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I would wait until after Ugust 1st to see if they have a better incentive.
2021 Genesis G90
I don't know the history of USAA incentives but surprised there was very little difference between the 2012 and 2013 incentives in August. Of course the dealers are much more liberal with the non USAA discounts on the 2012.
Wondering if the above pricing is fair, ask for a steeper discount, or if I should wait until the end of the year and see if the deals get better.
Options included:
Premium 2 pkg.
Lane Keeping / Blind Spot Monitor pkg.
Comfort Box
Diamond White Metallic Paint (extra cost option over metallic)
Leather Seats
Wood/Leather Steering Wheel for Sport
AMG Wheel Package
Wheel Locks
Split/Folding Rear Seats
Was able to get the USAA pricing at $2000 below invoice (USAA pricing is $500 over invoice less $2500). Never had a Diamond White car before, but it sure is beautiful.
2021 Genesis G90
I was just considering the same car, color combo and options. Did you get the black roof on the diamond white which I believe is the panoramic roof?
I've heard there are solid deals on this vehicle. What did you pay?
Enjoy the new wheels.
I did not get the panorama roof - allows too much sunlight and glare into the car and does not have the strength integrity as the one without the panorama roof, in my opinion.
Car MSRP was $64,869.00. I got USAA pricing which is a net of $2000 below invoice (must be a USAA member) and I am a member of the Mercedes Benz Club of America where I got additional incentive. My final price was $57,500 + tax and title/registration.
You might want to compare Diamond White with Polar White - Diamond White costs $1550 more than Polar white, or $750 over regular metallic paint. I also got natural beige leather (saddle color) which set the car off beautifully.
2021 Genesis G90
I saw an ad in today's paper (Ft. Lauderdale's Sun Sentinel) for $579+tax a month, 36 months, $4569 due at lease signing, 10,000 miles a year. Looks like an AutoNation Ad since it listed only the 6 autonation dealers down here in South Florida.
I believe you can do much better than that. When you shop for a lease on a Mercedes, you are interested in several things - the money factor (or interest on the loan for the lease) and the residualized cap cost (selling price), miles per year, length of the lease in months, and MSRP of the vehicle you are leasing (to determine what kind of discount they are giving you when compared to the selling price or cap cost).
I would think that if you went online to mbusa.com and clicked on "specials", I believe there is a lease there as well.
A lot depends on where you lease the car. Here in South Florida, I recommend Mercedes Benz of Delray - best of all the Auto Nation dealerships. If you mention my name and my Diamaond White/Natural Beige leather E350 Sport to one of the sales managers or the general manager of the dealership, (abacomike), they will give you a sweet deal, believe me.
But if you are not here in South Florida, I cannot help you. As a suggestion, go to at least 3 Benz dealerships, saving the biggest/largest for last, and get some pricing. Usually the bigger dealerships have the most to gain by making a lean deal whereas the smaller dealerships have more difficulty due to their lower sales volume.
Good LUck!
2021 Genesis G90
Good luck.
Build the car here on Edmunds. Go to "New Cars", select Mercedes Benz, select E Class, select Luxury 4 door sedan, then select your color (diamond white is a double option extra cost item), select leather, and all your options. When you get invoice for the car, that is your offer to the dealer. If you are trading another luxury car or drive a competing luxury make, there is a conquest incentive of $2000 available to you, so your offer can be $2000 under invoice.
If you can get them to $1500 under invoice if you qualify for the conquest incentive, that would be a great deal!
2021 Genesis G90
Trim and blind spot monitoring.
You must be a USAA member. To become a member, you or your spouse or a close family member must be on active duty or be a veteran. You should visit USAA.com and follow the instructions on how to become a member. Once you qualify and become a member, they will help you with their car-buying service.
But without membership, it would not be available to you.
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i'm usaa member.
for the USAA incentive around 2000$
did you have to take a loan out with USAA to qualify?
through usaa car buying it says that i have to loan with usaa to get usaa pricing.
thanks
for the USAA incentive around 2000$
did you have to take a loan out with USAA to qualify?
No. The incentive is $2500. Take the invoice of the car, add $500, then subtract $2500 (or $2000 below invoice). I've never heard of that! I always finance through Mercedes Benz Financial. So long as you qualify for their buying service and present your USAA membership card (navy blue and white plastic card with your membership number) to the dealer, they contact USAA for you - at least that is how I've done it for several new cars).
You should call USAA to make sure. I guess it's possible they added that requirement this month - but it is doubtful. Let me know how you make out!
2021 Genesis G90
I am in the market for CPO 2011 E350 with good options.
One that I found is 2011 E350 Bluetec CPO with Premium2 and sport pkg. about 25,000 miles.
It's listed as $45,872.
Is this a reasonable price?
Thank you all in advance.
I am in the market for CPO 2011 E350 with good options.
One that I found is 2011 E350 Bluetec CPO with Premium2 and sport pkg. about 25,000 miles. It's listed as $45,872...
So long as the car is "certified" and is in pristine condition, I would go for $43,500. It is a diesel, which is not necessarily high in resale, but those engines last forever!
If you plan on keeping it for several years, I would pay $43,500.
Good luck!
2021 Genesis G90
So should I go for that price excluding tax, any other fees or OTD?
Also, do u have any other advise?
Thank you,
2021 Genesis G90
BTW, I thought the CPO warranty is 12 months extended to factory warranty so wouldn't it make 5 years and 100,000 miles?
2021 Genesis G90
Right now, there is a $4000 incentive on E350's, however I don't know if it applies to 4-Matics - you should check with the dealer - it might only be on the rear wheel drive cars. I heard that there is a $2000 incentive on the 4-Matic. Again, you need to check on this at several dealers.
Let's assume you can get a $2000 incentive on your desired car. Invoice is about $58,000 so subtract the incentive from invoice and you are at $56000. I would offer $56250 and see what they say.
If you build the car here on Edmunds, they will show you what the average person is paying without that little known incentive. This assumes a $2000 incentive. If it is $4000, subtract $4000 from invoice.
Good luck!
2021 Genesis G90
I am in the market for an E350 sedan either new (2012/2013) or CPO 2010/2011, black exerior, light color interior. Not sure where to start and how to determine the best price for the car?
Any help is truly appreciated!
Thanks!
Not sure if I overpaid for the 2-year additional warranty up to 75K because I read in some places between 2000 and 2400, and I paid 2.6K including taxes. But I'm happy because it will allow me to keep my car longer, and if I trade it in after 5 years it will add value to the trade. Rides greats, super quiet. I cannot feel the engine running while stopped. And it feels like those Cadillac of yester-year (very smooth and comfortable.
Base MSRP IS $52,000 (according to my dealer)
I ordered the car as follows:
Iridium Silver Metallic
Black Leather (required with ventilated seats)
Premium 1 (same as 2013 option)
Keyless-Go Package (includes electric trunk open/close and keyless start/entry)
Ventilated Seats
Lighting Package (full LED headlights and LED daytime; curb illumination; high beam assist; adaptive lighting; multicolor interior ambient lighting)
Wood Leather Steering Wheel for Sport
AMG Wheel Package with sport Steering Wheel
Rear Spoiler
Illuminated Door Sills
Wheel Locks
MSRP expected to be $65,000+
Looking forward to taking delivery. The 2014 Sport will be significantly different from the luxury model - no more Star hood ornament and CLS 550 instrument cluster - new dash and new seats.
2021 Genesis G90
Well, I forgot the lane-tracking package for $900, so add that.
$52000.00 +
$900.00 (Lane tracking)
$4500.00. (Premium package)
$1500.00. (Lighting package)
$850.00. (Keyless Go w powered open/close trunk)
$1700.00 (leather)
$760.00. (Metallic paint)
$550.00. (Wood leather steering wheel)
$750.00. (AMG wheel package)
$350.00. (Rear spoiler)
$450.00. (Ventilated seats)
$800.00. (Illuminated door sills)
$910.00. (Shipping and transportation)
As you can see, it adds up. Keyless go package includes some of what P2 pkg used to have above and beyond keyless go.
These prices are estimated and will probably be higher with the devalued US dollar.
As for design refresh, this is a refresh for the luxury version, but a major change for the sport version. I was told that the predicted body change for 2015 has been delayed for 2 years. That's why I'm buying now rather than 18 months from now.
2021 Genesis G90
I just got off the phone with my sales manager at my dealership whom I know personally. He tells me that there won't be a body change in 2015! He said the Mercedes Benz marketing and sales people were at his dealership last week for meetings about upcoming vehicles. The question about the E Class overhaul which was originally scheduled for 2015 has been moved back because of the more than 4500 new parts and changes being made to the 2014. Normally it would have been a refresh, but this was more than just a refresh.
Dashboard is almost a duplicate of of the 2013 CLS 550. Electric steering; ECO start/stop, foot release for trunk, thicker and more comfortable seats, 7" display (was 6"), new air vents, new lighting front and rear, addition of 100% LED lighting package, entirely new front end for sport model, entirely new sheet metal for rear quarter panels, completely new ambient lighting, increased use of natural woods, to name a few.
The most recent info puts the revamp of the E Class in 2016 or 2017.
That's what I have available at this juncture.
Production on the 2014's begins after March 3rd. My car is scheduled for production between March 15-31. Release date for the 2014's is tentatively scheduled for May 1, 2013.
2021 Genesis G90
Would love to get my hands on your "nearly new" trade-ins" sometime.
All it takes is a one way trip down to south Florida, graphicguy. The one I have now is a Diamond White 2013 with natural beige leather, Premium 2 Pkg, rear spoiler, AMG Wheel Pkg, Lane Keeping and Blinds Spot Pkg., Wood/Leather Sport Steering wheel, Wheel Locks, Rear Comfort Box (in trunk), MSRP was $65,000.00. I have 4,500 miles on it and by the time the new one gets here, it will probably be closer to 6000 miles.
I expect him to give me about $51,000 for the trade - the car has no dings, scratches, etc. and is actually showroom condition. I usually make out better with a trade since I don't pay sales tax on the trade - saves me about $3000 in taxes. I would have to sell it for $54,000 to break even. A new one just like the one I have is selling for $57,500 (assuming conquest incentives).
So I usually just trade them since they give me top trade value for the cars I trade each year and then sell them almost immediately on their lot and make a few thousand for themselves.
I was up to the dealership this morning for a carwash and reviewed the order they placed. It will be the perfect car for me assuming I like what I see. If I don't like it, I will just keep this one.
2021 Genesis G90
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-31/mercedes-dangles-5-000-vip-discounts-to- -hold-u-s-lead-over-bmw.html?cmpid%3Dyhoo
That pull ahead program is for leased vehicles only, unfortunately. As for special incentives like they mention, you can't use those in conjunction with USAA BUYING SERVICE, which is a $2000 below invoice deal - and I can use my $1000 Mercedes Club bonus with USAA. So I make out better the way I do it - requires the dealer to sell me the car below invoice.
I'm hoping there will be some additional incentives to bring in E Class owners to trade their E's on the newly revamped E.
My dealer ( I work with the GM ) is always up front with me on every incentive I can qualify for.
My fingers are crossed this time for the loyalty incentive from Mercedes Brnz Credit.
Thanks for the info, GG
2021 Genesis G90
Is it in "bad taste" to ask your dealer for the VIP money from Mercedes?
No, not with the relationship that I have with my dealership. But, you cannot combine certain incentives with other incentives. As I mentioned before, I can combine the USAA "below invoice price" with the Mercedes Benz Club of America Coupon for $1000. I can also combine the Mercedes Benz Financial Services Loyalty incentive (if it becomes available again) with the other two incentives. But you cannot combine any other incentives or discounts with those three.
When I traded in my Lexus (which I hated) for the 2013 Mercedes, I did not take the conquest incentive because I made out better with the USAA pricing below invoice plus Mercedes Benz Club coupon.
When my car comes in from Germany in late April, he will probably consider the VIP incentive, but I will still do better with USAA pricing, depending upon the pricing incentives they have available on the 2014's. Sometimes, at the beginning of a new model year, they give an amount below MSRP as their incentive, so the VIP incentive would be better for me. Whatever I do better with, that is what he gives me.
He does not mind selling me cars for very small profits or no profits because I send him so much business - besides, he always has a very good customer - according to him, his best customer.
We'll see what happens - I won't know until late April.
2021 Genesis G90
I now have a white on black car with P2/pano/parktronic/lane tracking/power outlet/folding seat/spoiler. MSRP over 63K, they gave me a fair price for my old car, I threw in $3500 from that, payment is ~$570 + tax, 24 months, 10K/yr (I live close to work). I hope that's a fair deal, seemed to be cheaper than anything I had seen so far. I know they are blowing out these cars for the upcoming facelift, but I like the quad light design more.
I am looking at ordering a 2014 E350, but my dealer has no info, no delivery, nothing. Have you confirmed that yours has been built. I have a couple friends who just returned from Germany where they took delivery of a 2013 E350 Wagon and they said the 2014's were not in production yet - that was last week - they were at the plant!
Also, I am interested in the Diamond White, but have never seen one. Is it more Ivory than White?
I did order mine - 2014 E350 Sport Sedan in Iridium Silver, Gray perforated Leather, Lane Tracking/Blind Spot Monitor, Ventilated Seats, Wheel Package, LED front Lighting Package, Rear Spoiler, Wood Steering Wheel, Wheel Locks, Comfort Box, Keyless Go Package, Premium Package.
It was ordered 5 weeks ago and is scheduled to be built April 2nd.
The ordering info has been available to dealers for 6 weeks, so either your dealer is an idiot or he is lying to you. My dealer already has 40 of them on order. Mine is expected to be here on or about the first week of May.
As for Diamond White, which is what I have now with Saddle Leather Interior (natural beige leather is discontinued for 2014), it is about $760 more than regular metallic paint, and about $1600 more than Polar White. The Diamond White is a bit off white whereas polar white is a true bright white. If the cost is not detracting you, get the Diamond White. Much more elegant that a white enamel.
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