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Thank you.
Thank you.
Is their any reason why you would mention this.....? :mad:
That was Land Rover under BMW ownership.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I baught brand new 2002 Freelander, i continue having problem since i baught. Almost every month i had to take my LR back to garage. Now warranty just expire and i have some trouble with Air intake manifold and Thermostate leak which cause overheating, .... no help from Land Rover, Out of Warranty, ... will cost $1,800. I never see lausy customer service. We need to collectively file suit against LR/Ford. my e-mail: yogeshrpatel@hotmail.com
Or maybe John Grisham's The King of Torts influenced me a bit too much.
No help from LR to fix it, as it just goen out of warrenty.
yogeshrpatel@hotmail.com
If you have not already been added to my email, please send me an email at landrover_lawsuit@hotmail.com
If you have already contacted me, then you have an email from me with the lawyers contact info and next steps. Thank you to everyone for your patience, I know this has been painful for many!!!!
Bridget
In the meantime...if this is affecting your livelyhood...insist on them taking you sooner and let them know that everyday you spend out of work is going to be what you give them as a bill.....or through your lawyer. They have an obligation that they are letting go....they are treating people like dirt and it's just not right.
You can also see how much you can get for it from Toyota or Hyndai.....just for kicks :lemon:
Thanks for the info
Lori
Talk to you soon. Bridget
Took it to LR twice until they would admit a problem. They finally admitted that I needed a complete engine replacement. I was still under warranty, but they said they would not fix it!
I had an attorney send a letter, wrote letters to the local newspapers, but nothing helped. Then I filed a claim w/ the BBB. I got a call from the Consumer Affairs Dept. in NJ saying they would have LR replace my engine...and they would pay for it. I was screaming with joy at work when I got the call after years of frustration. My car has had multiple other issues-bad harmon karden speakers, 3 window regulator replacements, brake pads needing replaced early, etc.
I also had a knocking noise in the front end which they also fixed (installed viscous coupler and carrier barrings supposedly $2,500 in repairs.)
Now that the engine has been replaced, LRNorth America wants me to sign a release and settlement agreement basically giving up any rights or claims I may have against LR in the future. After reading all of this, I don't think I should sign anything.
Any suggestions?
D
Ya, that banging sound too.....had it repaired about 6 times....one time when they actually installed my strutt the wrong way.....don't get me started. Email me your information and i will send you the lawyers contact information. landrover_lawsuit@hotmail.com
Note: if you copy and paste, you have to fix the @ sign as it may be transposed or changed.
thanks, Bridget
Shortly after that I was told that two other cars were brought in that very same week with the same problems. Both which were out of warantee. This is obviously a manufacturing defect, I dont care if the engine was made by a seperate company Landrover should be held accountable for this problem.
The final diagnosis I revieved was that the engine sleve on the motor had dropped enough that the antifreeze lines were dumping antifreeze into the engine. This obviously destroying the engine. I have all documentation for every time I took the car in along with the one that showed all the replaced items on the motor. Feel free to add me to the list. I would like to be reimbursed for all the crap they billed me for for trying to fix the problem that was only just recently solved. I had everythign replaced from water pumps to all sorts of lines. I had these problems for over 25,000 miles. Honestly in the year and a half I had it in atleast twenty times and every time replacing some thing new. I feel sorry for everyone who has run out of warantee. Goodluck with your class action suite. Please feel free to e-mail me and keep me informed on your progress.
Cheers
MAV
Thanks,
Anne
atwalke@yahoo.com
Melissa artthatheals@yahoo.com. If you find anything out let me know
landrover_lawsuit@hotmail.com
(if you copy and paste this address, make sure you double check as the @ sign and _ can be removed or transposed.)
Thank you and look forward to hearing from you.
Bridget
Kim
Meanwhile, LR apparently is addressing these on a case-by-case basis but, in my experience, they're not responding unless you keep pestering. In our case, they've cut a deal with the service center to replace the engine on a warranty basis (even though the car is 15k miles out of warranty) and then split that cost with us. This means we'd pay about $2,500 for the engine replacement instead of $8,000. We shouldn't be paying ANYthing, of course. Does anyone know whether an owner can recoup the cost of repairing or replacing a part (uh, like and engine) if NHTSA recalls that part after the owner has already paid to have it replaced or repaired?
My concern with a class action suit, Bridget, is that it'll take years to reach closure and, once the attorneys' fees have been paid, we won't be made whole individually (even assuming we win). Also, I'd like to do my own due diligence on any law firm that's going to represent me. What's the name of the law firm and have they asked you to collect our contact information?
Please remember to double check email if you cut and paste as the @ sign drops or is transposed. Thank you!
I just authorized the dealer , Matheny Imports Inc. in Jacksonville Florida to replace the original engine, 53060 miles, with a rebuilt. The vehicle has been at the dealership 11 times prior to the installation of the rebuilt engine. In addition to the work at the dealership 4 new tires were installed and the front brake rotors and brake pads were replaced at 26456 by an independent repair shop. The rebuilt cost 6,247.97 and is warranted for 1 year.
The vehicle is out of warranty by 3000 miles and I was denied any relief from Land Rover even though the issue with overheating first became apparate at 45805 miles. My daughter noticed the temperature gauge momentarily spiking and then returning to normal. The service invoice from the dealership states that the problem was due to the expansion tank and cap were leaking. These parts were replaced.
During the 3000 miles after the expansion tank and cap were replaced coolant was added several times approximately a pint at a time, from the low mark on the expansion tank to bring it to the max line. The vehicle was in Ocean City Md. where my daughter has a summer job. The closest dealer is in Virginia Beach which is 250 miles away from Ocean City. When I tried to arrange an appointment at that dealership I was told that since they were the only LR dealership in 450 miles that they were to busy to look at the problem in a timely fashion.
Because of the proximity of a LR dealership and time issues I topped off the expansion tank gave her a gallon of coolant with instructions to her and boyfriend, he is a mechanic, to check the coolant level in the expansion tank every 100 miles and she returned the car to the dealer in Jacksonville Florida. During the trip it was not necessary to add any coolant.
I thought that Land Rover was a quality company that stands behind their products, what an expensive mistake.
I hope to hear from more Freelander owners, misery likes company.
Without any warning the engine lost power, and stopped dead going up a hill on West VA I-77S. I should add this location was 20 miles from any town having a tow service.
Now the fun starts trying to get to Mableton GA. to see our new grandchild.
I asked that the car be towed to the Land Rover Shop in Dayton OH. Cost $420
Next we found a hotel and had a late dinner. Cost $130
In the morning we found it would not be easy to rent a car for one-way out of state. We would need two rental cars, one to get us to a larger city and one to get us out of state. Cost $210.
We made it to GA and have rented the third car. This is for a week allowing time to get back to Dayton. Cost $350.
The Land Rover shop tells me they have looked at my car and it needs a new engine. Cost $3,973.20 plus tax and that Land-Rover will pay $1,500 of the bill.
I will review my options but in the end it will cost me both time and money. The cooling problem should have been fixed the first time it was in the shop. Also I should not need to surf the net to find this is a problem that will take the engine's life at a early age.
I ask the shop what was found to be the cause of the problem and they told me that they do not get paid to check for cause. I then asked if the cooling problems could be the problem and was told no.
If anyone has any ideas other than what is listed on the board let me know.
This engine problem, just after warranty is out, is just one more reason not to own a Freelander.
I have a 2003 that is my wife’s car which has 17k miles. She is a stay at home mom, hence the low mileage. I have two months left on my warranty.
Today I dropped it off at LR because the rear passenger side window motor went bad, the right side was replaced 8 months ago.
Although I have not had any engine or drive train problems, I did have to replace the front brakes at 15k miles which I thought was unusual.
So when I’m sitting with the service writer, he warns me that I should get rid of this vehicle as soon as I can. He goes on to mention all the horror stories about this vehicle that I’ve read here. So when I got home I googled “Freelander problems” and found this site.
The car is paid off and I was actually thinking about keeping it for a while as my wife’s previous car (Mazda MX-3) we had for 10 years and sold it with 30k miles because we had a kid on the way and needed something like an SUV. We never had a single issue with that car. But now am reconsidering.
Can someone please advise at what mileage is the earliest that these engine troubles start to come on?
Thanks.
73tr6
Miami FL
I'm not sure what the earliest mileage point is but I can tell you that we had our first troubles with overheating at about 20k. At that time, the LR service center in IL did not mention needing to replace the engine. We had trouble thereafter with the transmission (they replaced it) and with goofy things like the rear hatch latch. We also have had brake work done about every 10k - 15k miles. I chalked that up to pulling a motorcycle trailer between IL and FL a few times but now I think it's just because LRs are made with poor quality parts.
The LR service guy told you to unload the car?!! Wow - there's an endorsement. You shouldn't need to hear that advice twice. Unload it fast before it becomes difficult to sell. Sooner or later the LR name is going to lose its luster over these poor quality vehicles and the failure of the corporation to respond effectively.
If you are going to keep it get an extended warranty you have up to one month or 1,000 miles before the factory warranty expires. If you want to dump it do it now and take it to carmax. They seem to be completely clueless to how troublesome Freelanders are as they keep buying them up left and right.
By the way, he also was trying to get me into a new LR2 lease, but no more LR for me.
Thanks again.
Art
I just wanted to encourage you with making a decision with your Freelander. I have a 2002 and the first problem I had was with BOTH rear window motors failing. Then the sunroof. THEN THE ENGINE! Extend your warranty NOW if you are going to keep it. Otherwise, I recommend getting rid of it quickly.
Best Wishes,
Melissa
My email is landrover_lawsuit@hotmail.com in case you want to join or speak off forum. Thanks, Bridget
I just had my 2002 engine replaced under a deal negotiated with Land Rover corporate. Guess what - the NEW ENGINE IS LEAKING OIL LIKE SIEVE!!! It's back in the shop. This is a recurring nightmare.