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'05 have increased in price, I think like 2-3%. Also, they have made some of the options as standards.
When you ask about ordering a V6 with some basic options (e.g., moon roof, heated seats and xenons) the sales guy's eyeballs roll and you hear strange things about 90 day order cycles, "I'm a slave to Porche's system", "we've never special ordered a V6", etc.
Then the game starts: "well, I've got a V6 over there with NAV, variable steering, titanium package, 19" wheels, and "memory" seats (this is real important on a Porche that in all probability will have one driver out to 100K!) would you be interested in it if we..."
Simply sensibly bundling these options would go a long way to making the process a lot easier and Porche would sell more cars.
Please help.
I recently got a Acura TL, which has all standard, except for trans and navigation.
No long list....
Hope Porsche is listening to this...
About one-quarter of the time, when I am in manual shift, the gear refuses to shift down from 3rd to 2nd. I have to use the tiptronic on the steering wheel to make it shift down.
Frustrating and dangerous as I use the downshifting to slow the car before corners. I have to drive a winding road all the time, so this is an issue.
Thanks for any suggestions for the dealer
Susan
I have not tried to keep the shifter in manual mode, then try to down shift from 3 to 2nd....
maybe I will try it and get back to you...
but remember the gearing of the Cayenne is for very high speeds, and it has plenty of power.
2nd gear is usually enough to start the car from full stop....and that is where the auto shifter begins. the first gear is for heavy pulling/hauling , or offroading. So the 3rd gear works like a 2nd gear of a regular car. If you are trying to slow into corners, shifting from 3rd to 2nd in a Cayenne would be tantamount to shifting from 2nd into 1st in a regular vehicle, something that is not advised. Starting gears are only for giving the initial push, not for slowing the car....IMO.
but like I said, I will try it to see how the car reacts....
We drove on the freeway, where I was in automatic at 5th gear. I then pulled the lever over to the left (technical talk) and shifted down to 4th, 3rd, etc. It took three or four tries before it would downshift to any next lower gear.
They are replacing the whole shifting mechanism. It seems to be mechanical, not electrical.
When you say that shifting down to slow the vehicle is not a good idea, I understand what you are saying about the effect on the car. Unfortunately, I have to negotiate a steep downhill road with many sharp curves and if I don't use my gears, I would constantly be braking. You can smell other cars' brakes when they arrive at Stinson Beach.
I am open to suggestions and thanks,
Susan
I think you are correct in downshifting to slow the vehicle on steep hills....
I'm just not sure you need to downshift all the way to 2nd, since that may be too low....but I may be wrong. I am glad the dealer found the problem, and will fix it.....
I'm bringing mine in for regular service and to check the tires...then I'll head out to Muir Woods and Stinson Beach..... I love the area...you are lucky....
I'm in the Eastbay. I'll wave when I see you
When you come over to SB, give Panoramic a try on your way back instead of Highway 1. I would love to know how you handle the downhill part. All tips are welcome.
Steve, Host
Please help.
Got delivery of Cayenne Turbo 2005 on Saturday. This SUV is incredible. Take it from me my husband "forced me" to drive it so I can get use to it, I do not think I ever drove anything that nice ever it does put my ML 320 to shame. Now: We have 19" tires on it that we will have the dealer change for 18" all season Continental tire, since I am the one taking care of the cars it seems better that way since I will not have to go with 4 tires to have it change for the winter. Tell me I am not making a mistake, suggestion appreciated. Also we tried to link the integrated garage door opener to our garage door and we cannot get it going. Anybody experiencing that problem? any tips?
Thank you,
I am not surprised that it put your ML 320 to shame. Once I drove Cay S, I got out of ML in a heart beat. Cay Turbo is a, I am sure, vehicle from another planet altogether though outside my reach.
Regarding your question on 18" vs. 19", I have a preference for the 18" since it comes with all season rubber. Those in sunny California weather may have preference for the 19" and once I drove (loaner) with 19", I felt that 18" were more to my liking.
Drive both and see what you prefer.,
welcome , Viggie !!!
Hope your Cay is doing ffine....
I got the 18 in wheels with all season continentals on my cay. the ride was great . Just the right balance of comfort and performance.
I recently also bought a set of ANtera 20" wheels with Falken tires (also Mud and snow rated), but the comfort level went down, performance went up a bit, but probably not enough to justify putting on the 20 in wheels,
IMO. It could also be the wrong type of wheel, since maybe Porsche original equipment tires and wheels may feel better....
Well, it also depends on if you are interested more in performance or comfort....
On the issue of comfort, I have taken the Cayenne up to Redding,CA, which is about 4 hours, and was fine.
Down to Los Angeles is about 6.5 hours, and have been in the seat for about 3 hours continuously, before one of us needed the rest rooms.
Up to Lake Tahoe, in Winter, there were no problems at all....just plain fun and no problems in terms of traction, need for snow chains, stability, etc.... :-)
good luck , if you are still considering one...
Then again, Costly doesn't mean reliable. (USA Today)
Steve, Host
Mom & Dad
Thanks for the low down on your personal experiences with your Cayenne S. We're sorry to hear that you have had such a bad run with your vehicle and we agree with you that at this point it doesn't much matter how rare the problems are with that particular vehicle 'cause the shine is off the penny so to speak. Hope you can resolve the issues once and for all and finally enjoy your toy for all the reasons that you bought it in the first place!
Was the condensation issue a big deal and how did they fix it?
Also, does anyone know if the regular headlinghts can be replaced with the Xenons?
thx.
headlights can be replaced with Xenons, I saw on the Porsche Excellence magazine that many dealers offer discounts on phone orders,,,,and include the xenon up[grade at discounted prices...so it may be better than your local dealer price.
Unfortunately, many of the design problems seem to stem from the Volkswagon end of the manufacturing process, IMO..... So they may have to beef it up....and hope Porsche can let them know...
:-)
Oh and gas mileage, I dont know if they did anything about the engine/transmission programming, but I am getting close to between 17 & 18 MPG on the highway right off the dealer showroom. Naturally I am not driving it hard yet and I do notice if you get into it a little the MPG drops quickly, but thats why you bought it, not for good MPG's but for seat of the pants fun, right! Otherwise you dont need the V8.
I have to say this is one sweet performance SUV. I have had many cars and SUV's including the LEXUS 470, and the Cayenne is way beyond anything I have ever owned.
Truely incredible, quality you can see and feel, the execution is flawless. I recommend the smooth leather interior option and I believv it looks a lot more luxurious than the embossed standard leather. Thats just me though, the look and feel in the cockpit is a big deal to me.
I considered the Turbo, but I did not want the maintence issues that go with turbos, and I felt the 340 HP performance was enough to satisify my desire to wear out tires prematurely. Tires are a big deal on this car, high performance tires are expensive to replace and are designed to pefrorm and by virtue of that design criteria they can't wear as long as the standard tire on the everyday Ford or Chevy. Silica tread compounds are used in many new high performance tires and while they enhance handling, these compounds wear out fastrer. The 19" Pirelli PZero Rosso tires cost around $ 1100 a set from the tire rack once you get them installed.
I know I am rambling, but do your homework before you order one, and if you really want a Porsche, dont buy a Lexus or Infinity, in my book there is really no comparison. The Cayenne is KING in my book.
hope you have lots of fun....and let me know how you like the sport exhaust..I am thinking about changing mine too...
seems like they upgraded the navigation unit...I think that it is great they did. I still have the CD based one,so it is a pain to have to pop it in once in a while....
I also got the titanium grey color, and like it alot. But my two kid/sons both just saw the Cayenne video...( they sent this out in 2003 , before they released the car) , and in it they had the black cayenne, so both seemed to prefer the black.
they were both amazed that the car could ford small streams....and I let them know that the car doors have special seals that prevent water from entering....but also that one should not ford a stream of unknown depth.
Anyways, they liked the duality of the cayenne...
I would say it is three faced:
1- true offroader...you can go 4 wheeling, in snow and mud and have the utility of a truck.
2- true sports car...you can go with the best of cars, even sports cars, on the roadways
3- luxury car...you can drive it up to a hotel or opera, and the valet will smile....
:-)
Also I sure do agree with you about the multi faceted character of the vehicle. Indeed it does all those things very well.
I did depart a bit from the norm on color, I like red and so I got the red metalic with havana/sand beige interior.
Also in response to your question on the sport exhaust, I can't say for sure, but I believe it does change the exhaust note more like the standard turbo four flute sound.I bought the option more for the look though, pictures dont do them justice.
I got the winter wheels and tires on mine now with the Dunlop Grantreck WT M2 and they really add to an agressive look. I read a lot of reviews on the tire rack about the M2 and they say these really will get you thru deep snow and they are not noisy at all.
thanks again to you highender and all for the valuable info that gets posted on here.
dennis
I will look into the Dunlop M2s also....since the 'Continentals are very good all weather, but probably do poorly in snow heavy situations....
I have a set of spare 18 " wheels that have the continentals.., but they are nearly worn...
thanks to you also, dennis....
Can you tell me your Porsche ref # (i.e 214xxxx), just out of curiosity, I want to try and figure out why mine is still on a boat ! Thanks.
I ordered on June 25th it was built on Sept 2nd, and delivered Oct 2nd.
2146288. I suspect the manual transmission is delaying yours.
we have some more cayenne lovers on board, and this has mainly been informational exchanges about price, purchase, or problems..with many kudos also....
no flamers and no challenges recently....
:-)
Has anybody installed an after market navigation system into a Cay S without nav? Does it replace the radio as well? I am thinking about the Alpine, Eclipse or Pioneer.
Thx!
bobp7
My Dunlops have been on for about 2500 miles and feel decent but are not "N" rated and certainly affect the cornering and highway speed confidence in a negative way but, they are SNOW tires.
I will probably buy these tires again next year unless something with the "N" rating appears that might work as well and handle better. As I understand it, the main difference is load rating and sidewall strength. I keep hoping Michelin or Goodyear will get some tires rated, we'll see! From my past good experiences I'd like to see some of their all season tires available for the C.
I have the Alpine in the sub...which I like better than the cayenne stock navigation. More vivid colors, better design, and available remote so you don;t have to lean forward to control it..'
still love the cayenne. I jokingly told my wife we should sell it and get some property, but she and the kids vetoed the idea. currently planning the install of some monitors and XBOX into the car.