325 hp stock, with this kit for about $10K. Even though it is a highly modified car, it can, by the owners words pull low 13's to high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Wouldn't you love to pull up next to a Mustang, Camaro or even a Vette and smoke them?