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Infiniti G35 Sedan 2006 and earlier
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Altimas are selling near invoice now in a lot of places, just a couple of months after its launch.
But I guess the guy who paid $25k for a New Beetle feels the same way now. Same for anyone who paid $25k for a PT Cruiser. Both can be had for $16k in the DC area now.
-juice
Hey norcalmike:
Do you think you can call your Infiniti dealer and have them talk to Infiniti upper management about the styling of the rear trunk lid? Tell them that the majority of the people you are representing on the Edmunds board think the rear styling is bland. It needs some "spicing". Hopefully, they will listen and quickly retool the trunk lid (have license plate in the center of the trunk lid and a nice chrome piece over it). What ya think?
Infiniti looks to be in much better shape than it was about 3 years ago... I remember walking into the Infiniti dealership back in '99, seeing the unpopular (underselling) Q45 (Q41, actually) and the "Maxima with an Infiniti badge" I30, and thinking "Geez what happened to these guys".
Nowadays it looks like they are really cranking out some luxo-performance monsters... The I-series is a hit, the new Q, even though not a top-seller, is selling more per month than the last generation sold per YEAR last year with very few discounts/incentives, and there is a lot of buzz about the upcoming G-series and FX45.
Things are looking pretty good...
Perhaps Infiniti is trying to do their part in trying to stimulate our current sad economy. If they gave $500 off sticker, that money you saved would just stay in your bank account. However, with a debit card, you are forced to go out and spend that $500 on other products and services, thereby, helping the economy to recover faster. Just a thought.
Also - I understand the gauge cluster moves WITH the tilt steering. Should I assume then that [unlike the new Altima] the G35 steering wheel does NOT telescope'?? [move in and out]
My other concern has to do with the transmission. Apparently the Q45 - even WITH 340 h.p. is NOT as quick as the Lexus LS430. [with 290 h.p] The reason WHY the Q45 is slower is BECAUSE of the gear ratio's in the transmission. [so I've read] The G35 - at least on 'paper' - SOUNDS like 'it' SHOULD be as quick as the Acura TL 3.2 Type 'S' - but will it be??
Thanks,
Craig!! )
Also that this car is on a completely new platform.
Are you listening Nissan?
My understanding is that first gear is very tall.
Much taller than you would think in a car of this displacement.
I imagine the six speed will be very quick and the 5speed auto might be a 7 second car or maybe a little quicker.
Seats matter. As do interior quality, paint quality, stuff falling off, noise, and a number of other things that the beancounters may or may not understand.
My experience has been that Nissan folks understand.
Hide and watch.
I'm really wanting this car to be successful.
Keep telling us how it really is.
Is the G35 based upon the same platform as the Altima? I know that the Altima is FWD but I read somewhere that this platform was designed to FWD or RWD or AWD. This would seem to make sense after Nissan said that they would be consolidating platforms a few years ago.
Seems as though people get offended when G35 and Altima are mentioned in the same sentence
http://www2.freshalloy.com/site/lifestyle/events/2002_naias/home_frame.html
And yes, we are offended. :-)
68bullitt: I don't really understand your logic. Because the G35 and the altima are a different wheelbase and lengh means that they are not on the same platform? How do you explain the G35 and the new Z? I don't think they have the same wheelbase. Also, just because one is RWD and the other is FWD doesn't mean that they are not related either. How do you explain the MDX and the ODyssey. or the Mondeo and the X-type?
Check out the pricing on the Z!
http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/z/main_naias.html
I used to spend a lot of time in Japan and know that the Skyline has had a cult following there for many, many years. Nissan has been making the Skyline for decades, well before they even thought about making an Altima. Bottom line is that they are very different cars. Just because they are coming out around the same time does not mean that they are the same car. But I understand where you are coming from. At the auto show the other night, I must have overheard at least 90% of the attendees commenting that the G35 must be the Infiniti version of the Altima. I couldn't help but chuckle inside at their ignorance.
Since this confusion is very common, I think Nissan needs to make a TV commercial with nothing but a picture of the G35 and the words "This car is not based on the Altima" along with a voiceover saying that over and over again. Then show the two cars side by side with a not equal sign between them. They really do need to get this message across.
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml
-juice
Looking at the Emerald Mist exterior color but can't really tell what it will look like exactly (the web site pic just too small); dealer said it was a new color so probably not on a current Infiniti.
steve
I never called the G35 Infinitis version of the Alitima and completely understand that the two have very little in common. All I wondered was if the G35 was LOOSELY based on the Altima platform. The reason I say this is because of Nissans commitment to reduce and consolidate the number of platforms of its cars. Thats all.
lenscap: I think that the M30 was based on the Maxima and not the Z. If it was based on the Z it would have been the pre-1990 generation since the M30 has been sold in Japan as the Nissan Leopard long before it was an Infiniti. Can anyone clarify?
Does anybody know when Motor Trend, C&D, R&T, etc. will be testing the G35? I am interested in knowing true performance numbers. I'm hoping for at least a 6.5 second 0-60 time and don't know what the extra cog in the tranny will do. I will see the car at our auto show on Jan. 31st. Does anyone know about any real-world testing?
G35 Luxury Model includes the following standard equipment:
PERFORMANCE
260-hp 3.5-liter (3,498cc) DOHC V6 engine, aluminum-alloy block and heads. Low-friction
molybdenum-coated pistons.
Electronically controlled 5-speed automatic transmission. Driver-adaptive learning algorithm
senses driving style and adjusts automatic shifting accordingly. Manual shift mode offers sequentially selected manual gearshifts.
Brake Assist senses emergency-braking situations via how the driver depresses the brake pedal. If emergency-braking is detected, Brake Assist applies maximum brake force until the brake pedal is released.
Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD) varies front-to-rear brake proportioning based on vehicle load, for improved braking performance.
Traction Control System (TCS) senses wheelspin while accelerating, and automatically reduces (TCS) engine output, to help regain traction.
Infiniti Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC)1 compares the driver's input to the vehicle's response while cornering. By selectively braking individual wheels and/or
reducing engine output, VDC can help the driver maintain control of the vehicle.
Anti-lock Braking System (4-wheel, 4-channel ABS)
I am really looking forward to test driving this car when it arrives.
Anyone know or guess if the G35 will have the trip computer with features like miles to empty, avg mpg, avg mph, etc.? Seems like it should but I didn't see any specific mention of it on the website or elsewhere....
ace
I have a special Road & Track magazine from 1990 dedicated exclusively to Infiniti. It talks all about the development of the Q45 and M30. I'll check it out tonight if I remember.
Actually, I just looked at the option packages again and realized that the 6-spoke wheels we see in most of the photos are probably the 17" wheels that come with the Leather Package. I still tend to believe the 5-spoke wheels are the ones that come with the Sports Suspension Package, however. Don't know what the base, standard 16" wheels on the standard model look like, though. Has anyone seen a photo of the base 16" wheels?
I am surprised that a salesperson would discourage buying any accessory!! The Nav system is certainly not a requirement, but the pop-up screen is kind of cool.
I am surprised that a salesperson would discourage buying any accessory!! The Nav system is certainly not a requirement, but the pop-up screen is kind of cool.
That is where the similarities end. You can think of the G35 as a 4-door version of the new Z, because that is really what it is. Which also explains why the G35 will not get the 6-speed manual right away. Nissan wants the Z to get it first. A big plus though will be that many of the after-market enhancement that inevitably show up for the new Z would probably apply just as well to the G35.
Actually, it is funny that the G35 gets confused with the Altima. On the hard-core Nissan fan forums, the Skyline gets confused with the Skyline GT-R - as in, why the G35 does not have the same power as the GT-R version, when previous generations did. The GT-R is a completely different beast, that in previous generations was based on the Skyline. Kinda like a 5-series compared to the M5. The next GT-R chassis will be based on the new Z chassis - engine config is still unknown however - probably a twin-turbo version of the 3.5 V6.
Anoonan, there is a trip computer function with all the features you are looking for, but it is only available with the DVD navigation system. I do not know why a salesman would DIScourage a customer to by a $2000 option. Either way, I am not interested in those fancy, expensive navigation systems. A $5 paper map will do just fine, thank you.
SWSMS, the G35 comes with Vehicle Dynamic Control (Infiniti's version of electronic stability program), traction control, electronic brake force distribution, electronic brake assist and ABS, all standard. I am waiting to see if the 6-speed manual is also offered with a limited slip differential.
Curiously enough, I have not seen any real-world tests of this car. I am sure they have been done in Japan, but I cannot read Japanese. I am sure you will read about this car in the mainstream American car magazine over the next couple months. It is hard to ignore a $27k 260-HP car, when BMW's offering in that price range only puts out 184-hp - and is smaller to boot!
As for 0-60 times, I would venture to say around 7 seconds for the auto, and a second faster with the manual.
Hope this helps. BTW, if this car is as good on the road as it is on paper, I will get it when the 6-speed manual is available.
Also........A little thought about horsepower. Remember when Mazda got beat up not too long ago for claiming the new Miata had more horsepower than it really did? They had to buy back any Miata with that claim that the consumer wanted replaced. What do you want to bet the 260 horsepower claimed turns out to be a very "conservative" 260 just to avoid that problem. I have a funny feeling that the G35 will do very well in the 0-60 category. Even if it doesn't, I'm still buying one.
I am surprised that a salesperson would discourage buying any accessory!! The Nav system is certainly not a requirement, but the pop-up screen is kind of cool.
Absolutely.
> I hope they do something different for the coupe.
Me too.
> Also hope the coupe might be a hatchback like the 350Z.
Probably not :-( Have you seen the sketch of the coupe at nissannews.com?
As for the handling, the Altima handles almost as well as the BMW M3 in Edmunds slalom tests. If the G35 has better feel and slightly better handling then it will handle wonderfully.
There is truly the potential for the G35 to be faster and more nimble than anything it's competing against. Add that it is roomy and well-priced, and I really want one.