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"For a lousy extra 1/2 percent I know I would go with Honda without a second thought!"
Somebody pinch me; that's the second time today i AGREE with "isellhondas"
So glad he's a part of this board (and a few others)...really!
I just try to tell it like it is and that's after a lifetime in retail.
More years than I'll admit to.
2017 Accord Sport CVT Mod Steel Metallic
I finally came to the conclusion that it's not so much the dollars. It the nagging fear that maybe, just maybe, someone else bought the same car for a bit less money.
Life is short folks.....
I recieved a blank check from Pen fed for the amount i requested with a 90 day validation period.
No pre penalty to pay off principal early. My membership was free. the rate is 1.49%.
Make Honda match that offer or give Pen Fed your business.
Honda fan you negotiated a good deal.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
The dealership I bought from agreed to reduce their original quoted price by almost $1,300 ($29.0K reduced to $27.7K, MSRP of car was $30.8K) as a result of my face to face negotiation. The dealership agreed to sell me the car at a price I agreed to pay. My negotiation was not a pressure packed confrontational experience. I was an informed consumer and leveraged the information I had to close a deal that benefited me (and since the dealership wasn't forced to sign the purchase agreement must have benefited from the transaction as well). The negotiation closed fast, didn't take up hours of a salesperson's valuable time so he received his commission and had plenty of time to deal with other potential buyers that same day.
I believe in treating people fairly, I also believe that in a free market economy an individual owes it to themselves to make informed decisions when electing to incur a significant expense such as purchasing a house or a new car. Buyers are motivated to purchase at the lowest price and the car dealers are motivated to maximize margin opportunity on all transactions. The signed purchase agreement reflects a position determined agreeable to both parties. In most every circumstance, an uninformed buyer is at a significant disadvantage in this scenario.
my advice was to help this girl get out of a bad situation - the same one the dealer put me in - even though I have years of buying experience - didn't matter - they forced us to buy warranty to take deal & we needed a car - luckily we could quickly undo the screw over
tired of seeing innocent victims of greedy unethical car dealers!
I am not an [non-permissible content removed] kisser - but am honest & to the point - good observation
p.s.
I'm a "her"
=]
It's the small percentage of people that crossed the line that bothered me.
I would sell them cars but they never seemed to be happy and I didn't care if I ever saw them again.
I had no problem making those sales but it was never fun.
that being said, if you cannot understand that going through a divorce may affect some people's credit ratings, you really are unaware of interpersonal relationships and financial hardship due to life events - sorry but I can't explain this one to you
you took this way off base - divorce was just one example of many I suggested that may affect someone's credit score - you took a simple statement and blew it way out of proportion.
stick to the topic!
I despise unethical car dealers more than anyone but I would have simply walked out.
Sounds like that'll never happen to you again! A good thing!
we did ask several times for it to be removed - they refused - we needed a car that day, so unfortunately we bought despite the shady sales tactic of the finance person ( may I add we did buy car for $2800 below invoice, so we were getting a good deal, and we did remove warranty one week later - so we lost nothing, but the finance person did lose her commission)
we've never purchased a warranty before, ever, and always are looking at the screen in the finance office to be sure we're not getting screwed by them adding on things at the last second
no, this will never happen again!
and I'm happy I was able to help the girl that it did happen to
thanks for your comment
stick to the subject!
buying cars and helpful advice!
stick to the subject!
buying cars & helpful advice!
Buying new can mean worry free, warranty covered issues, and better reliability
Buying used can mean costly repairs and unreliability - something (especially females) cannot sacrifice
however my post was simply about the credit issues that many Americans today face, that is all =] I was replying to a poster who obviously does not understand that for some people - most people - 9.49 interest rate is OK for them - and the best they can get given a tough economy and poor credit - it's not 30% - it's not that horrible
A few years back when I was leasing a new car, I had a target of $249 per month that I'd calculated would be an excellent deal. The salesman came back with $252. I spent the next 3 hours negotiating to get the $249. My wife told me while I was still feeling pleased with myself that I'd just spent 3 hours of mine, hers and the salesman's time to save $108 over 3 years.
Let me clarify something: they will not report to the credit bureau on a "debit" card attached to your account - but by opening a checking account with them, with a debit card attached to that account, you could then apply for a credit card with them - that's when they would report to credit bureau - by opening the account they would see you are financially responsible (don't make any mistakes) and that's when in 6-8 months you can apply for an auto loan with them - this is a good strategy that really works!
Hope that this helps
When you guys are done licking your mortal wounds ..... Maybe you should consider just ripping me... :sick:..... ... LOL
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
1. Glad to see you've had time to catch up on your responses to previous posts.
Here's my .02
"again, why use my post to vent and rant - going completely off subject? "
It's what we do. Besides, I'd had too much caffeine that day
"stick to the subject! "
I think we did. Many of us STILL find it amazing that anyone can be FORCED in to buying something they don't want. Perhaps it was the time crunch you were in to buy a car THAT DAY.
"buying cars & helpful advice!"
it's important to learn from one's mistakes; either our own or what we read on COOPERATIVE forums like these. This is one of the more popular threads on edmunds so we tend to get a little bit of everything on here. Overall, I think it's worthwhile and i try to give back more than i get.
Lastly, the fact that you mentioned you were female has nothing to do with my opinion or responses. Now, some dealership personnel may think they can get one over on you, but that is NOT always the case. time to move on - i'm boring myself...
And I think your reply to my comment was rather rude and did not expect it from you considering you have expressed the opinion that rudeness in not appropriate in the forum.
And you can decide what posts of mine are helpful and I'll do the same with yours. Glad you don't have a self-esteem issue.
For the record, I am very happy that she was able to unwind that screwjob and get her money back. I also hope that "ar831" is equally successful in that regard.
As i tell my kids, if you do things right the FIRST time, you don't waste time and brain cells cleaning up the mess. They still love me though (i think).
Sermon over.
Tirerack dot com has all the OEM tires listed for each trim level.
LX (16 inch version): Firestone Affinity (yuk) or Continental ContiproContact (ok) both ~$110
EX (17 inch version): Goodyear Assurance ($133); Michelin Primacy MXV4 ($184)
Sport (18 inch version): Michelin Primacy MXM4 ($252)
For some of you out there, just make sure they are rubber, round and black... :surprise:
No one is buying honda cars at the moment and posting those crazy prices of getting ripped off have stopped for the moment and the players in this forum got there testosterone back and cleared the air with love, and marriage, debt, and warranties i have a question.
I just came back from church.
Do i need to work on my people skills????????
Purchasing a car online or by phone doesn't add up to a stressful situation. Saves many hours of wasted time in dealerships. fastest way to determine
What market value is for any vehicle.......Buying this way' has proven to me how i receive a good deal. Its not about sucking every penny out of the deal. It is nice knowing you made the best deal possible in your area. Or going down the road to make a good deal.
Tomorrow i'll probably have road rage back.
Lets go Silver lining play book........... I'M rooting for the young girl Lawrence to win the academy award... al thou Ann Hathaway was also very good.
And she drives a Honda
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Wow, what a condescending putz. Get a life, dude.
The entry level tire is probably about the same you'd get on a base Camry, Sonata, Fusion, etc. Not a great tire, but pretty good H rated stuff for the price.
I prefer Michelin to Goodyear, but even the Goodyear Assurance tire is decent.
Is it a BMW or Mercedes tire? A couple of notches down from that, but still pretty good rubber for the price imho.
Primacy™ MXV4®
Luxury Performance Touring
ALL SEASON TIRE
Perfect for Comfort -oriented touring vehicles such as Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, this tire delivers all-season traction and a safe, Comfort able ride backed by a 60,000-mile limited warranty.1
Benefits of Michelin
60,000-Mile Limited Warranty.1
MaxTouch Construction™ maximizes the tire’s contact with the road and evenly distributes the forces of acceleration, braking and cornering, resulting in longer wear.1
Enjoy a Quiet, Comfortable Ride.
MICHELIN® Comfort Control Technology™ uses computer-optimized design and precision manufacturing to reduce vibrations and road noise.
Confident Wet-Weather Handling.
Unique tread design offers numerous biting edges for all-season grip in rain and snow.
Price before ttl 28223
Ttl and doc fees 598
Taxes 7% nj
Otd price was 30,796 I'm a little concerned because I put my deposit down already as I'm thinking of renegotiating with them is is possible?
If it is the I4 CVT with Nav, the MSRP is about 30,800. Even after adding doc fees, your Sale price is about 28,600-28,700. If you got a few options included with the car, it is close to invoice, so it's not a bad deal. Enjoy the new car !
I don't know if you can renegotiate the deal after deposit, but you can convince the dealer to throw in a few options/oil changes/service deals, may be ?
The lowest I was offered was $25,300 out the door from a showroom 50mi away and it wasn't even the color of my choice.
Apparently this seems like a good deal since not many are showing interest in selling it.
Has anyone else seen the same thing happen? Also, what do you think about this non-negotiable price?
But the factory in Ohio is going full tilt, and so supplies should be catching up with demand by this time.
Try Carwoo.
But a V rated Michelin is a fine performance tire. It's more tire than probably 95% of people ever need on a family sedan.
But that's kinda like the Accord itself. They didn't meet the federal crash standards—they exceeded them. Almost everything in the Accord is done to a very nice level, esp. given the price.
And so I think most people can feel happy about the Accord's OEM tires. They're all that you would expect—or maybe even a little more than that—for this price point.
Maybe we can buy together to get better deal.
This is where i stand. There is a dealer close by that is willing to match my offer. So, i will try tomorrow. If they don't, i have to put a deposit for the best offer i have and seal that deal via deposit tomorrow.
I was going to try today, but schedule has been crazy trying to negotiate and personal stuff. So, tomorrow afternoon/evening i will know for sure.
I wouldn't mind buying w someone else, but time is kind of short for me and i need to pull the trigger or i will have nothing. I will give you the tips, dealers, etc. i can refer to the salespeople i will deal with.
Now, if i don't seal the deal locally, we can try together to do it at the dealer that doesn;t play this games. Now, i am not sure if they will do any better for the 2 (maybe an extra $50-100 at best), but is the end of the month and this month has been short. I am almost positive they will do it for you too.
I will keep u posted.
Also, try to get pre approved, it will help.
If you need any add ons, i wouldn't recommend doing them now, but is up to u.
Let me know.
When people refer to "invoice" price, does that include the destination cost ($790 for accord)?
Thanks
In the new IIHS Small Overlap Front test, the 2013 sedan is one of the few cars tested so far to receive a "Good" but the coupe only received "Acceptable". Of course, everything is relative. The Sonata received a "Marginal" and the Camry "Poor".
I'm driving my mother-in-law's 2010 Accord which we had to take away from her. It's one of the few cars that only earned 3 stars on the rear side test so I make my son sit in a car seat in the middle instead of a booster on the side. He wants a new Accord more than I do.
The Accord is beyond that.
I was quoted from Anderson about $20850 with accessories for Accord LX CVT.
Interested in Modern Steel with Black Interior without any add ons.
I am willing to buy this week. Looking to Finance thru Honda Financial, Approval should not be issue.
I will wait and see what you local dealer tells you.
Tell them u r willing to wait. Not sure what add ons cost that much. But the other key is have them removing your doc fees. Just tell them that you are willing to drive, but a couple of hundreds in savings won't earn your business as u already have to drive and it will cost u that and more.
Besides, I noticed that they don't have the accessories installed, they add them to make extra profit last minute. My one had "accessories added" but they were "taken away all of the sudden". I will seal the deal w them tomorrow.
Again be straight forward and tell them what u want. They are reasonable or at least I think they will be w me.