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Nissan Altima



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Headlights are going vertical instead of horizontal. Look at the GT-R concept Nissan showed at Tokyo. Pretty soon the headlights will hit the windshield!

  • stebustebu Posts: 204
    "Pretty soon the headlights will hit the windshield!" - hehehe... when you think about it, headlights have pretty much run the guantlet over the years. They've been single, double, even triple, side-by-side and every which angle, square, rectangular, round, oval, trapizoidal, cat eyed, hidden altogether, melting together (aka Mercedes). It seems that right now the enlongated triangle is the in thing. They also seem to be getting bigger then ever, in general, with multiple lenses. I guess next comes the insect eyes phase with about 1000 lenses per side. And then there's the fog lights....
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I prefer ovals, like the E class, Mini Cooper, Jaguars, Imprezas, etc.

    The absolute coolest lights are the gatlin guns on the Q, though. The rest of the car almost doesn't matter.

  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    Here here! For some reason I've alway had an afinity for the old BMW headlights and grills ala M6 etc.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    The lights in the BMW 5-series are pretty nice as well. I really like how there's a lighted ring around the high beam light when only the low beams are on.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hmmm, kinda looks cheesy to me. But I could still deal with the overall package! :-)

  • How come its ok for a 50000-dollar GS 3000 to have luggage squashing hinges in the trunk??? Don't get me wrong I am in no way comparing the Altima to the Lexus, I just thought that it was pretty funny that you don't hear any complaints about the Lexus trunk hinges!!

    By now we all know that the Altima's biggest interior problem is the door panels. Did you ever see so many seams in your life? A 16000-dollar civic has better door panels! The dash is not that bad as it is padded where it’s supposed to be but the doors flat out suck!

    Long live my Y2K Max!!
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    well here it goes - GS300's trunk hinges suck too.
  • 92drexel92drexel Posts: 153
    Anyone see the December issue of Car and Driver? They test drove the upcoming Nissan 350Z, apparently Nissan is using a front and rear multilink suspension set-up for the Z.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    But the Z seats only 2. I want to see the G35.

  • lsclsc Posts: 210
    the altima's trunk is really big enough where the hinges don't really get in the way. Besides my bro's G20, I've never seen a car w/o the trunk hinges so I don't see the big deal. maybe you guys are looking for a car at a class lower than what you want.

    My old J30t also had the trunk hinges.

    Just a quick note, anyone notice how light the trunk is? on the old Maximas, when you open the trunk w/ the remote, it only opened a little bit. Now on the Altima, it fully opens. Just an observation.
  • I just bought a 2002 Altima SE after reading many posts criticizing the interior. While I realize the interior may not be up to Lexus standards, it is more than adequate for me.

    The car has lived up to everything I expected. The performance is excellent, and the car is easy to drive.

    Before buying the Altima, I test drove an Acura TL, which was my first choice. Unfortunately, it was a bit out of my price-range. Obviously, the interior of the TL is superior to the Altima, but I am still satisfied with my purchase.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Since the trunk lid is made of aluminum, that makes sense.

    Passat has cool articulating hinges instead of the goosenecks, but I think it's one of the few non-luxury cars that does.

  • Speaking of headlights. A few years back in a Detroit Auto Show, GM had a concept car that
    had headlights like insect eyes (many small bright "LED" like light sources). According to the gentleman who introduced the car, the headlights actually came from a single light source and
    fiber optics are used to distribute the light to many small lenses. That's why it is a CONCEPT car. This lighting system will probably cost few thousand to make. And guess how you feel when someone backs up in a parking lot and hit you headlights.
  • The Edmunds road test for the manual made it to 60 in 6.3 secs. I am wondering if anyone had numbers for auto.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    Car and Driver this month tested the auto Altima V6 at 7.3 sec 0-60.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    HIDs are expensive, but some are willing to pay for them. It's nice to have them as an option.

    Motorweek's 5.9s time is the benchmark, but that too was a manual.

  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    Both the 2002 Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima come with the multi-link hinges, but the XG350 comes with the space-intruding hinges.
  • brad45brad45 Posts: 27
    My trunk doesn't pop up all the way when I use the remote release. It opens about 1/2 inch. When I touch it just the slightest bit though it opens on its own.

    Have any other Altima owners figured out how to read the gas gauge? I love the fact that I can to 2-3 weeks without filling up due to the 20 gal. tank, but the gauge baffles me. At 1/2 full I have about 15 gal left. At empty I still have 5 in the tank. Anyone else noticed this or do I have a warranty repair coming.

    All else is good - the shifter gets smoother every day. No wonder everyone who goes to Japanese cars never goes back, even when something seems off the cars apparently fix themselves.
  • The Auto 0 to 60 time is hardly jaw dropping like the stick shift's clocked time.

    An Accord automatic hits 60 in 7.7 seconds... I don't know if those .4 seconds are really going to be noticed unless you're a stoplight drag racer. The Pontiac Grand Prix does a much better 0 to 60 with a slush box (6.5 seconds).
  • lsclsc Posts: 210
    It's quite surprising for me too as well. I'm surprised that it's that slow. Especially, since my car feels way faster than the Acura TL (my bro's). It doesn't feel like it's an over 7 sec 0-60 car. I still blow other cars away though. The Grand Prix GTP has 280 ft/lbs of torque, which is a lot more than my 3.5 SE. Gotta hand it to the GM boys on that one. The GTP and the Buick Regal supercharged are fast.

    The fuel gauge is exactly the same for me. I tested it just to see how much there is in reserve. It's exactly like yours. No worries.

    I was getting 25-26 mpg on my first couple of fill ups but now I'm getting around 23 mpg. A little more city driving and now that the car is broken in, my uncontrollable right foot is causing it be lower. Not too bad right now though since gas is $1.32 for premium.
  • I agree with Isc, the trunk is so big that the hinges don't matter. Something I found weird is that my Intrigue doesn't have the hinges, it has the gas struts or whatever you call them, but my Cutlass has the hinges. When i use the remote on the Intrigue, the trunk comes open about an inch and when i give it a light pull, it opens all the way up, but on the cutlass it opens half-way with the button. They are both '99 GLS models, but suprisingly the Cutlass is about 3 inches shorter in every exterior dimension category, but has the most front and rear head room and the most rear leg room, being 0.1in less in front leg room, but still holds more luggage than the Intrigue. My point from all that is that the hinges usually don't have a large impact on the amount of stuff you can fit into the trunk.
  • I was also looking forward to sitting in the new Altima since I love the looks and HP. I thought of the Altima as the "Passat Killer". After sitting in a 3.5SE, I was quite disappointed with the interior fit/finish. The HVAC controls were definitely VERY cheap. The knobs felt cheap and were difficult to move. The Hyundai Elantra GT had better materials. The back seat was not that roomy either, especially the headroom.

    I also sat in the Camry and pretty much thought it was as milque-toast as ever.

    Overall, I love the looks, the horsepower, rear suspension and the price. Don't like the interior bits. It's no Passat killer except in horsepower. I'd take a pass since I'd have to live on the inside. The bland Accord has nothing to worry about when it comes to sales. Styling is great on the Altima, but the details count when you want to own something for the long run. I'm sure Nissan will sell a boat load of them, they deserve to. It's a nice improvement. But it's not a category killer like I've been lead to believe.

    Guess C & D agrees, the Altima placed 3rd with the Accord first in a 8 car V-6 sedan comparo in the Dec 01 issue.
  • The dealer has offered a 2.5 S manual without the convenience package with mudguards, mats, spoiler and aftermarket moonroof (did not want to pay 1600 for the convenience package to get the moonroof) for $19,600 and they are paying off my trade 2000 VW cabrio GL conv w/20,000 miles for $15,600. Any comments??
  • It is impossible to say without knowing the payoff for your trade or what condition it is in.
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    the over hyped, over rated Altima finished third. I'm looking forward to all the whining I'm sure to read following this post about how bias C & D is towards Honda. I'm still trying to figure out why Nissan designed this car with such a CHEAP interior. Bring on the 2003 Accord for next summer!!!
  • oac3oac3 Posts: 373
    C'mon C&D must be out of their mind, right ? I mean, how could they rank the sporty, newly designed and very fast Alty SE (0-60 of 5.9 secs) in third place behind..... ehm..... Honda and Camry !! Could it be ??? Nah.....

    venus537: bring on the '03 Accord, you say ? careful what you ask for, you may get it and then some... hehehe... Will the Alty come to play when the Accord '03 comes into town ? We'll we'll see won't we ?

    But, guess what, who needs an '03 Accord anyways ? The '02 V6 version is good enough in its class to beat its arch rival - not the Altima, puleezee, the CAMRY, isn't it ? So what will the '03 accomplish ? Your guess is as good as mine.... For the first time, I am rooting for Honda (I've never owned a Honda in my life), but I still love my Maxima, only that I am just interested in something different, not neccessarily better, just different for me !
  • Honda should just put a stick shift in the Accord so they can get those great 0 to 60 times from the car magazines. That's what Nissan did with the Altima.
  • lsclsc Posts: 210
    So what that C&D ranked the Accord first and the Altima third? Drive the cars yourself.

    I used to take C&D's reviews like it was the bible, but back in 1996, one drive of the Honda Accord, Toyota Camry and Nissan Maxima made me realize that the Maxima was the best car out of the three. My bro was shopping at the time and he bought the Max. C&D in 1995 gave the Nissan Maxima import car of the year honors then ranked it second in a comparo to the Camry SE back that made much sense.

    Just like in 1996, one drive of the 2002 Altima, Accord and Camry as well as the 2001 Maxima and I knew that the Altima was the best car to spend my $24000. The 2001 Maxima was a very very close second. The newer stuff (difference that you already know) made me go with the Altima.

    Should I go trade my car in for the 2002 Accord that I could have bought for $23000 w/ a rear spoiler because of C&D's review? Of course not, I already know that the Altima is better.

    Most importantly, at least for doesn't really matter which car is better at this point. It only mattered when I was shopping for a new car and it'll only matter when I shop again probably 3-4 years down the road.

    Who know what'll be out at that point, until then I'll be crusing in my silver 2002 Altima 3.5 SE.
  • Isc is right: drive the cars yourself. A comparison test by an enthusiast's magazine is entertaining if you are in the bathroom for a few minutes and have nothing better to read. These tests provide virtually no solid information.

    Much depends on variables such as different options, how well each car is tuned and how well the tires on each car suit it in this setting. And the scoring always comes down to subjectively chosen factors that then include subjective judgments about styling and other things. You don't have to be a cynic to recognize that these tests are no true measure of a car's worthiness.

    What counts is how well a car suits you.
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