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Their reply was simply thank you for the offer but no....they didn't counter. I didn't respond and have been looking elsewhere since then but haven't been able to find a '08 I like....there aren't many '08's left in the Southeast. I checked today and the Sequoia is still available. I thought I would stop by the dealership this week and try to negotiate in person.
Any advice on a fair final price is greatly appreciated.
The first rule of negotiating: don't negotiate against yourself. If you offer 39K they will simply say no, make another offer until you reach 40529.
The dealer's floor space interest cost is drying up the value and eventually they'll want to unload. You might consider a higher offer but with something else included this way you're not negotiating with yourself. Maybe offer $39,000 but include a 5yr/100K extended warranty at no charge. Maybe toss into the deal your first 5 oil changes from the dealer at no charge. See if that approach breaks the dealer down to make an offer to unload the vehicle. then its back in your hands to decide if you want to accept their offer.
Now, I have also read within this thread that $9,000 - $9,500 off of MSRP is the going rate, but even on an 08 (although brand new) that has been on the dealer's lot since March of 2008, that will be a 2 year old vehicle in about a month when the 2010's arrive.
By the way, I have also heard that the number of 08's remaining on a dealer's lot will negatively impact that dealer's ability to secure 2010 models. Is that correct?
Anyway 9 to 9.5K seems to be right.
If I could get the 08 down to 18-20% off, I would make a move. What do you think?
Also thinking about the 07 - got a good deal on one w/15K miles for $35K. How different are the 07 to 08? Body design yes but what about the ride?
Thanks all
2008 Sequoia Limited, Super White
Navigation, Back-up Camera, Winter Mats
MSRP $53,902.00 Started negotiating car at $41,188.00
Trading in a 2004 Sienna with 97,000m and quite dinged up. Fair KBB Pricing for Siena is $8675.00 at best.
Final deal in Boston Market:
$34,000 with trade-in If they gave me 100% of the fair KBB Value, then the car cost me $42,675.00 or about $11,000 off MSRP.
Good deal?
As for the price on the 08, the 18-22% range would be where i shoot. It depends on the features on what the % turns out to be. The more features, the bigger % off. It gives them more dollars to deal with. Good luck on the decision.
Just joined to ask for advice / tips on purchasing a 2008 Limited Sequoia. I've been wanting this vehicle since they came out but only now do I think having one may be a possiblity because of the drop in pricing with the dealerships wanting to move these vehicles.
I would like a Limited with the factory installed navigation system.
I would also like the DVD entertainment system but I also found out that you can have an after-market DVD system installed in the seats. Does anyone have that? What's your opinion?
My sister has the factory installed DVD entertainment system and loves it but says that the screen does impede her view out the rearview mirror.
I live in Ft Worth TX and am having a hard time finding one. I'm from Californa so I've begun my search there too. There doesn't seem to be a lot of Limited's with factory installed DVD systems out there. I'm told one can be installed for $2K but I doubt it's integrated like the factory installed unit.
Does anyone know of some dealerships that I can contact that have some Limited's with the options I desire? I'm willing to have it transported if the deal is good.
Also what is the going rate for auto loans? We have great credit over 800.
Thanks for any and all help.
Paula
I find the nav system to be pretty mediocre. Since it is the only one ever had, I can't compare it to others but for the price I am sure you could get better. The large touch screen is nice. I live in the Boston suburbs. I find a lot of the directions to be not the fastest way to get to places. It is very tedious and nonintuitive to save routes and locations. I tried learning to use the voice commands but they are really so complicated it is not useful.
Built in bluetooth for cell phones is good to have.
The rear DVD system does obstruct the view through the rear view mirror. Not fully but noticeable. Other than it is excellent. Very well integrated to the stereo. Two wireless headphones for the kids allows them to watch and hear the DVD while you play CDs or whatever through the car audio. Very nice. However, you can get headrest systems with wireless and individual DVD players for each side for less than the Toyota system. A good installer can probably integrate to the car stereo as well.
Crutchfield has some good headrest systems and good explanations.
Hope that helps.
I am attempting to buy a 2008 Sequoia Limited this weekend either in Missouri or Oklahoma. The dealerships in Oklahoma only have RWD. I was wondering if the RWD drive is alright in the snow?
Most importantly I need guidance on what everyone thinks is a really good deal for the 2008 Limited 4WD & the RWD?
Also, there is a $3,000 rebate for the 2008 Sequoia and the dealerships seem motivated to move these vehicles. I have looked on truecar.com and other sights but I am still confused, do you make an offer assuming the rebate (customer cash) is in your office price or the rebate is an additional bonus not in the offer price. I plan to throw out an offer price and say call me if you can meet this price. I don't want to haggle and I don't have to have the SUV.
Please let me know what everyone thinks would be a good offer price for the 2008 Sequoia 4WD & RWD...
Thanks in advance
In previous discussions in this forum I have seen posts talking about taking 20% of the price of the SUV.....is this 20% off the price with the included options or suggested retail or 20% off the SUV without the options.
The 20% is probably a best case scenario for a 2008 model. Those are getting scarcer but now that 2010s are out, you can probably still get about 20% off MSRP (or close to that) on a 2008. Dealers need to move those in order to get 2010s from the factory. I doubt anybody will get close to 20% off of a 2010 model.
Not many vehicle out there with those options will probably have to go after market.
Paula
Or I can go with a 2010 SR5 and have the DVD entertainment system installed and the prices are approx. $43,000 with a sale price of approx. $38,000.
Any thoughts/comments?
Thank you!
What is price of a used 2010 Sequoia SR5?
Does the SR5 have leather? Bluetooth?
For your reference, I purchased a 2008 SR5 fully loaded (except nav and DVD) for $34,300 brand new ( MSRR: 43,700). It all depends on value for the money - if the SR5 has everything the limited does, and you can get it for 4k less - great. Or you can wait till they give you 10k off the 2010.
What state are you in?
Thank you.
$5700 Additional discount
State: California
Thanks a lot
Looking to get rid of my 2003 H2 Hummer with 60,000 for a Toyota Sequoia. What should be looking to pay around for a new Sequoia? Looking for either a limited or platinum truck. How much should I be getting off the truck, etc? Looking to make a purchase by the end of the week.
Good Luck to all.
I love my 2010, but am really thankful for the Sonar and backup camera in my world of tight parking spaces and small children.
Nissan/Infiniti had the same problem the first year the Titan came out. The solution for them was to replace the brake pads three times before they would upgrade the rotors. I will pay a little more for a Sequoia but in the long run be ahead just because Toyota stands behind their product better than the competition.
The internet had an article stating that Toyota will be launching a billion dollar (their biggest ever) discount and incentive program to boost sales during the fourth quarter. I'm hoping that generates something for the '10 Sequoia.
Anyway, back in posts starting in the 1550s, I think I mentioned the discounts I was seeing on '08 Platinums this past summer. For example, one dealer in May with a vehicle MSRP of $58,155, started negotiations with an internet price of $49,955. I offered $43,616, but then when I realized he probably would only knock 1 or 2K more off, I decided to wait for the '10s.
Been a long wait . . . in the meantime, had the opportunity to learn about other vehicles a bit.
Although I know I can pick up a '10 for about $3K off these days, I am still giving it a couple months minimum. if I can make an extra 1K a month (in form of a discounted price) simply by waiting 2 months, then that $2K covers a lot of maintenance over the years ahead on it.
It's not like we can't afford the thing, but rather it is my Scottish roots that got me where I am today, debt-free and able to pay cash for the truck. Waiting also forces me to constantly assess my opportunity costs. I totally agree with the poster above about the positives on the Sequoia over the Infiniti (especially appearance), but waiting this long has already potentially benefited me by forcing me to discover those other opportunities.
I should say that I was very surprised to see the deals on the Infiniti, and that is why I have been focusing on it. I know many have lost faith in Mr. Stock Market, but if I can save even $8K between the two vehicles, then that little voice in me tells me to pay attention. $8K at 10% return over 10 years is about $20K towards my next vehicle.
When the new '03 4Runner came out at end of '02 and was selling at MSRP (38K) with no deals, then I forced myself to look at the '03 Pathfinder. Long story short, I picked up the loaded LE Pathfinder for $30K at the end of 2002, and then I invested the $8K. We actually turned that $8K into over $31K and then remodeled part of our house in '07 with it.
YES, I always would have loved to have that 4Runner, but that desire was easily more emotional than anything, as the Pathfinder has done everything I needed (I was really surprised by that), and now my wife actually drives it with small kids beating it up. So, in the end, the savings and subsequent investment was a good lesson learned and it's what is driving this now.
There is no guarantee that I could turn 8K savings into 20 or 30K again, but at least I have the shot at it. Buying the Sequoia straight out, without at least considering other choices, means I have no possibility of ending up with 20 or 30K in 10 years. Anyway, I know this is not a personal finance board, but just wanted to give some food for thought. Most of my friends never put so much time/thought into this stuff, but then again, I am the "statistical outlier" of the group.
I will post what sort of prices I am seeing in mid-atlantic come November. I am willing to pay a premium for the Sequoia given a lot of things it has over the Infiniti, but right now the spread is too great. Fingers crossed that that will soon change.
Good luck to all.
Tried several dealers but couldn't get any to beat or match. Actually, they insisted that something would be added, dealer fee etc. No such thing. Only TTT. Communictaed entirely by email until the deal was done. Not too difficult. Deals will likely get better but they aren't going to give the cars away.
For those not paying cash, Bank of America is offering fantastic rates on auto loans. I secured 4.2% APR for 60 months. At this rate, depending on your situation, it may or may not make sense paying cash.
A 4x4 platinium model list for 59,855 and you can get 3,932 off msrp mid- atlantic region and 5,136 southeast region. The draw back to the south east region is you can only get a flex fuel engine on the 4x4 models. I see no advantage in a flex fuel engine. The mileage is at least 20% worse and perhaps 30% worse, the fuel is hard to find. The fuel delivery system is made more complicated on the 5.7 liter engine to use a fuel that is scarce at best. E 85 causes a water problem in the fuel line and gas tank, is tough on metal, and costs more to produce than gasoline. The government pays oil companies about 51 cents a gallon to make the crap so it sells about 24 cents less than a gallon of gasoline. The draw back is you have to use more of it to go the same distance as gasoline so it ends up costing a lot more.
As it was explained to me, the flex-fuel engine is being made for political reasons so that they can continue to manufacture the Prius, etc. without any grief (or at least not as much).
Rest assured that the dealers are more than aware of the drawbacks you mentioned above. In fact, I understand that I really should avoid ethanol if possible as it burns "dirty" and really isn't ideal for any engine. Therefore, the reduced fuel economy is really irrelevant.
You are accurate about the Southeast and the flex-fuel option on the 4X4's.....
The cost of this vehcile is high and as a customer paying the bill put the engine I want in the vehicle. I always thought Toyota was being forced into this by the government. I like the Toyota product and have bought a 4x4 Sequoia outside the southeast region just to get the engine I want.
SEQUOIA 1,150 2,030 -45.6 11,752 24,592 -52.0
September 2009 sales = 1,150, versus 2,030 in September 2008, for a decline of 45.6%; calendar year to date sales = 11,752, versus 24,592 in 2008 period, for a decline of 52%.
Once you get format, then you can compare to other cars and SUVs.
* * * * *
TOYOTA RETAIL SALES
(INCLUDES FLEET & HAWAII)
September, 2009
-----CURRENT MONTH----- --CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE--
DSR % DSR %
2009 2008 CHG 2009 2008 CHG
---- ---- --- ---- ---- ---
YARIS 1,907 5,721 -68.0 50,785 88,495 -42.4
COROLLA 20,741 21,316 -6.6 215,038 279,685 -22.8
CAMRY 25,745 29,486 -16.2 264,357 355,562 -25.3
VENZA 4,738 0 N/A 39,416 0 N/A
AVALON 1,939 3,404 -45.3 19,878 34,309 -41.8
PRIUS 10,984 10,873 -3.0 104,794 130,561 -19.4
SCION xA 0 0 N/A 3 39 -92.3
SCION xB 1,539 3,038 -51.4 20,531 38,671 -46.7
SCION tC 1,232 2,679 -55.9 15,028 35,680 -57.7
SCION xD 912 2,395 -63.4 11,686 23,369 -49.8
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV.
PASS. CAR 69,737 78,912 -15.2 741,518 986,372 -24.5
----------------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
ES 3,046 4,042 -27.7 33,431 50,642 -33.7
HS 1,242 0 N/A 1,785 0 N/A
LS 777 1,238 -39.7 7,388 16,030 -53.7
SC 19 129 -85.9 595 1,689 -64.6
GS 501 977 -50.8 5,277 13,019 -59.3
IS 3,346 3,044 5.5 27,911 40,372 -30.6
TOTAL LEXUS PASS. CAR 8,931 9,430 -9.1 76,387 121,752 -37.0
--------------------- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------- -----
TOTAL TOYOTA PASS. CAR 78,668 88,342 -14.5 817,905 1,108,124 -25.9
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SIENNA 6,442 9,647 -35.9 59,772 94,887 -36.7
RAV4 10,398 10,305 -3.1 106,863 106,738 0.6
FJ CRUISER 413 1,571 -74.8 8,381 21,696 -61.2
4RUNNER 666 2,963 -78.4 13,127 37,306 -64.7
HIGHLANDER 5,216 5,729 -12.6 61,484 81,951 -24.6
LAND CRUISER 233 186 20.3 1,747 3,203 -45.2
SEQUOIA 1,150 2,030 -45.6 11,752 24,592 -52.0
TOTAL SUV 18,076 22,784 -23.8 203,354 275,486 -25.9
--------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
4X2 TACOMA 3,567 4,904 -30.2 42,739 65,773 -34.7
4X4 TACOMA 3,946 4,272 -11.3 43,034 51,542 -16.1
TOTAL TACOMA 7,513 9,176 -21.4 85,773 117,315 -26.6
TUNDRA 6,308 7,696 -21.3 56,599 115,026 -50.6
TOTAL PICKUP 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,341 -38.5
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. LT
TRUCK 38,339 49,303 -25.3 405,498 602,714 -32.4
LX 307 647 -54.4 2,513 6,416 -60.7
GX 473 1,329 -65.8 5,183 12,832 -59.4
RX 8,228 4,639 70.3 65,325 63,219 3.8
TOTAL LEXUS LIGHT
TRUCK 9,008 6,615 30.7 73,021 82,467 -11.1
----------------- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ -----
TOTAL TOYOTA LIGHT
TRUCK 47,347 55,918 -18.7 478,519 685,181 -29.9
------------------ ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. 108,076 128,215 -19.1 1,147,016 1,589,086 -27.5
TOTAL LEXUS 17,939 16,045 7.3 149,408 204,219 -26.5
----------- ------ ------ --- ------- ------- -----
TOTAL TOYOTA 126,015 144,260 -16.1 1,296,424 1,793,305 -27.4
MEMO:
DOM. COROLLA 20,430 16,492 18.9 184,407 198,790 -6.8
DOM. CAMRY 25,384 29,119 -16.3 255,239 349,000 -26.5
DOM. RAV4 4,656 0 N/A 31,155 0 N/A
DOM. PICKUP 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,339 -38.5
DOM. RX 5,631 3,685 46.7 43,612 46,033 -4.8
SELLING DAYS 25 24 229 230
------------ -- -- --- ---
TOYOTA DIV. IMPORT CAR 17,246 29,897 -44.6 242,578 404,273 -39.7
LEXUS IMPORT CAR 8,931 9,430 -9.1 76,387 121,752 -37.0
TOYOTA DIV NA BUILT
CARS 52,491 49,015 2.8 498,940 582,099 -13.9
TOTAL TOYOTA CARS 78,668 88,342 -14.5 817,905 1,108,124 -25.9
TOYOTA DIV. IMPORT LT
TRUCK 12,270 20,754 -43.2 160,447 250,894 -35.8
LEXUS IMPORT LT TRUCK 3,377 2,930 10.6 29,409 36,434 -18.9
TOYOTA DIV NA BUILT
LT TRUCK 26,069 28,549 -12.3 245,051 351,820 -30.0
LEXUS NA BUILT LT
TRUCK 5,631 3,685 46.7 43,612 46,033 -4.8
TOTAL TOYOTA LT TRUCK 47,347 55,918 -18.7 478,519 685,181 -29.9
--------------------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES 26,671 27,828 -8.0 267,994 336,257 -20.0
Memo: Lexus Sport
Utility 9,008 6,615 30.7 73,021 82,467 -11.1
SMALL VANS 6,442 9,647 -35.9 59,772 94,887 -36.7
PICKUPS 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,341 -38.5
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* NORTH AMERICAN BUILT
VEHICLES
COROLLA 20,430 16,492 18.9 184,407 198,790 -6.8
CAMRY 25,384 29,119 -16.3 255,239 349,000 -26.5
VENZA 4,738 0 N/A 39,416 0 N/A
AVALON 1,939 3,404 -45.3 19,878 34,309 -41.8
SIENNA