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They will ask you questions such as date of separation from the armed forces (if no longer active), etc.
2021 Genesis G90
I am in the process of emailing to the dealar and set up an appointment for t'row and try to get one of the older cars that I listed earlier.....
Let us see whether they agree on my proposal...
Go into the dealer, make your best deal on a 2011 E class sedan and mention nothing about the conquest program. Then, lay on them that you expect the conquest discount of $4000, since you drive an Infiniti. I saw nothing in the ads for the conquest program about the age of the vehicle you are driving or the model.
Good luck.
2021 Genesis G90
Anyone can join USAA and attain most of their products (checking account, investments, etc). However, auto insurance is only provided to those that have served or are currently serving in the military (or married/divorced to someone who has served, any in-law whom may have served, or parents).
MB dealers that I talked to stated that you have to have the auto insurance, however some postings on this discussion board state otherwise.
How do I find out the official rules?
2021 Genesis G90
Yesterday i went to my local MB dealer. Between the palladium silver and Stee Grey, I loved the steel grey with panoromic sunroof. Anyways...we started negotiating and of course we did not reach a deal....since the dealer was not ready to come below ~47K. We found out during negotiation that this car came with Premium2 pkg and also night assist option, so the price was higher. I was direct to the dealer that I am not interested in any of these options so will not pay additional cost for these....and can wait till I get the correct car.....
Lets see...there is another 2010 with 17K miles with Prem 1 and AMG listed for 43K.....I will target this now....
Thanks for your help guys....I will keep you updated
KC
Of course, if you don't qualify for the USAA program, you may still be able to qualify for a $4k discount through the Conquest incentive. In fact, my dealer said they preferred dealing with the Conquest discount.
2021 Genesis G90
I just now closed the deal on my CPO 2010 E350 with the dealer. They called me and agreed to my proposal. I will pick the car on Tuesday....once they get it detailed and also get a spoiler. Here are the details of the car...
Model: 2010 E350
Color: Steel Grey
Options: Premium2, AMG Sport, Night Assist, Pano roof
Marked Price: 48981
KBB value: 50705
My purchase price: 42000. (my initial offer was 41500....but I just added an additional 500 to close the deal....)
Thanks a lot to abacomike, who helped me to make the deal......if it was not for him, I might have started negotiating at a much higher price....I am no expert in negotiating car prices....so thanks to all the experts in this forum who help people like me to get a good deal....
I am sure some of you migh have got this car at 40 or 41K, but I am happy with my deal.
Thanks
KC
Sounds like it won't work out for me becuase I doubt I'd get an authorization number.
Good luck with the car.
2021 Genesis G90
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I am going to guess that a 4 matic with Prem. 1 MSRP's at about $57,500.00. Invoice is about $52,500. Less $4000.00 is $48,500, less 1500 is about $47000 +tax, tags, etc.
The place where I go for pricing on auctions for preowned vehicles is Manheim. I have a friend who looks it up for me. That is the prices that are going for auctioned vehicles.
I paid $46600 for a 56495 MSRP vehicle down here in Florida. I got a great deal, but I usually do from my dealer.
Good LUck
2021 Genesis G90
car list $58,025- Steel grey- Prem pkg 1,split seats
lease pay $639.32 for 33 mos including 3 yr maintenance, inceptions only down, 15,000 miles
Salesman Doug and sales manager Frank treated me well and gave me the best price right away.
I would recommend this dealership.
Guess my luck. Yesterday I was supposed to get my car, but the dealer called me to say that the car was having some issue with starting and they are working on it. They have been working on the car since Monday, and still they have not been able to find the cause of the problem. So the GM of the dealership asked his used sales manager to get another similar car for me.......now I am waiting :-)
Just wanted to update you....I will keep you posted. I already notified the dealer that I am not interested in P2, so if they get a car with P1 and Pano, that would work for me, but in that case I will pay only 41K.....
My wife and I are considering a purchase of a 2011 E-Class E350 Wagon (options below). I'm trying to get at what I should pay for this car. I'm aware of the $4,000 "Conquest" program that would be available to me since we are BMW owners right now.
However, when I view online pricing guides (paid reports from consumerreports.org or free data on truecar.com - link @ bottom), these make no mention of the $4k Conquest incentive. I'm guessing their data is out of date, and that I can take their "target price" and drop $4k from it. So instead of $58,783, I'd ideally pay $54,783. ** OR ** would folks recommend starting from, say, dealer cost...then giving them $800 for their efforts then subtract $4k to get to: $56,279 + 800 - $4,000 = $53,079?
I want to ensure that when I go out to my local dealer with this proposal that I will be in the ballpark and not wasting everyone's time.
Many thanks for your thoughts!
[2011 E350 WAGON - Sport, Capri Blue, Premium 1 pkg, Wheel pkg]
http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/mercedes-benz/e-class-pricing/2011/7FBCE2F4/?z- ipcode=94549&optionInfo=6808463,6808452,6808448,6874416,6808481,6808477,6808484&- incentiveInfo=&colorInfo=846260,845960
Don't go in and announce the incentive to them up front. YOu will find that many of them will not bring this up with the hopes they can get you to buy without knowing about the incentive, which means they pocket the $4000 for themselves.
Always go in; get your best price; then lay on them the incentive and that you are aware of it. IF they "hem and haw" that they know nothing about it, walk out!
2021 Genesis G90
Also, does the invoice prince change? I'm thinking that the 2012 model will start to arrive soon and that the dealers here have a glut of the 2011 cars on the lot, so I would think that they might be motivated to move some cars, and would like to try and really cut a deal on any car they have sitting on the lot.
BTW, Abacomike, what was the additional 1500 rebate for???
Secondly, used car prices have skyrocketed. I have looked at Manheim, which is the auctions, and prices have been unbelievable.
I would buy the new car, not the used car, for sure. I paid under 47K for mine with the discounts.
Hope this "food for thought" has been helpful.
2021 Genesis G90
Also, does anyone know then the 4000 rebate for USAA ends, some places say July 31, and others say August.
I believe this is good until August 31, 2011. Check back on this forum site to about 2 weeks ago, I believe the date was listed there.
I received an additional $1500 because I was a loyal customer of theirs. I've purchased 5 Benz autos from them in the past couple of years, so they said I qualified for an additional incentive, which they had.
USAA will show you the actual vehicle invoice cost when you look it up after you have built your car the way you want.
2021 Genesis G90
We picked up today 2011 E350 4matic that was $58,525 MSRP and got $8200 off, plus a service coupon.
The GM did clarify to me that the Conquest was $4K this month (give copy of registration). I could not get any loyalty discount as well, (stated prior as ~1500) as we were told it was one or the other and that the loyalty was for someone financing thru MB. We do have a MB, but not purchased at this dealer.
With other dealers I mentioned wanting both program discounts, but only got conquest discount.
Say Abacomike, I know that you said you've bought a few MBs from same dealer, i was wondering if you give them a trade-in or something that helps them get to your great purchase prices?
Thanks.
p.s., The car is elegant and all, but I think the variable assist steering and heavy weight and feeling of not so quick acceleration make it a pure luxury car and not as sporty as BMW/Audi lines. Next time, I'll get the E550 :shades:
They just give me their very best pricing (they beat all the other dealers here in South Florida by thousands) because I buy a car from them every year and refer many associates and friends to their dealership.
Hope this helps understanding how I get the best pricing. I would assume not everyone can get this at their dealership. But I have seen pricing on this forum that comes pretty close to what I get. I just seem to get a great upfront deal along with high trade in values since they can sell the vehicle on their lot and they don't have to wholesale it.
They sold my trade from last month for $48,500, and gave me 44,500, or $4000 over what they gave me. They had to get the car certified, which costs them about $1500 or so. What I don't understand is how they can sell my year old car for a little more than I paid for my new 2011. I know the used car market is booming (prices have risen an average of 15% on used cars of the last year.
Good LUck
2021 Genesis G90
They advertised the car for 49,990 on the lot. Most people would have to pay 52,000 for a new 2011. So I guess they figured that it was a great deal. Remember, there is a sucker born every minute, and most of those suckers don't read the forum here on Edmunds.
Also, remember that they got the car certified which means the warranty goes to a total of 100K and 7 years. So to some people, it is worth it.
2021 Genesis G90
Thoughts??
Are you sure you are using the site correctly? Double check or call USAA and speak with a customer service rep. If you qualify, they will give you the info on the phone.
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2021 Genesis G90
Like I said, I believe it is until 8/31/2011, but I could be wrong. If it is 8/31, you have awhile. But according to my Mercedes Dealer, each dealer has so many they can use. Check that out.
2021 Genesis G90
mind me asking where you got 46k 0 down 620 month offer, I am in nor cal also
The $1095 acquisition fee is highway robbery...Audi, for example, only charges $595.
The $595 lease termination fee is obscene as well...industry standard is $350ish.
Otherwise, cars (one c320 wagon, e320wagon, two e350s) have been mixed...new 350 engine is great, but a real gas guzzler. nav/audio system is awful. seats, handling fantastic. highway crusing superb. comfortable for 4.
i had two black/black cars...while they looked great when clean (which lasted only about 6 hours), when dirty they look awful. i would only get a light exterior color and either beige or light grey interior, fwiw.
also, if you plan on leasing another benz, don't buy the prepaid maintenance or excess wear and tear... two reasons: car is totalled/stolen you've paid for nothing, and when buying a new MBZ the dealer will overlook nearly everything...my last trade in had at least $1500 worth of exterior damage!
and for people looking for 2011 e class, the new engine will be 20% more powerful and 20% more efficient...plus a 7 inch color display. if you're going to spend all this money (at least 10k/year inc. insurance/gas/car details), spend the extra $100/month and get the new model.
MB Finance only charges $795.. the other $300 is dealer markup (with MBFinance permission)...
BMWFS is $725 (which they allow to be marked up to $925)..
I agree.. it's a ridiculous amount...
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That's why I just got a silver one with black interior. The silver shows "nothing". The black interior shows no grime or grit like my beige and light grays used to show.
As for leasing, I haven't leased in 10 years, but I would never pay that king of uprfront money for a lease. It is robbery, in my opinion.
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Cheers!
So, if you want to get one of the first ones available, now is the time to order one.
2021 Genesis G90
Capri Blue E350 4 matic Sport package
Premium package 2
Parktronic guidance, panorama sunroof, rear deck spoiler, 115 V outlet
USAA discount ($3850 off of dealer invoice price), plus extra $1000 (negotiated with no trade in or financing)
MSRP=$62,424 (including $875 destination charge)
Price paid=$53,763
OTD price (tag, title, tax, fees)=$58,082.10
Good luck!
Sorry to bother you again.....but as I mentioned to you earlier that the deal that I made on the CPO car did not go through....since the car had some starter issues. The service center of my MB dealer also found out that this car had some water in the engine and so the GM does not want to sell this car to me since he thinks even though it is a CPO car I will be visiting the service center too often.....
But since they do not have any other pre-owned car that meets my requirements, he has offered me a deal on a new 2011 E350 ....
2011 E350W $49,400
040 Black
105 Almond MB-Tex
P01 P01 Premium Package:
R08 R08 Wheel Package: 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke ,
18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels
Accessory Styling Package (Rear Deck and 3-Spoke Sport Steering Wheel ), AMG Sport Package,
Power Tilt / Sliding Panorama Sunroof
Black Ash Wood Trim
Heated Front Seats
SUBTOTAL $55,850
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
TOTAL $56,725
He is offering me this at $47200, because he wants to make up for the problenm I had with the CPO car.
My only issue is that this car does not have the metallic paint...just the ordinary black paint :-(....but I think that the deal is good....what is your thought on this...should I go ahead....I might be able to get him lower the price by another 1000....
I would really appreciate your feedback....I doubt whether anyone else in my locality will give me this deal...
Thanks
KC
Can I assume he is giving you the conquest discount? It seems from the pricing that he did.
Unless he has another color (I just got rid of my black car and got a silver one because black shows everything, and I mean everything), which I would choose over black (gray, silver, white), I would take the deal. You are getting about 9500+ off the sticker, which is what I got on my car.
So, unless you can't find another dealer with a different color, I would jump at it.
Good LUck
2021 Genesis G90
Yes, you are correct they are doing the Conquest and I think they are also adding the MB dealer loyalty discount, since the GM introduced me to the sales manager by saying he is one of the most loyal customer so make a deal on a new car of his choice that is the best.....since we could not deliver his selected CPO car....
I had suggested 45K, when the GM came back and said that his final price is 47200......I will talk to them soon and maybe close the deal......too bad I could not get the steel grey....but this deal is too good.....
Thanks
KC
I asked for $1000 more off the price (beyond the USAA discount), but I don't know what the dealer is calling it. He did take down the information that I have an Acura MDX (not used for trade-in though).
Curious thing that I only noticed AFTER I got home. The window sticker lists the P02 Premium Package, but heated front seats are listed separate from the package. There AREN'T ventilated seats, which should be part of the P02 package I thought....
At least in MN most of the time that shouldn't matter!!
If you are getting a brand new 2011 E350 with that equipment for the number you listed, it is an excellent price. Rememeber, they cannot give you the conquest discount "and" the USAA discount, it is one or the other. Sounds like a terrific deal.
Good LUck.
2021 Genesis G90
I think it's good deal but don't know what you guys think. BTW, it's pretty easy to get a good deal from them, just ask for Ed.
William
Model: 2011 E350
Color: Steel Grey with ash/black interior and black maple wood trim
755 Steel Grey $720
108 Ash MB-Tex
P01 P01 Premium Package: $4,000
R32 18" 5-Spoke Wheel
321 321 Sport Package: 18" 5-Spoke Alloy Whe
413 Power Tilt / Sliding Panorama Sunroof $1,090
736 Black Ash Wood Trim
873 Heated Front Seats
917 PZEV-Emission, USA
SUBTOTAL $55,210
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
TOTAL $56,085
With the standard steering the deal was made at $46104 ($9981 below MSRP), but finally I paid $46475, and made the dealer change my steering wheel to the sport 3-spoke steering wheel.
Thanks for all the help.