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Paid $15,475 (including destination) for the 2009 Civic LX Sedan plus tax, title, doc fee, etc. Luckily I was able to get $4,500 for our clunker trade-in before the govt put the CARS program on hold. Was this a good / bad deal?
chicago is a 3 hr drive for me but price seems quite reasonable. How much was the OTD?
Thanks
Negotiated Price- 15900
Destination- 670
NYS sales tax- 1388
Doc charge- 250
Reg/ title- 195
OTD Price- 18403
Got a few internet quotes and ended up going with the lowest one I got. Definitely get in touch with Yajaira at DCH Paramus. She will not push you into getting unnecessary options and will try to get you the best price possible. Hope this helps.
point is if I need to pay $3000+ tax more to get $4500 rebate? of course they have right to sell their cars in full msrp price and also keep the manufacturer to dealer incentive, then the CFC program can benefit the dealer to sell all their overstocks in full MSRP price. One dealer explained to me the paperwork involved in a cash-for-clunkers deal is 6 times heavier than a regular sale, so they are not willing to lose money when doing that much extra work. :mad:
Negotiated price (incl. destination) - $16551
Document fee - $250
Title/Filing fees - $25
OH sales tax - $1134
Total Price - $17960
Less CARS Voucher - $4500
OTD price - $13460
I think I did pretty well.
With that kind of price it sounds like they are not giving you the $1000 factory to dealer incentive. The best way to get better prices is to make them compete by going to different dealers and negotiating down from a previous offer. If you have time it is best to get quotes through the internet dept through edmunds. It is easier to do this from your home instead of driving around. You can negotiate through email and the phone and then go to a few dealers and beat them down as the internest pricing will not be their best price.
good luck.
They are not going to have me sign the contract and take the car until in about 2 weeks because they are going to make sure my 'cars for clunkers' application is approved first.
With the $4500 CFC deal and the scrap value, the total cost for the new car was less than 12,400.
The salesperson that helped me was Mike Fabian. I had the car the same day and I would definitely go to him at DCH Kay Honda in the future.
I'm a little worried I won't be able to get my Civic. With my paperwork to trade my truck in, my title still has a bank on there as the lienholder because I don't know what happened to the release that we would have gotten years ago. If I can't get the bank to provide me with a release tomorrow, I won't be able to trade in and get the Civic.
Lx LX-S
edmunds inv 17528 18079
truecar inv 17711 18267
I sent out request for quotes within one hundred miles from my area in NYC. I included NY, NJ and PA. I only got back about 5 quotes in e-mail, I guess dealers were too busy dealing with the rush from the C.A.R.S Program.
All quotes were within $300 of each other, ranging from $16,300 to $16005. $16,300 was the closest dealer to me in NYC and $16,005 was in Philadelphia area.
Then I received a call from the "Internet Sales Specialist" at Plaza Auto Mall in Brooklyn,NY. We spoke for a few minutes, I told her the car I wanted and the best qoute I received of $16,005 she said today was my lucky day because she was going to sell me the car for $15140. I said that would be $15,140 plus Dest. charges am I correct. She said no sir that would be the total and I would only have to add tax and tags to the $15,140 price. I then asked again if there were any other fees added on that I should know about or Doc Fees she said no sir.
I went on to ask if my 2 color choices were available, she had me hold on for a minute, and then said she had 4 in my first choice and 3 or 4 in my second choice. I hung up the phone and made the trip to Plaza Auto Mall about 1/2 hour away from my house. When I arrive at the dealer she the "Internet Sales Specialist"
hands me off to a sales rep, when all is said and done the price comes $16,400 before tax and tags. I told him the quote was $1260 less at $15,140, he tells me that is before Dest. charges and the dealer prep fee of almost $500. I said I was told more than once by the internet sales specialist to only add tax and tags to the $15,140 . After some minutes going back and forth the sales rep called his sales manager into the conversation, then they said they were trying to locate the "Internet Sales Specialist" I spoke with earlier but she could not be found. After all the BS I also found out they didn't even have a car in my first 2 color choices after I was told they had 7 or 8 in my 2 color choices. I've seen plenty of car dealer tactics In all my years of buying new cars, but I have never seen anything as unprofessional as at Plaza Auto Mall. I spoke with a family member who also had a very bad experience at Plaza Auto Mall in Brooklyn, NY. Wound up at another dealer, and now I'm waiting on the approval to go through on my clunker at another dealer in NYC. Will post details when all is done
Here's my deal.. it was a home run.
2009 White Honda 4-Door Si $ 19,300 out the door
Honda Rate 2.9 % 24 Months
C4C- 1988 BMW 735i 185k $ 3,500
Total: $ 15,800
This was almost a unreal hand out, Why would anyone say no to free money.. It last one week I wonder why ?
Did you search for dealers through cars.com? I did, and I never had dealers give me a price through the internet. Instead, they called me and gave me their best price. One place beat out another price one dealership gave me over phone. The other one said they can't do better, but maybe if I come in. I did come in a couple days later and did get a better price than over phone but really had to get them to go down. Wasn't a big difference but it was something.
Plaza Auto Mall of Brooklyn N.Y...."the worst dealer in the world"!
The Sandman :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I will prob wait until this wave is over.
stranegly I got a deal for LX-S which was lower than LX.
Are LX-S not popular or was it a mistake of Auto versus Manual?
Dealership: DCH Paramus Honda in NJ
Model: 2009 Civic EX-L AT in atomic blue
Sale Price: $18,503
Destination: $710
Trade In: N/A
NJ 7% Tax: $1,344.91
DMV: $299
DOC: $249
NJ Tire: $7.5
Final OTD: $21,113.41
Financing: couldn’t get the 3.9% special rate since I took the incentive
If anyone is looking for a Honda in northern Jersey, I will recommend to go to DCH Paramus Honda. The dealership has a very large volume of inventories, so you will have plenty of selections. The sales people are very professional. They won’t keep you waiting for hours. I think the business is picking up since the C.A.R.S program rolled out. I haven’t seen so many customers showing up at one dealership for a very long time, but yesterday night the place was crowded.
I think the information from Truecar.com is more helpful than Edmunds or cars.com. Especially check the “Detail” tab on the truecar chart, it will tell you how many cars have been sold at what range of prices. Then you could set up a low but reasonable target for your own price.
Oh wait, mine was for the LX, not LX-S! I don't think I would have gotten the LX-S at the same price.
recently nobody has reported that low a price. Depends a lot on the number of dealers in town
I've been comparing TMV and Truecar pricing, and I'm not sure what's realistic. Truecar says a "great price" is 1100 below invoice (19,500). Do you think they're including the 1000 cash incentive? I'm getting quotes for nearly 20k before taxes and fees here in Houston. I'm sure they'll go lower, but not sure how much.
Buying my first car (in 04) was a huge pain, trying to do as much as I can online/phone this time around.
I made my deal 4 days before days before the C4C Scare, The day I picked up the car at the dealerships it was like a Zoo I'm not sure if they have any left in stock ? they were selling cars like Hot Cakes & that was over 6 Days ago thay had over 40+ C4C in the back lot at that time.
Good luck, I hope you can find one..
Many cars that were selling for $15000 before CFC are now advertised at $17500 or more, with the generous $4000 off from the govt bringing the price down to $13500. (which it would have been for all of us without CFC given the state of car sales and the usual summer clerarance) Awful nice of those dealers to let the pigeon ... er customer keep 1500 of the $4000 don't you think?
Oh! goody! they are going to EXTEND the CFC program for another 2 months with $2,000,000,000 more cash!
More pigeons and artificially higher prices for the 95% of car buyers who don't qualify..... isn't government grand?
Good luck
--jjf
looks like the clunker deluge is eroding the consumer power to negotiate
I will prob wait until this wave is over.
stranegly I got a deal for LX-S which was lower than LX.
Are LX-S not popular or was it a mistake of Auto versus Manual?
coz the cheapest OTD price ( INCLUDES taxes) i was getting is $18,000 for an LX
please advise
Location Palm Harbor Honda Florida
Ask for Gary,
Also, make sure to bargain and inform them that you can get a lower interest rate on the financing. Got mine from 6% down to 4%. COuld not get the 2.9% bc got the 1000 dollar rebate instead.
Make sure to go to edmunds, and get multiple quotes. Dont be tempted to go into the dealerships after getting only a few quotes, bc they call multiple times to try to lure you. Deal with the dealers by e-mail. Less personal, and gives you more time to make an educated decision as to the best price by getting more quotes. Truecar.com is also very helpful
Good luck