2013 and Earlier - Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kyfdx · June 2005

Yes... a good deal.. if it turns out to be accurate...

regards,
kyfdx

mpass · June 2005

thanks. I think it's the real deal. See DC Audi Deal

rjlaero · June 2005

Audi's new 2.0 FSI turbo is a very sweet engine. Lot's of low end torque and great gas mileage to boot. You can push 40k on the 2.0T, but that's probably loaded up with every option and the 2 grand MMI navigation.

Price out a 3 series BMW or a C class Mercedes and your in the same money.

You can buy a Quattro A4 for what Mercedes and BMW charge for their 2wd's.

bethc · June 2005

Has anyone leased in the D.C. area under this current program of $329/month for 36 months? What was your experience? Did you do better than the deal as advertised? Any dealership advice? I would like to cut a deal on an A4 Quattro in the next couple of days and would appreciate any wisdom. Thanks.

bigpapaluke · June 2005

What are the typical residuals this forum has been seeing on a lease for a new A4 2.0T Quattro? Dealership in Charlotte is quoting me at 58% for 3 years / 12K and 56% for 3 years / 15K. Their money factors are looking attractive (1.73 or .0072), but was curious to here what people have been seeing thus far on the residual.

johng75370 · June 2005

Anyone have an opinion on the sports package....looking at an 05.5 A4 2.0T CVT, and there is one on the lot with it. The dealer is offering to throw it in for free (we had previously agreed on price for one without it, but now he can't find one), but if it makes for a significantly bumpier ride I may not want to go for it. Anyone out there regret not having gotten it (or having gotten it)? I'll test drive it tomorrow, but thought with many good opinions in this forum this would be a good topic to throw out there...

nismor · June 2005

hi, im thinking about getting an 06 too, and you said they offer paddle shifting with the s-line package is that right?
thank you

tremaine · July 2005

According to the 06 Order Guide the S-Line steering wheel will have paddle shifters when ordered with Tiptronic transmissions.

ern16 · July 2005

I am trying to negotiate a lease for a 2005.5 A4 2.0T w/ premium package. I've never leased before and would like to know what is negotiable. They had an offer for $3300 down +fees and $349/mo for 24 months at 10k mi/yr. I got him to give me $2500 drive off, $349/mo price for 36 months at 12k mi/yr. Is this a good deal? The car has been on the lot for 2+ months and he seems eager to get rid of it.

wco81 · July 2005

There's a separate forum for transactions (for each car model).

But most of the guys there would say you're probably putting too much down on a car you don't own.

ern16 · July 2005

Thanks. After reading some posts in this forum I realize that now.

opksguy · July 2005

Audi currently has an special lease on the 2005 A4 2.0T quattro Sedan
$359 per month 24-month lease
Down payment $1999
This is based on a MSRP of $33,170.00. I am looking at an car with MSRP of $35,170. The dealership is saying that the $2000 increase in MSRP implies an increase of $60 / month. Is this typical?

Any help will be appreciated.

edavis3 · July 2005

I'm planning on buying an A4 this weekend in the DFW area. I don't believe that the 06s are out yet (not sure) - so if it is an 05.5, is the 4 cyl option a 1.8 or a 2.0?

I'm wondering what we should expect to pay over invoice for an A4, Black, 1.8/2.0? The TMV report says that in DFW people are paying full MSRP...?

Also, does anyone know what Audi's finance rates are right now? specifically for 60 months?

thank you.

wco81 · July 2005

Here are the details on the A4 leases, for both the FWD and Quattro versions:

http://www.audiusa.com/specialoffers_detail/0,5882,soId-441_,00.html?referringPage=special- Offers&specialoffer=A4Summerleaseoffer

It's $1999 down payment but the total due at lease inception is $3200-3300. Plus the monthly figures probably do not include taxes.

Now will individual dealers offer better terms than these or will they just stick to what Audi is doing?

If you can get the drive-off around $1500 and keep the monthly around the same after taxes and these cars have Premium, Auto and xenons, they'd get a sale from me.

cxs410 · July 2005

2005.5 A4
Sports Package
Premium Package
Lighting Package
Audio Package
Navigation Package
Headlight Washers

0 Down. $500 a month x 36 Months 12k Miles Per Year, including low jack and paint protection. That is where we are when I left tonight, and they still have some room to move.

I want to get these guys down to $450 a month.. and 15k miles... think it is possible?

travan · July 2005

I spoke with my local Audi dealer about ordering a new 2006 A4. He stated that White is an order only color, which I can live with; however, he stated that the only interior color with white as exterior is beige. I personally don't like beige and I can't understand why Audi wouldn't provide more choices. I would like the platnium if I could get it. Apparently Audi has also dropped the green color and light blue colors.

Has anybody else heard about the color choices (exterior/interior) on the 2006's?

BTW the local dealer here told me that they are scheduled to get their 2006's in next week.

rjlaero · July 2005

Check w/ your local Audi dealer again. They're always making changes and amending the order guides.

Ebony has been added to the interior choices and can be ordered w/ the arctic white exterior on the 2006 A4.

travan · July 2005

Wow, that was fast of Audi. I had just found out about the white/beige this past weekend. Now I have to go back. Now if I could get the premium package without the sunroof....Why they couldn't put the leather seats in the premium package much less the trip computer?? I would like someday to talk to an Audi marketing person about how they decide these choices.

Kirstie_H · July 2005

A reporter hopes to interview recent VW or Audi model buyers aged 30-40 who are first time buyers of a VW Group car and willing to discuss their profession/income; and recent VW or Audi buyers aged 30-40 who are repeat buyers of the brand and willing to discuss their profession/income. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com by Wednesday, July 20, 2005, and provide your daytime contact information.

aspesisteve · July 2005

Anyone have a price to report for the '05 A4 Cabriolet? I haven't seen one post yet.

I'm hoping to help my mom out who gets quotes from dealers that seem really high - i.e. over MSRP!
I'm in California and will go just about anywhere to score the right car at a decent price.

Is there a way to search dealer inventory through the internet??

kyfdx · July 2005

A $2K increase in MSRP implies about a $25-$30/mo. increase in the monthly lease price..

A $2K increase in the selling price on the same MSRP car would imply a $60/mo. increase...

Just generally...

regards,
kyfdx

doorcounty · July 2005

I live in the Netherlands and I am moving back to the U.S.

I lease an audi A4 avant and recently saw on edmunds that there is $1,000 owner loyalty cash available to owner/lessees.

Two questions:

I want to purchase a new 2005 A4 2.0 and would like to know if I could receive the cash. The dealer in Denver says no. Doesn't seem right.

How does edmunds get this incentive info and is there a way to get the info straight from the company. There is nothing on the audi website.

many thanks

ern16 · July 2005

I am trying to get a similar deal on the same car without the audio package. I have not really started negotiations with any dealer yet but I am looking to go $0 down for around $440/month. Could you post the MSRP and sell price for the car. Also, post if you got the deal or not. I am going to a dealership tomorrow and will post what I come up with. Thanks.

wco81 · August 2005

Okay, finally got a dealer to give me a detailed quote on a lease by email.

Audi A4 2.0T Frontrak CVT with Premium and 17" wheels
MSRP: 32,020
Residual: 58%
Money Factor: 0.00135
Drive off: $1500
Term: 36 months
Miles: 10k/yr
Payment: $422.29/month which includes CA sales tax.

Claims this is the "very best" he could do and more equipment would mean higher payments. Not sure about the disposition fee at the end of the lease.

kyfdx · August 2005

I get a cap cost of around $30,250, using those numbers...

I'd guess this computes to about a $2000-2200 discount from MSRP, once you take into account acquisition fees and CA registration.. I assumed an 8.25% sales tax rate..

I don't follow pricing too much for A4s... If $2K off is a good deal, then I'd say the quote looks good.

regards,
kyfdx

wco81 · August 2005

Unless he left something out in the options it doesn't add up.

It's a black A4 so no metallic paint. At audiusa.com, I get 31,870 as the MSRP.

A4 2.0 CVT $28,550
Premium Pkg $2,100
"17" wheels" $500
Destination $720

Total $31870

Well I don't absolutely love this car so the deal would have to blow me away. See if I can get more.

wco81 · August 2005

Oh nm. California emissions, $150, to make it $32,020.

OK WHT, the only way to get xenons is to buy the lighting package at $1,425?

And you have to buy the Premium Package at $2100 in order to get the Lighting Package?

Ridiculous.

geckofrog · August 2005

Im thinking about getting a lease deal with Audi. I have never leased before and would like some help. I heard that you really don't need to put anything down for a lease, since if you wrecked that car right after you left their lot, you would lose that money.

A4 2.0 CVT $28,550
Premium Pkg $2,100
"17" wheels" $500
Destination $720

Total $31870

Im in the DFW area, what is a good lease payment for the options I have listed?

fitrich · August 2005

I'm new to this forum and just learned of the special lease offer for the Audi A4 2.0 quattro in D.C. Did you lease the car? If so, what was your experience? With whom, etc.? Thanx for your response.
Rich

bigpapaluke · August 2005

05.5 A4 2.0T 6MT Quattro, Premium, Sport, Cold, Lighting, Non-Metallic Paint

MSRP: 35195
Selling: 34195
Cap cost: 36751 (including processing fee and tags and $2K of neg equity from trade)
Residual 53% (42 months at 12K per year)
Money Factor: .00092
Tax in Charlotte: 3%
Monthly Payment: $495
Due at signing: $0

Anyone think I can get the selling price even lower?

kyfdx · August 2005

3% tax.... killing me...

As you probably already know... the numbers add up.. And, you'll be in warranty the entire time, so no problems with the 42 months..

My local dealer is already advertising $1000 off MSRP on the brand-new A3.. so, I'd think you could do a little better on the A4..

$500 less saves you $12/mo... I'd try for that, at the least.. but, I wouldn't be upset with a payment of $495... A pretty decent deal, considering you are rolling in $2K of negative equity..

regards,
kyfdx

bigpapaluke · August 2005

I know - sales tax in Charlotte is 7.5 but on cars it's 3%. Sweeeeeeet!

I may try the 2% over invoice route and see what reaction I get. If negative, I'll go for 3%, which is roughly a $1500 discount (your suggestion).

You're right - considering they are willing to roll in negative equity, it's a solid deal. I do think they can do a little better since sales have been a tad slow. I'll keep the board posted.

Thanks for the input,
Luke

earcom · August 2005

Audi is currently offering $1000 Owner Loyalty customer bonus cash on 2005.5 A4s but it is only available to current Audi owners or lessees of 1998 to current model year Audi cars. What I would like to know is whether or not there is a way this offer might apply to a current owner of a VW Passat as well as a former owner of a 1998 Audi A4 2.8? Has anyone had any success with an Audi owner loyalty program using a VW vehicle?

Too, I tried to get the .00092 53% 42mnth 12K lease program mentioned in post 444 but the dealer said the best money factor available was 0.00135 for 36 months. Perhaps Ill try again.

rjlaero · August 2005

Manual quattros aren't that plentiful on dealer lots right now, so a grand off isn't that bad. Maybe you'll be able to get more if it's a car in stock. Anything between 1000-1500 off doesn't seem like a raw deal.

The 05.5's lease out a lot better than a new 06 will as well, so don't expect a dealer to give it way if he doesn't have to.

francie · August 2005

Here's where I am at.
2005.5 A4 2.0 quattro silver w/black interior--premium, cold, light packages,

$575 acquisition fee
money factor of .00125 or 3%

their sticker: 36095
negotiated price so far: 35000

residual: 20935.10
36 months, 12,000/yr
no security deposit.
monthly payment: 441.93 plus tax.

Is this too high? I'm not really interested in the light package but the dealer says they don't have any cars with premium+cold w/o the light package. Not too many dealers in my area to choose from.

kyfdx · August 2005

How much money is due at signing?

I'm guessing you are making some kind of down payment or cap cost reduction, because the payment is $460.61/mo., using your figures..

Unless we know the initial payment, and how it breaks down, it is impossible to know if they are being straight with you...

The price would seem average at best, though I'm not that familiar with what the A4 is selling for..

regards,
kyfdx

francie · August 2005

$2000 down, which they broke out as follows:

1st payment 482.15 (40.22 in tax!)
cap reducation (down payment) 1218.24
tax on cap reducation 110.86
documentation fee 35.00
DMV/Admin Fees 153.75

Thanks.

kyfdx · August 2005

Then that puts their number right on the money.. They are rolling the acquisition fee into the lease...

9.1% tax? Ouch.. That sounds like PA or WA....

I don't know if .00125 is the base money factor... but, if it is, the good thing about this lease is they aren't adding in a bunch of bogus fees, or jacking up acquisition fees, etc....

So, the only thing you really have to consider: Is $1100 off MSRP a good deal, or not? I don't follow prices enough to answer that for you..

On another note.. I know it feels good to keep your payment lower (like, under $500?), but there is really no point in making a cap cost reduction.. It is just an illusory savings.. It doesn't lower the total cost of the lease..

If it were me, I'd take out the $1218.24 + 110.86 tax.. dropping your due at signing to about $715... Of course, this will raise your payment to about $481/mo. + tax... About $525/mo. total..

If you can negotiate a lower price? Each $100 lower will save about $3/mo. on the payment..

regards,
kyfdx

ppt · August 2005

I just started looking at the new Audi A4 2.0. I test drove one the other day. It had the S package on it and the MSRP was about 36,500.

I am looking to lease, probably for 36 months and I have great credit. Can anyone tell me about how much I should be thinking to put down? Is $3000 down and $350/month too much for this car? Can I get this car for something more like $299/ month?

Any information will help....this is my first lease!

craigp1 · August 2005

Hi,

I never liked leasing, especially putting money down. You are better off saving the money you would put down, and use it to pay the difference for the higher monthly payment. Also make sure you negotiate the price of the car before telling them you want to lease. Dealers often advertise low monthly payments, but in order to get the monthly payment so low, a lot of money needs to be put down. Not good strategy for a lease. Go with no money down (other than the essentials).

I'm looking at a 2006 A4, 2.0 T Quattro, 6 spd, Premium, Sunroof, sport suspension, MSRP 34,400, Invoice 32, 040, Paying 32,940. $900 over invoice seems pretty good to me. I plan on buying.

A good way to check the lease is to see what is would cost to buy, including the best interest rate you can find. See what the total payments are. Do the same for the lease. From most expert web sites, buying is ultimately cheaper, especially if you drive over 12,000 miles a year.

soluved · August 2005

Hi Everyone,

Im a first time audi buyer and am currently in negotiations with the dealer for an 2005 A4 2.0 T quattro. I wanted to find out if infact Audi is offering the Audi loyalty bonus on the A4s. My sister recently bought an A4 and I figured it might be worth a shot. Please reply if anyone has any ideas.

Also, I've heard that some companies offer new college graduate incentives. Does Audi offer any and what are the requirements?

thanks,

joannab · August 2005

I think you're very close --- looks good enough. BUT -- on the 2005.5's they can give you a money factor of .00072 right now if they add $500 to the sell price (which works in your favor). It's called buying down the rate...

joannab · August 2005

yes it's true. they can take $1000 off the selling price. BUT -- dont tell them you have that car UNTIL after you get the final sale price, otherwise they could just bump you up $1000 and then take it down by that much when they show you the discount...

rjlaero · August 2005

You're crazy if you think you can lease a new $36,500 2006 A4 for $350/month. Audi was advertising a $359/month lease with about $3500 down on a 33k Quattro. And that was an 05.5, not an 06. The 06's don't lease out near as well. And your trying to buy a car that's 3 grand more expensive that they were advertising.

coastie007 · August 2005

I have an '01 Isuzu Trooper. So the reliability is incredible on my truck. My driving is about 75% highway driving and with my SUV getting 14.5mpg on the highway and with rising gas prices and no decrease ever insight I need to jump on the wagon and get a more gas economical ride. I have been researching the A4 '1.8T quattro, '01 and '02 models (preferably the '02).
The question is whether or not those vehicles are worth the investment. Are there any major problems with these two cars? Does anyone considering them a money hole? I don't know the reliability on these cars, and being that I am in the Coast Guard there isn't alot to go around so reliability is a big concern of mine. Are they dependable/comparable to a camry or accord or is this the kind of car that has "it's fair share of problems?"
thanks for the help

mcmuney · August 2005

I don't know if people are using the Audi website, they have a special on a 2 year lease on a 2005 A4 2.0T Quattro for only $359 per month (including tax).

This is even better news. I was looking to trade-in my 2004 A4 3.0 CVT for the 2005.5 model and I was being offered a 3-yr lease payment of about $530 including tax. I was turned off by the deal. The dealer now just informed that Audi just launched a owner loyalty program last week and the same cars is being offered to me at $410 including tax. This is true good to be true.

Has anyone heard of this loyalty program???

rjlaero · August 2005

There is $1000 owner loyalty on the 05.5 A4 if you are a current Audi owner.

byronwalter · August 2005

The '02 B6 A4 series is more reliable that the previous generation. Audi and VW had troubles with the ignition coils on some cars using the 1.8t engine during the '01 & '02 model years. Many were replaced (they tended to fail sooner rather than later). I had an '02 Avant with the manual transmission and the car was excellent but others have had not so excellent experiences. Due to this I would want to see the service records for any A4 under consideration and I would also want to look into an extended coverage plan of some sort. BTW, this car is not exactly a rocket and the AT transmission doesn't help matters.

I just picked up a new A4 over the weekend and, after a few days, think the car is the bomb but I gotta tell you that I probably wouldn't buy a four year old A4... and you did mention reliability as a "big concern." For the price of a used A4 Avant you are in the ball park price range of a four-door Scion, Mazda 3 wagon and a bunch of other small, sporty wagon-like cars... but then perhaps you have a sense of adventure :P

Hey... best of luck to ya!

Byron

mcmuney · August 2005

Just test drove a 2005.5 3.2 A4. The loyalty program offers $1000 and .00072 money factor if you're leasing.

I'm almost ready to make a deal but I can't get any payment calculator to tie back to dealers payments. The difference in monthly payment is always around $100 bucks. Here's how I'm calculating the monthly payment:

MSPR: $41,570
Residual Value: $22,448 (54% - 15K 3-YR lease)
Purchase Price: $39,000
MF: .00072
Down: $5000
Audi Incentive: $1000
Term: 36 months

My payment figures:

Depreciation: $293
Finance: $40
Tax: $27

Total Payment: $361
Dealer Calculate Payment: $434

A difference of $73 per month. Am I calculating incorrectly or is the dealer trying to screw me???

kyfdx · August 2005

Some possibilities..

1) The dealer has already factored the incentive into the purchase price..

2) What you are referring to as $5000 down, is really $5000 due at signing... If you take out 1st payment, security deposit and acquistion fee, then that lowers the downpayment part of it to around $3500...

That equals $2500 total.. Almost $70/mo.. That is pretty close to your difference... That might be it... or not... just guessing..

regards,
kyfdx

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