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I hope to hear from you soon. I have some falkens on the C now....but will try to get some either Pirellis or Michelins for road tires. The snow tire I will use up the present continentals (with chains) and maybe take your advice....
thanks again..
IMO, the Cayenne V6 REALLY REALLY needs this update. It is really sluggish when it's fast ( i know that sounds wierd but it's true).
Thanks a lot.
I contacted dealer, but they said they would only replace it if I had brought the problem up to them in the first year....I said I brought the problem up to them, but all they did was rotate the tires....which does nothing to fix the problem, and exposes the rear, balanced wearing tires, to uneven wear...
bought a set of bridgestones (slightly used from another cayenne owner) whose tires also show this problem....so I am prepared to stand my ground and insist on new tires for my Cayenne....
I'll let you know what happens...and check your tires for uneven wear.....as it seems to be happening to others. I think Porsche will stand behind their product. This is so far the only problem that is getting me a little inpatient....
Steve, Host
did you go up to the snows yet ? Have a good one when you do... !!
I just bought a set of the Dunlop Grandtrek WT M2
235x60 18" and they are "N 0" rated now.
Porsche approved.
You have to get the WT M2 tire though to get the rated N 0 in an XL (extra load tire).
I really like my set, yes a little softer riding then the summer tires but should be great in the winter since they are studless winter ice and snow tire technology.
regards to all
dennis
This is common for early models. The alignment should have been done by the dealer at > 400 miles.
Many have had 2 fronts replaced free (including me)+ alignment/road force wheel balancing to correct it going forward.
Dig yr heals in. Refer them to this and my boards(rennlist)if you have a problem.
Good luck.
I will dig in. I mean I love the vehicle and all....but I think Porsche should stand by me on this one....
good to hear from ya...... :-)
I first reported the problem with my 01 C4 in May of 01 as I returned it to the factory for shipment to the US. To date Porsche has refused to address the issue even though the shops seem to be fully aware of it and the hazardous driving potential therefrom.
The Bellevue Barrier service manager and I just recently verified that the 04 996 models still have this problem.
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/5cayenne_20041117- _001.shtml
it seems like it is a pretty sturdy car....the front all caved in, but passenger compartment unaffected....
last year there was another cayenne like this , but with the whole engine bay all parted out...but the passenger compartment was intact....
I think Porsche and VW did a great job on the super high strength passenger cage... and the crumple zones....
When you mention the manual shift version, everyone justs sniffs that this isn't going to work well with a 6000 pound vehicle so "we aren't going to order any".
Who specs these out? An angry dealer CFO who doesn't want to see any MSRP for under 50K? A properly specc'ed V6 should sell rings around an X5 yet because you can't get them, Porche doesn't sell them.
I have not had any alarm problems....maybe check to make sure it is not some electrical fault, or some internal malfunction ?
good luck...
I had 2 adults, 3 kids, 3 TVs and associated electrical hardware, trunk full of luggage and gifts.....and got 20 mpg going 60 mph.
It is the local driving that kills fuel mileage ...... any car accelerating will get single digit mpg....
Use the trip computer (and while on the freeway and you are ready to go for the high mpg ), switch it to mpg screen, and press the reset button for a full 2 seconds....and the computer will calculate current mpg.
If you don't reset it, then it averages in all the low mpg that you got when you were taking the corner at speed or accelerating faster than some other sports cars.... ;-) and you will end up with a lower mpg figure.
going to the SUV mileage forum will give you some good ideas....
:-)
Happy New Year...!!
I am wondering, though, if the T-reg uses the same steel and same welding process for the shell as the Cay -- if so, then T-reg would be a great deal since its $10,000 less and would be just as safe.
Have searched for a bra to protect the CS here in the northeast. Tons of abraisives on the road everytime we get a flake of snow. Any brand suggestions that fit well.
I love the CS. Just the whole feel is terrific even with the various little issues.
Steve, Host
yes, there was one ot two who complained that the seats were a little too narrow, that it felt contricting....
no one complained about Cayenne not being able to accomodate taller people.
I personally think the seats are OK....but could be better..
the best seats , IMO, are the ones in the top of line volvo sedans....just cushy but supportive...
It might be easy if there is a clear winner -- ie, best side and best front and best roll-over protection.
For me (a rather selfish perspective) and using the Friedrich Nietzsche dictum (ie, "What does not destroy me, makes me stronger."): probability of death in the driver's seat if hit by a tractor trailor going 70 mph in a T-bone.
both have super strong steel cage and strong outer chasis.
I don;;t think consumer reports does testing on Porsche much.....
they go for the economy of items....so if they declared the X5 the winner, they may have left out other contenders, as they frequently do on dishwashers, fridges, etc....
I do not think they will test caviar nor mink coats. ;-)
what happened to allen ? :-)
I agree, Cayenne is not a sedan...it is more than that....it is a vehicle that can go off road, then to the race track and go 150 mph plus safely, then take you to the opera or Ritz in style.....
that said, I think Porsche let VW do a little too much work....and VW is about economy , thus the less than luxurious seating....
I like the volvo S60 R seats the best....just pure glove like cushion, but with side supports that gently hold you....pure heaven compared to BMW, mercedes, porsche, caddy, etc....
try it at your local dealer if you get the chance.
If I were Porsche, I would take apart a S60R seat, re-engineer it, and put it in all cayennes....comfort with lateral support....and it would be in tune with what cayenne is all about.
but I think Cayenne has the same number of air bags....
and cayenne super strength steel cage is nothing to sneeze at...though one must put the 2 cars side to side in a battery of tests to see which is safer...
I think the Porsche Stability system is better than the Volvo one....volvo markets its stability system loudly...together with its air bags....calling it the only antiroll-over system on the market...
Porsche has all of the above, and integrated with the traction control system . Cayenne has a few gyroscopes of its own , to detect yaw, pitch and roll, and all systems are integrated into one complete overall system....
With a cayenne with air suspension, then even that is linked to the overall anti-roll over system....it has a self leveling feature that automatically adjusts air pressure in the shocks on the side that it senses is tipping over....a real anti tip over compensator. Volvo does NOT have this. It only has a stability system coupled with side airbags.
IMO, Porsche, due to the need for the cayenne to be a sports car , has done more to prevent rollover, and more to increase stability and on road capability, than Volvo. and the numbers speak for them selves...
At the famed Nurbringen track...the Cayenne turned in lap times better than the 2003 boxster and on par with the BMW M3.....going that fast around the laps would leave the Volvo crashed and out of the track, IMO.
And boy did that take digging. If you call VW, all they do is read press releases to you.
Now if the T-reg just had a carbon filter for cabin air as the Cay has as an option.
I like the neatness and less buttons layout of the cayenne.
didn't know that the t-reg did not have a carbon air filter....
did you know that the cayenne has TWO separate hydraulic brake systems...(probably one for front, one for back, but I am not sure how) !!
So that when one system fails, the other will still work ? cool.... :-)
btw High, you need to see this off-topic pic. <g>
Steve, Host
thanks for info on the brakes....seems like a good idea to have dual circuits. According to Porsche , it is a redundant dual circuit.
LOL....wow....Nice pic !! seems like a great way to deliver KKs to sails.... ;-) <g>
talk about overkill.... :-)
well, to each his own, I guess....
Wouldn't it be interesting if the local VW guy would do the Porche $200 oil change for a VW like price, say $50? Wouldn't you pop for one every 5 to 6K as with other cars, say like those made in Munich?
I am not sure, but I think the V6 engine does not have a dry sump for lubrication...I know that both V8 engines have this feature.
I think the V8 engines are different for VW and Porsche...
don't know if the filter is exchangeable between the two...but I think you can get any oil change place to change to oil for $20 , if you provide the 10 quarts of Mobil 1 syn and the oil filter.
I get all the factory recommended oil changes done at the dealer, but in between, I get just the oil changed (not the oil filter) at a local shop .
First Choice:Cay.
Second:new 2006 m-class benz due out in mid-April
Third:Volvo XC90 due with BLIS in August.
Forth:Lexus R330 (or R400H).
Fifth:VW T-reg.
tidester, host
If the difference is withing $3K, will it be worth going for the Cayenne instead?
Without repeting any of the arguments advanced on that board, which car will be more fun to drive, own, and in 5 years sell for a higher percentage of your buy price?
Anyhow, my estimates were wrong. To get a comparable vehicle with equivalent features as the Toureg, the Cayenne would cost approximately $48.5K. That's a price difference of $8K. Will the price jump be well worth it?
IMHO Porsche is making a big mistake in not taking dead aim at the X5 3.0 crowd with good leases. The car is much better than the VW and significantly better than the X5. Ownership experience: Do you think they will remember your name at the high volume VW store or the "we sell all we can bring in at list price to these foolish yuppies" BMW store?
It's such a solid car - it feels so much better than X5 and VW.