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2013 and Earlier - Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Need to know the if it is a premium, premium plus, or prestige.
  • efildekufefildekuf Member Posts: 4
    it's a premium
  • jacobkjacobk Member Posts: 5
    It does seem to be a bit low. If the Carfax checks out as a one owner(don't always trust it though) then there's something else at work here. Read the fine print for additional fees such as another "delivery" charge for a used car. Yep I've seen some dealers do that. Also, misc. dealer fees like a 500.00 doc prep, emission fees and other small ones add up quickly.
  • efildekufefildekuf Member Posts: 4
    Carfax does show it as a one owner. the following just caught my eye on the carfax report:
    State safety inspection completed
    Pre-delivery inspection completed
    Body electrical wiring repaired
    A/C refrigerant recharged

    this was at the mileage 11, even before the car was leased.
    i'm not sure when exactly brakepads are supposed to be replaced, but this car had both front and rear brakepads replaced after 18K miles..
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    Full brake pad service is nearly guaranteed on Audi CPO. I've never seen a CPO car that didn't have it done.
  • efildekufefildekuf Member Posts: 4
    ah ok, that makes sense
  • sls2012sls2012 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    I am planning on buying a Audi A4 CPO which has the piston rings replaced and is being offered as a CPO. The price is $29k Out the door. Is it a good deal and is it ok to buy a car which has a engine repair?

    CarFax shows
    Engine removed to complete repair
    Piston rings replaced
    Cylinder head gasket replaced
    Radio replaced
    A/C refrigerant recharged

    Thanks,
    SS
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    29k is not a good deal. The car is going to be 4 years old and has major issues. Withe those issues who knows what else is going to go. I would keep looking and relax there are a ton of those cars out there.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    That sounds just like my old car to be honest. Mine had piston ring repairs. Personally I would not buy. If you do buy plan on possibly having your car back in the shop for something else.

    Since it is CPO you will have a warranty on it for a couple of years but once that is gone. Well let me put it this way. The amplifier failed on my car and the warranty repair was $2,000.

    Good luck.
  • snehsneh Member Posts: 3
    I am currently interested in buying the 2013 A4 Quattro with the Premium Plus package. I've looked around and there seems to be a wide range of cars with different sticker prices at various dealerships. I am not really concerned with any add-ons such as the Navi or B.O. Sound System. I am just looking for the car with AWD and standard features that come with the premium plus package.

    What should my estimate look like (including destination fee but without tax). I've seen a large varying rage in price from 35k-43k. I am expecting mine to be around the lower end since I don't want the extra features. Has anyone bought a similar one like the one I am describing? I would love some input.
  • jacobkjacobk Member Posts: 5
    As priced out the MSRP for an A-4 prem. plus will be 39,695 and add another 475 if it has metallic paint. We would sell you that car for 37,079 plus another 475 if it has metallic paint.
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Just go to the home page of this site and you can price the car out yourself, with any option you want. It will give you the retail price and invoice price, it will not give you wholesale cost.
  • urmieurmie Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2012
    Working with the internet manager of a dealership:

    2012 A4
    2.0T Premium Plus
    Premium Plus Package
    Mileage: 2,110

    Price: 35,750 (down from 36,495 on the site)

    No Loyalty bonus for CPOs, so that's out.
    Audi offers 1.9 financing.

    Quote from him: "I want to mentioned about two things here one savings of $5605, secound warranty value of $2800 versus new." (savings from MSRP of 41,350)
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    The warranty value of CPO so early in the life a car is indeed high if you drive a good number of miles. You have 6 yr 100k versus a brand new A4 having 4 yrs 50k. If you're under 15k miles per year, you can easily compute that you are going to run out of years before miles.

    It's not a bad deal. Still, I would try to grind out another $1,000.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    If you haven't pulled the trigger on the deal yet I would try to get them to move away from the notion that it is a new car and move to it being a used car.

    Like it or not, the 2013 models have been out since June. So, there shouldn't be any discussion about comparison to new. I personally would look at typical depreciated 2012 prices to see what the deal shows, then add the $2,800 in for the warranty.

    Speaking from experience, there is real value in an Audi warranty. I had the B&O amp replaced under warranty and that repair was $2k.

    So, to me see what the comparably equipped 2012 would sell for used and go from there.
  • urmieurmie Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2012
    Checked right here on Edmunds for used:
    http://www.edmunds.com/inventory/used/srp.html?radius=100&zip=11788&invtype=USED- - &bodyType=Sedan&model=Audi|A4+Sedan&mileage=*+TO+5000&year=2012&trim=2.0T+Premiu- - m+quattro&sort=&currentpage=1

    Adding 2,800 to these prices keeps it in range.

    Haven't heard anything in 2 days, I guess their internet division doesn't really keep up to date on emails.

    Appreciate both of your responses. Thanks!
  • car_findercar_finder Member Posts: 3
    2010 A4
    2.0T Premium Plus
    Premium Plus Package
    Navigation
    Rear view camera
    CPO
    Mileage: 22,000
     
    Price: $26,800 + tax + lic fee

    Car fax shows, it was a leased vehicle for 3 years and had only 1 owner.
     
    Folks, is this a good deal?

    Thanks.
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Buy out on that car after lease was about 21,500.00. You should be able to negociate that down to 23,000 plus tax.
  • car_findercar_finder Member Posts: 3
    I told the dealer what you mentioned but he says that the wholesale value of that car is $26,408.00?
  • car_findercar_finder Member Posts: 3
    It was listed for $29,500 and I negotiated it down to $26,800. Still not sure if this is a good price though?
  • rmorin1249rmorin1249 Member Posts: 8
    edited December 2012
    I finished my negotiation on a 2013 A4 Quattro, Glacier White/black; manual, Premium Plus, Sport Package, MMI Nav, Audi Advanced Key. MSRP: $43,320; Invoice is $40,400; My Cost: $40,250. Local dealer has to get the car from another dealer. Hopefully the deal will work out.
  • l_narasimhanl_narasimhan Member Posts: 2
    I am looking to purchase a 2012 Audi A4 CPO

    $29600

    Packages: Convenience + Style

    It was listed at $31.5K. Dealer isn't willing to come below $29600.

    Is this a good deal or should I try bargaining more?
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    You need to get the msrp of the car when it was first sold and list the miles on the car and someone will give their opinion.
  • l_narasimhanl_narasimhan Member Posts: 2
    The current MSRP listed on the car right now is $34,600

    I checked autos.aol.com for the MSRP of a new 2012 a4. That value is $35,075. (I have emailed my dealer to find out the MSRP, of when it was first sold)

    The mileage on the car is close to 10,000 miles. The dealer mentioned that the car was a previous service loaner in his dealership.
  • sigma004sigma004 Member Posts: 2
    I am negotiating on a

    2011 A4 CPO Quattro, quartz /black; automatic, Premium Plus, convenience Package. 20,120 miles one owner clean slate. Invoice $33,500 Have them down to $29,000. Audi Care included from previous owner and 6 yr warranty 100k plus and qualify for 1.9 apr is this a good deal or should I still keep pushing? Thanks for help.
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Find out when it was first purchased and the msrp at that time and we can start there.
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Let me know when you get all the info but the price does sound very high to me. You should be able to get a 2013 for the same payment. Prices are coming down with 1.8 interest.
  • sigma004sigma004 Member Posts: 2
    First purchased aDecember 2010. The msrp was $36, 800
  • tsx114tsx114 Member Posts: 3
    Hi I just recieved a quote for a 2011 A4 premium plus w/ navigation in 6 spd manual, CPO for $31, 500. Single owner with 17000 miles. The price includes all doc fees etc but does not include tax. Dealer stated that he paid 29600 for the car and certification was costing him 1400.

    Retail on the car including destination was ~40500

    Is this a good deal? Thanks in advance
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    You need to appraise your car using the this link.
    http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/

    You can not go go by what the dealer says he paid for the trade in. Those are just numbers that can be moved around to look like a good deal in any way. The buy out on that car after 3 years would be around 21k so if you pay 31k you will have a car that would wholesale at 21k after 1 year. Not a good deal. I would say the car is worth 25k tops.
  • tsx114tsx114 Member Posts: 3
    I understand the lease buy out was probably 21k, but how would you even get a dealer to agree to a price like 25k? there aren't too many manuals out there in the market, let a long certified and premium plus at this price point. How much value does CPO add to the car? If you have some tips on how to negotiate please share. Thanks.
  • rmorin1249rmorin1249 Member Posts: 8
    Took delivery of my A4 Quattro on 12/21/12. Car is very nice but it will take me a while to figure out all the capabilities of the MMI, NAV and Audi Connect options. The Audi Advanced Key is nice but the nicest feature are the sport seats and the 6 speed manual tranny. Dealer worked with me on several accessories; wheel locks, all weather mats and trunk liner at a nice discount. Feel very good about the deal and the car. I've been driving BMWs for over 25 years but felt it was time to try an Audi.
  • NormWNormW Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2013
    Hey guys... just wanted to get an idea of what you think about this lease offer?

    2013 Audi A4 - Premium 2.0T Automatic CVT
    Options:
    -Convenience package
    -Lighting package
    -Wheel locks
    -Chrome exhaust tips

    MSRP: $35,735

    Trade in equity on my old A5: -$500
    Audi loyalty: -$1000

    Negotiated price with incentives and trade-in: $31,300

    Audi care: +$820

    FINAL NEGOTIATED PRICE INCLUDING AUDI CARE: $32,120

    42-month lease
    52% residual
    10k miles/yr
    .00071 money factor
    $695 acq fee

    Residual: $18,582
    $0 security deposit, $0 down, $0 drive-off (walk off the lot paying nada)

    Monthly payment: $376 (includes CA 8.75%)

    Should I pull the trigger?
    Thanks,
    Mike
  • NormWNormW Member Posts: 16
    Just a correction to the above...
    $32,120 final price does NOT include the trade in
    The $500 trade-in is going towards the cap-reduction/up front cost

    Thanks!
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Why do you need Audi Care on a lease?

    The purchase price for the car should be 32,500 (not counting audi care) before trade in, audi loyalty and any other discounts you may have. You have a lot more negociating to do.
  • NormWNormW Member Posts: 16
    Thanks for your reply.
    I'm getting Audi Care because I intend to purchase the car at the end of the lease. Given the lease rate, even including fees, it would actually work out to be slightly cheaper to lease the car and buy it out rather than finance it from the start. Plus, it's easier to write off the lease payment rather than figure out the depreciation on the car if I were to finance it.

    As far as the cost of the car, I'm actually down to $32,300.
    Then there is the $1000 loyalty cash and my $500 trade in on top of that.

    So price is $31,300 (inc loyalty cash) and then $500 trade in.

    Let me know... Thanks!!!
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Sounds about right. If you are going to keep the car, I would step up to a premimum plus. Also follow this link and try to get the car at dealer invoice.

    http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
  • NormWNormW Member Posts: 16
    I thought about the premium plus... it would be about an extra $1400 to upgrade. Since I already am paying for the two things that I want (convenience and lighting packages), the only remaining items would be the heated seats, 60/40 rear split back, and the auto-dimming mirrors. I figured those are negligible anyway. I couldn't really care about dual zone climate... so I'd rather pocket the extra money.

    I also think the dealer is trying to move this car over the premium plus from what my gut says... and that's fine for me.

    Thanks!!!
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    I would forget about Audi Care and get the premium plus. The trim and advanced key are well worth it and you will get it all back and plus when you sell it.
  • NormWNormW Member Posts: 16
    From what I see on the 2013 A4, there's no advanced key standard on the premium plus... it's standard on the prestige. The only remaining difference is heated seats, auto dimming mirrors, split rear seat, multi zone climate control, and aluminum door trim. So its those options or would I rather save $1500?!?!?
    I'm leaning towards saving the $1500, as the only one of those options I would like is the auto dimming mirrors... the rest I don't care.

    I think the price is fair... need to pull trigger today!
  • mrwisemrwise Member Posts: 4
    Hi everyone,

    New to the forum here. Just wanted to ask if the following link is a good deal? I'm not familiar at all with Audis, and wanted to ask if the price of the car is decent. I will of course attempt to negotiate, but I'm not an existing or previous Audi owner or anything.

    http://www.tysonscorneraudiofvienna.com/certified/Audi/2012-Audi-A4-c2d755f90a0a- 00e0004db60240d8dd5a.htm

    Thanks for your help!
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Looks to me by the link you posted you already know. You do not need to waste our time here.
  • mrwisemrwise Member Posts: 4
    I'm not sure how you deduced that from the link I posted. If it was a good deal, I wouldn't be posting on forums, would I? Since I don't know, I asked. Thanks for your help I guess.
  • jacobkjacobk Member Posts: 5
    Make sure to ask what the processing fee is. They can charge up to I beleive it is 499.00 in Virginia. We have one with more equipment, same year and lower miles that we can do for less.
  • mrwisemrwise Member Posts: 4
    Hi Jacobk, thank you for your response! Will keep that in mind. Are you a dealer or something?
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Sorry, I misunderstood your post, I thought it was spam. Just use the following link to appraise the car.

    http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
  • mrwisemrwise Member Posts: 4
    Thank you jnyz, will do.
  • ilauilau Member Posts: 10
    Hi All,

    I'm new to the forum and new to leasing cars (I've been driving a 1998 camry for the last 4 years). I'm looking at a lease special on a 2013 A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic. Some info is below:

    MSRP: $34,600
    Convenience Package: $1100
    Heated Front Seats: $450
    Wheel Lock Kit: $100
    First Aid Kit: $45
    Total Price: $37,190

    Lease terms are:
    $2995 down
    $1000 conquest incentive if you own a luxury car (I have a 1998 Camry...)
    $3995 fees total drive off
    42 month 15k miles
    $350.54/mo out the door

    Is this a good deal or how can I better negotiate this? Which parts of this lease can I negotiate and what should I be aiming for? I know this is a pretty broad question but I have no idea what to expect and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks everybody!
  • jvanderbiltjvanderbilt Member Posts: 1
    Great job on this forum. Really have enjoyed/appreciate all your time and comments to others. Now, it's my turn?

    Which do you guys like?

    I am in SoCal, buying cash. No trade.

    Option A:
    New 2013 A4 2.0 T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC
    Black/Black
    Premium Plus Package
    Navigation Plus
    Quote: $37,000 flat + tax + tags

    Option B:
    Used 2013 2.0T FWD MULTITRONIC
    Yes, a 2013. 2000 miles on it.
    NO CPO, original warranty only. Used 6 weeks. Owner changed mind, bought something else

    Has Everyting Option A has, plus
    +Advanced Key
    +B&O Sound (which I don’t really care about)
    No Audi Care. Orig Owner Didn't buy.

    Quote: 37,980 (+980 over the brand new) + tax + tag

    Any insights much appreciated,

    Jamie in SoCal
  • jnyzjnyz Member Posts: 102
    Please use this lease calculator.

    http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm

    Everything is negotiable in a lease. Even though you are leasing you still have to negotiate a sale price, interest rate and buyout at the end of the lease.

    Use this link to find out what the sale price should be for the car

    http://www.edmunds.com/audi/a4/2013/options.html?sub=sedan

    Your interest/money factor rate should be around .00064 and your residual/buyout should be 54%. You need to get everything down, your payment is way too high..
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