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"In Florida you can't a discount on an extended warranty either - everyone has to sell them for the same price.
I am not sure who that law is aimed at "protecting", but HondaCare buyers wish it were not so.
Dennis"
Not sure how I worded it- but to clarify...it wasn't less money off the same warranty. It was just less of a warranty. Sorry if I implied otherwise.
What the heck is that? It is not the tax. Maybe another Florida thing?"
Yep...
http://www.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/doc_stamp.html
1) Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union - Car sales rep
2) Capitol Honda - talked to the sales rep that sold us our 2004 Pilot EX-L w/NAV last Nov. 2003
Anderson Honda matched the lowest priced email quote I got from Fremont AutoWest and beat that by another $100! All I had to do was print a copy of their email and bring it in to show them. Fremont's AutoWest email didn't originally state whether his price included Destination, so I emailed him again asking that question and it did. I forgot to print a copy of that 2nd email, ... so I used Anderson's computer to visually show him AutoWest 2nd email and that's all he needed to proceed with my $20,986 purchase ($22,961.81 OTD). It was really a no hassel, pressure free and pleasant experience!
So far, I have 1,421 glorious miles on my new 2005 Accord 4cyl. EX-L Sedan (since May 6th) with an 27.5 MPG AVG* (*4 tanks - 85% City / 15% Highway)
Hopefully you can match or beat the price I paid since it's now half-way thru June, getting closer to Honda's 2006 introduction.
Phil
Pic's of my 2005 Honda Accord 4 cyl. AT EXL PZEV Sedan
My Epinions.com 2005 Honda Accord Review
$ 200 above dealer invoice, with $ 199.00 Dealer Processing fee.
Great to work with, they even delivered vehicle 5 hours away.
Best car buying experience ever, local Honda Dealer, Hall Honda was all about
trying to milk the customer.
Highly recommend them.
This was for an EX-L V-6 with Navigation.
thanks
That may be a great deal on a Pilot, but not a great deal at this time on an Accord. There has been $600-950 in dealer incentive money on Accords so folks are getting them for WELL under invoice. I got a new one in March for my wife and we paid $600-700 under invoice, but the incentives got even larger in later months.
Dennis
On a simple change such as minor variations to sheet metal, the whole assembly line need NOT be retooled. What you need is a Program - Design, engineering, manufacturing and assembly operations sign-off following which the stamping dies will need to be retooled [this may cost anywhere from $100,000 to $500,000 and perhaps even more [depending on how simple or complex the change is]. Body welding and assembly Robots need not be re-programmed as long as the weld flanges are not touched. Some trim parts such as lamps, gimps and others may need to be redesigned to accommodate changes to the sheet metal along with changes in the way the parts are assembled.
You got a sweet deal......
For all those in the Phoenix/Tucson area (markphx, et. al ), here's what I paid for my 05 Accord LX Auto I-4 back in March of this year.
Showcase Honda Fleet Proposal Sheet
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Sales Price $18,100.00 (including destination fee)
Taxable Total $18,100.00
Sales Tax 8.10% $1,466.10
Registration (DMV) $372.60
Documentation Fee $289.99
Tire Disposal Tax $5
Sub-Total: $20,233.69
Total OTD: $20,233.69
Enjoy your new car.........
I think the problems is that most folks still think you can't get a deal on a Honda, so looking at prices they are "overpriced" VS the competition. Also folks are buying SUVs and "CrossOvers" (station wagons?) now and the number of sedan and coupe buyers is shrinking. FWD coupes really don't make sense to me - if you want sporty why buy a FWD car? Lots of competition and shrinking market. I don't know that some simple changes will help that much, I would think something more radical to make the Accords stand out - and get current owners to trade up to the newer design. I don't think they will spend that much now, however.
They need to add DSC and maybe traction and EBD to all the cars, just to keep up - and rear side airbags (in addition to head curtain bags) make not hurt either.
Dennis
I am looking to purchase a new 05 Accord EX or a new 05 Accord EX with leather in either the Pittsburgh, or Baltimore Area. In Pittsburgh I was quoted a price of $21,413 including delivery for a Accord EX wo Leather. Is this a good price?
Also, what is the dealer hold back of 3% I see on this form? Is the hold back the money the dealer gets to keep in addition to any profit they make on the car by selling over invoice?
Thanks
Below is the breakdown of all of this for an EX-L. Start with the MRSP + Dest on an EX to come up with an idea of what you should expect for that model. Also, It seems the top end FTD may have dropped form $900 to $750 but it's hard to uncover exactly what that is or how far a particular dealership will dip into that money. In the end there is usually a $1200 to $1500 difference between an EX and EX-L
MSRP + Dest on an EX-L Auto is $25,115
Invoice + Dest = $22,651
- 3% holdback = $21,970
- FTD Incentives ($400 to $900) = $21,570 to $21,070
Hope this helps,
John
Why not just lease? I thinks its cheaper to buy and trade. I paid 23.5 for the car. Now i can get back 17. Thats only a loss of 6500. The car is 30 months old. I don't think you can get an EX V6 for 300 month and even if you could thats 9000 over 30 months. Plus I'd have to pay an additional 500 to get the car fixed before returning it. Granted I could have made interst on the 25K put down 2 years ago but not that much. If I were financing at a high interest rate it could have made up the 2500 difference from leasing, but since my money is sitting in the back making less than 2%, I'm not making squat on it.
I'm in Western PA as well & I'm looking to purchase a 2005 Accord Sedan EX-L automatic (4 cylinder). I'm not sure whether I want Navigation or not. Anyways, could you provide the dealership name that gave you this quote? Was the dealer quote of $21,413 an "out the door" quote, or did this exclude tax, doc fees, etc.?
I'm looking to purchase at either the end of June or July. I'd appreciate your input ASAP...I was going to start soliciting quotes via email this Saturday.
thanks for your assistance...
Valley Honda (Monroeville)
+ 515.00 Destination
+20,698.58 Invoice Price (2005 EX without Leather)
+ 200.00 Profit
= 21,413.58 subtotal
+ 1,284.81 tax (6%)
+ 141.00 state/notary
= 22,839.39 OTD
But like the other guy that replied to my message said, you can probably do much better. I have not yet started negotiating, so even I consider this price high- I just wanted to test drive the car to see how it drove, and didn't really feel like "discussing" the price.
Let me know if you find any deals
After reading you post I felt compelled to input my two cents...
I happen to agree with you on this one...for the simple fact that if you take the 6500 loss that you describe and divide that by 30 months that comes out to be only 216 bucks a months it cost you to have that car...now in todays world having a car payment under 300 is almost unheard of unless your buying a Kia...but we are talking about a V6 accord...
The only thing that I might do different is ask myself do I want to get the 05 or wait until the 06 comes out? But as you and I both know they will not be discounting those until a couple of months after the initial release...and if you seen the spy photos of the 06's then it might be better to buy now while you can get huge discounts! If those spy photos are accurate then I am not sure I am going to like the styling of the new Accord...have to wait and see...
I will close on this note...not sure about you...but I do get that itch every so often to get that new car...especially when a remodel comes out...and if it doesn't break your bank then...what the hell! Although some people would say that all us types are doing is trying to justify our itch by giving an explanation like your giving for wanting to trade your 03 Accord! And to all of those people out there...mind your business!!!
I'm out!
However... how long do you really want to drive the same car? I leased three Accords in a row for my wife... But, after 7 years of driving virtually the same car, she was bored with it.. I'm on my second CR-V, and now have almost 7 years driving the same model... Great cars, but I'm bored as well..
Do you really want to drive the same car for 5 years (3 more years).. If so, go for it.. But, if you are like a lot of people and like to have something different every three or four years... you might just wait till you find something else that you want..
regards,
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I dont think I would consider buying the 06 with the new rear lights and squared off bumper.
Just doesnt fit the cars lines, sticks out like a sore thumb.
I'm not surprised they are changing it..
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Dennis
I'm looking to buy a new 2005 Accord in either the DX Value Package Trim or the LX trim.
The best prices so fare I've been quoted from dealers in Chicago are $16,100 + 515.00 dest charge + 50.00 doc fee + tax (8 % in Chicago)...this is for the DX Value Package model
For the LX I've been quoted $17,900.00 plus lic, title, doc, dest and taxes.
Are these pretty good. They are internet sales rates. Does it help to go in and negotiate face to face and/or should I wait until Aug to buy, seeing as the 2006 models are coming in September.. I am not picky about color of car at all...don't want alot of bells and whistles, just airbags (side and frontal) and ABS.
Thanks! :confuse:
Anyway, what's a reasonable price for a basic LX, 4-D sedan with an AM/FM radio and CD player? I don't care about navagational systems, sat radio or a TV! My estimate is ~ $19,400 - $20,000. Maybe I can hit the $19,000 target with the 2005 coming to its year-end. Maybe I'm off target here, given my thriftyness of not buying cars too often. I'm located in central Virginia.
Thanks for comments.
*Auburn63: Are you still out there? I'm looking for a nice N-600. BTW: This '85 Civ-Wag is running strong, although my AC just died. I'm looking at $900 for a new installation. Hope you're doing well...
Thanks !
Thanks for the info. The quote from Valley Honda doesn't seem bad as a starting point. I'm going to solicit quotes from Smail (Greensburg) and Delaney (Indiana). My local dealership (Alvin's in Windber) is notorious for not negotiating much since they're such a small dealership...but I'll still try anyways.
I plan on e-mailing the aforementioned dealers very soon. Once I get quotes, I'll be sure to pass them along. If you get good quotes from other Pittsburgh area dealers, please let me know.
thanks...maybe we can assist each other...
Thanks,
BarryC1
$18100 for the car
$515 destination
$300 (includes documentation, title, and temporary plates)
~$600 tax.
~$500 in optional warranty
This comes out to around $20,000 total.
I understand that I could get better deals in California but it would have cost me more to get there and back from where I live in Ohio (i'm a VA resident).
Please respond, thanks!
So Far the best quote I have received for 05 Accord LX AT is
17417.00 Is it a good price or should I check with few other dealers?
Thanks
Thanks,
AJ
mzimmer -
Go to Open Road Honda's website (they are locatd in Edisson, NJ) and get an internet quote. Try and see if your local dealer can beat that price or at least match it.
The rule of thumb is NOT to pay more than $18000 including dealer fees and destination charge for an 05 Accord LX I-4 Auto.
Hope that helps......good luck.
Go to Open Road Honda's website (they are locatd in Edisson, NJ) and get an internet quote. Try and see if your local dealer can beat that price or at least match it.
The rule of thumb is NOT to pay more than $18000 including dealer fees and destination charge for an 05 Accord LX I-4 Auto.
This does not apply to aftermarket leather seats.
Hope that helps......good luck.