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Sounds like you may have a stuck check valve, and the rear planetary set IS overheating which is causing fluid failure, and the sticky down shifts. Even though the Jeep repair shop estimated a higher cost to rebuild my tranny, I spent more in the long run by trying to save a few bucks. By the way, Jeep Corp. service hot line did not know of any service bulletins regarding this check valve failure, even though ATRA claimed it came straight from Jeep. Good luck.
I had a little fender bender last night. I have a 98 Grand Cherokee 4.0 in line 6, and after being rear-ended now the truck won’t start.
I have checked all the fuses in side the cab and in the engine compartment, checked if the fuel pump was not working, checked cables connections,
Un-plugged the battery terminal from the battery to see if the computer reset it self.
I still haven’t got it to start; does any body know what the heck is going on????
Reply A.S.A.P.
Thanks
Mark.
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I appreciate any assistance you may provide. I recently purchased the above vehicle and have been very content with it. However, recently I have noticed a squeaky noise when I hit a slight bump, emanating from the rear right quadrant of the car. It seems like it is around the right wheel. IN other words, as the car bounces, it squeaks with the bounce....a lot like jumping up and down on a bed. We brought it to the dealer (under warranty) and they lubed it, but the problem remains. Any suggestions or ideas about what might be wrong?
Thanks for your help!
I have 1999 Grand Cherokee and today I got the similar problem and symptoms,
engine cranks but won't start, gas gauge reads empty, no fuel pump sound on ignition start, .....so did you ever find out the cause of the no start?
I heard the crank sensor is a possible cause......what was your problem?????
Did the crank sensor do the job ? Where crank sensor located ? How did you replace it?
Thanks,
G
You could try doing a web search or call your Jeep dealer and ask the service manager if that sounds right and how you can reset it.
Engine cranks and turnsover ok.
"Ignition Key circle" shows on dash.
"Check gauge" message shows on dash.
But the engine cannot start..PLEASE HELP if you can.....
thanks
I did the same thing (1/4" dia hole) and ran a clotheshanger wire through it. I thought I saw some water on the ground later, but the next long trip there it was again, sloshing under both the front and rear passenger carpets. I lifted the carpets again and they are showing signs of rotting.
Where is the outlet located? I notice posts mentioning a kinked outlet hose, but I cannot find it.
The evaporator was replaced by Kings Jeep in St. Louis three years ago as a recall, and as they scratched every bezel they could find, broke the gear shift cover AND put the dampers back the wrong side, I took it back. They refused to acknowledge responsibility so I had another dealer fix it ($900!) and document it. I have since filed suit against them.
Are they responsible for the leaking water as well?
Step.
"Never buy a car in its first model year."
Detroit News has the AP item at: http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0509/16/01-317608.htm
I'm wondering if the security (chip in your ign. key) "feature" might be the problem which Ign. key circle fault may be indicating and preventing you from firing though still allowing you to turn it over.
Just some random thoughts...
Melonman
I guess it could happen with the different transmission used in the 8 cylinder models, but there is no evidence of that yet -- except maybe your case!
The AP article says the recall will be out in October. I looked on the NHTSA web page and they have it indexed in but they do not have the text of it there yet. We (those of us with the 3.7 engine) should get letters from Daimler-Chrysler shortly afterwards. I am not sure what the fix will be -- it might be to replace the fill tube with one that fits into the transmission better, or it might just be to place RTV sealant around the fill tube entry point (that is what the TSB calls for). Good luck with your JGC -- I love mine -- hope this problem doesn't affect you. Something like this can cause someone to never buy another Jeep.
Thanks,
Deb
If so can you please share it with me. I have been without my vehicle for 5 weeks now and the dealer has no CLUE as what to change out next. Tried BCM. Instrument cluster, PCM and several relays. still having issues... Let me know what you came up with.. Thanks
Mark J.
I am currently trying to set a time to meet with DC reps to discuss what they are going to do with the paint issue. Any pointers or suggestions that can help in my future meetings with DC? I want this resolved.
Should I use any means necessary to make sure it perforates before September 2006?
I found it extremely funny that as your last comment on your post, you wrote: Don't buy a new car in its first year. If no one bought them in the first m/y, we wouldn't even have conversations about this topic because it wouldn't even be in production. Secondly, this is an isolated incident on one particular powertrain on this particular vehicle instead of being linewide. Earlier this month, both GM and Toyota( Imagine That) had MASSIVE recalls on their trucks and suv's. This only affected a one year old vehicle. Toyota and GM affects multiple m/y's. My point is this: It doesn't matter what automaker you choose to buy from, cars are going to have problems simply because we as human beings fail to realize that these automobiles are indeed mechanical, thus problems are inevitable. At least DC got it right this time and did the right thing. Afterall, we also as human beings love to have the newest things out, cars most of all.
P.S.- Check the spelling on this Jack!!!
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Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
JEEP / GRAND CHEROKEE 2005
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 05V396000 Mfg's Report Date : SEP 08, 2005
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 101925
Summary:
ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH 3.7L ENGINES AND NAG1 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS, THE AIR CONDITIONER EVAPORATOR CONDENSATE WATER MAY ENTER THE TRANSMISSION AT THE FILL TUBE GROMMET SEAL. THIS CAN RESULT IN SHUDDER DURING TORQUE CONVERTER CLUTCH ENGAGEMENT.
Consequence:
IT CAN LEAD TO INCREASED TRANSMISSION OPERATING TEMPERATURES, BOILING OF THE WATER, AND A SUBSEQUENT PURGING OF TRANSMISSION FLUID INTO THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT POTENTIALLY RESULTING IN AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION FOR LEAKAGE AT THE FILL TUBE GROMMET SEAL. IF NO LEAK IS DETECTED, A NEW FILL TUBE GROMMET SEAL AND WATER DEFLECTOR SHIELD WILL BE INSTALLED, AND PROPER ALIGNMENT OF THE FILL TUBE VERIFIED. IF THE PRESENCE OF A LEAK IS DETECTED, THE VEHICLE WILL BE EVALUATED FOR SHUDDER DURING TORQUE CONVERTER ENGAGEMENT. IF NO SHUDDER IS DETECTED, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE TRIPLE FLUSHED, AND NEW FILL TUBE GROMMET SEAL AND WATER DEFLECTOR WILL BE INSTALLED AND PROPER ALIGNMENT OF THE FILL TUBE VERIFIED. IF SHUDDER IS DETECTED, THE TORQUE CONVERTER WILL BE REPLACED, A NEW FILL TUBE GROMMET SEAL AND WATER DEFLECTOR WILL BE INSTALLED, AND PROPER ALIGNMENT OF THE FILL TUBE VERIFIED. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN MID-OCTOBER 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT DAIMLERCHRYSLER AT 1-800-853-1403.
Notes:
DAIMLERCHRYSLER RECALL NO. E13. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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Comment: It is important to note that the fix is not the same as specified in the TSB (21-011-05A)! The recall specifies that the fill tube grommet must be replaced with a new one, not just sealed with RTV, even if there is no leak evident yet. So for the three or four members of this forum who have reported the shuddering transmission problem, and had the dealer fix it... even if done according to the TSB... you will need to go back for the recall.
If anyone driving a 2005 jeep has a shuddering problem during shifting (caused by water in the transmission) you need to take the vehicle to your jeep dealer immediately, as the water can cause overheating and a discharge of trans fluid into the engine -- causing a fire.
I should know - I bought a 1999 Grand Cherokee when the WJ model was new and had many of the problems that were endemic to that first year (failed electric windows, computer needing reflashing, the infamous warped brakes, the pernicious tick & pop from the steering column, etc.). Most of these were fixed by TSBs, and a review of the list of TSBs shows that many of these problems were figured out fairly early (although some lingered, and others popped up later).
Check out the WJ model recalls at: http://www.wjjeeps.com/recall.htm
and the WJ TSBs at: http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb.htm
And this is a problem for Daimler-Chrysler, giving rise to their reputation for poor quality. I love Jeeps: I've owned a 97 Cherokee and 99, 02, and 04 Grand Cherokees before buying the 05. They have a lot to offer. They are not overly expensive. I can live with the problems when they are on warranty. But this latest transmission problem is serious, both in numbers (over 100,000 vehicles) and impact (vehicles can catch on fire). No, it is not of the same scale as the Ford cruise control problem. DC appears to be doing all it can -- it takes time to get the procedure and the parts out to the dealers -- and I anticipate they will fix my Jeep just fine. And I will keep driving them. And when they come out with a great looking new WX in 2010, I'll probably rush out and buy one in its first year.
You can't be serious? You would rather continue to spend $30k or more on a vehicle with subpar quality than to buy a vehicle with decent quality. I have a hard time believing that. As you mentioned, you are Jeep lover in which you've owned several. I've owned several myself: 84 Cherokee, '87 Wagoneer, '91 Grand Wagoneer ( A certified classic- last year made), '93 ZJ Limited-5.2, '98 5.9 Limited 2001 JGC Laredo 4.0, 2003 Overland 4.7 H.O., and now 2005 JGC 5.7 Hemi Limited loaded to the roof. I stepped out of the Jeep box once and purchased a--get this-- everyone's favorite '99 Toyota 4-Runner Limited. That thing was plagued with problems from day numero uno. I know that you are going to say that this is a case by case event, but nevertheless TOYota's build quality is supposed to be the Standard Operating Platform in which ALL manufacturer's are to duplicate at all cost. My later model Jeeps indeed rode better than any truck I've ever owned. And as you can see, I've bought a few of them in their first m/y. I do agree with you that Chrysler (Not yet DC in 99) should have did more quality studies in their '99 and early 2000 model WJ's. I also agree with what a lot of my fellow Jeepers are saying in that DC needs to stand behind their product in more problems, whether past,present, or future.
P.S. I would also rate the Jeep's recall behind GM, Ford, and Toyota. GM- brakes that can give out without any notice whatsoever is not only dangerous for you as the owner but potentially fatal to any unsuspecting driver you may encounter. Toyota- A fuel tank that can explode on a dime-- need I say more? But these are all very very serious problems, no matter the manufacturer.