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Prior to going I got both verbal and written confirmation that they would match the out the door price with no extra frills whatsoever from salesman Scott Sanders. As it turns out, when I get there, the car that I want has been extensively used. To the tune of 250 miles! I had planned to buy that day, but the car had been spattered by white bird droppings and they had not even bothered to clean it or detail it! Anyone, I remained unfazed and got ready to negotiate with Scott Sanders for the out the door price we had agreed on. He kept on saying "hey, it's no prob" over and over and then came back with a invoice printout. He then said that he had no problem matching the out the door price of the cheapest dealership in town, but that taxes would apply AFTER that and that his hands were tied on this. I said, no no, that's not my problem, you make it work within the limits of the out of the door price without tacking on even a 1/16 of a penny. I then noticed that this tall grey haired muscular guy had been stalking the hallways. Scott Sanders gave him a cue and he came in and started playing bad cop to Scott's good cop. I didn't get the tall guy's name but he was very rude. He kept on saying, "hey, you gotta' let us make some money, eh?" and talking fast like an auctioneer without letting me get a word in edgewise. They had already tried to jack the price up $700 and they were doing this barefaced game reminiscent of three-card monty! I refused to budge on price and showed both the written and verbal confirmation. Scott Sanders tried to squirm by denying everything he had said previously. I gathered my papers and the big guy suddenly adopted this fake polite voice and said, "Hey mister, mister, how far are we, how far are we? What can we do to earn your business?" I told him that I know that people to have to earn money, but that I expected them to WORK for it, and not pull a bait and switch and SWINDLE people. I got up to leave and all the way back to my car they were screaming at me, "That other place won't have cruise control like we do! They won't have it. Mister! No cruise control!" I got home and reviewed the trims and found out that only the SE shows cruise control as an added option. I was getting the GLS from them.
In short, don't go to Humble Hyundai. They will lie through their teeth and try to get you to hold the bill. It's no wonder their dealership has been sinking through the quagmire for several years.
1. 250 miles is not "extensively used". A previous owner is extensively used.
2. If you have a good offer from another dealership, why are you concerned about this one matching it, especially if you're disappointed in the car, the lack of detailing, and the service? Buy from the dealership that gave you best quote.
3. It is perfectly normal for many GLS Elantras to have Cruise. It comes on *all* SEs, but many GLSs have it, so don't conclude they were lying about it having cruise.
4. If you hadn't paid enough attention to the car you were about to buy to see if it had Cruise or not, you're not paying enough attention to expect to get a good deal.
5. If you don't know what options are on what trim levels, you haven't done enough research yet to expect to get a good deal.
6. If you don't know what options and trim levels you're dealing with, how are they supposed to match the price of the other dealership?
If they told you they would match the OTD price, they should match the OTD price, but from what you've told us so far, it sounds like you don't have enough information to know whether you're giving them the right OTD price to match. But like I said, if you're that unhappy with them, just buy from the other dealer.
This was the most pleasant, easiest car buying experience I have ever had. I called and talked with a salesman, gave him the stock number I was interested in, and told him that I was coming from 200 miles away to buy it. When I arrived, he had the car washed and prepped, and the gas tank filled. We took a test drive, and then completed the paperwork. There was absolutely zero pressure to buy anything else, and zero games. The price on the website was the price I paid. Since it was going so well, I was prepared for a curveball with the F & I guy. Nope – when I told him I had my own financing, he just asked for a check for $15,879.45. No pressure for any “mop & glow”, special financing, or warranties. Once I wrote the check, the salesman went over the features of the car (as required by Hyundai), we programmed the XM radio, and in less than two hours, I was on my way back to WV.
The next time I am in the market for a new car, if I am anywhere within driving distance, I am returning to Fitzgerald Auto Mall.
Stilgar did the right to walk out. Why would you stick up that kind of place. Maybe Stilgar didn't have all his facts in order but an agreed upon offer is just that...AGREED UPON BEFORE. What don't you understand about his post?
The Sandman
I agree completely, but from what he's told us, the ONLY thing that was agreed upon was that they would match the best price he got from somewhere else--never a dollar amount, and if he's getting an quote on a bare-bones GLS and expecting them to match it on a Pop-Op GLS, then that is completely unreasonable and unfair, and based on the information he's provided, for the reasons I outlined, I suspect that this is the case and would like more information before we get the torches and pitchforks and go lynch the dealer.
is it complicated to buy a car in NJ but then register it in CT? I too am looking at buying at Towne but wonder about the paperwork once I get back to CT.
Price - 14390 after rebate
Tax 719
Doc fee 200
liscense fee 65
title fee 50
15424 Total out the door . Not as good as some of you guys but decent I think.
you guys think I did ok? Dealer also included life time tires in the deal
Also financed was 7.67% for 72 months with 1000 down payment
so about $250 a month for 72 months with 1000 down payment. Did I pay too much?
I went the next day to the far away dealership and asked them to honor the original quote they gave me. They did. 2008 Elantra Automatic + Equipment Package 2 (and yes, it does include cruise control) for $15,080 out the door. The mileage was only 9 miles--all from the factory in Korea to the ship, from the ship to Houston port, and from the port to the dealership. None of this 200+ miles crap. I found some other place that had it for $14,675 out the door, but they sold it right before I responded to the ad. I know that some people up north got this package for $13,500 or so, but this was the best deal I could get.
The faraway dealership kept their word, and the finance guy didn't push me when I said "I just want the car, nothing else" (although he did become a bit rude after that), and they even delivered it to my home the next day. I noticed some spots on the car and the dealer read my mind and had the car washed in the morning after having it prepped. I didn't get free lifetime tires like the other guy, but I'm pretty darn happy about the deal that I closed.
Maybe someone in Houston will score a $13,500 Elantra auto deal a couple weeks from now. I won't be jealous. The 2nd dealership and I agreed over a price on the phone, and he kept his word to me through-and-through. If he made a $1,000 off of me, I won't begrudge him that. BUT, the 1st dealership resorted to out-and-out trickery and shenanigans and the good cop/bad cop routine, so they deserve $0. The latter are the kind of people--kind of like very bad waiters--that deserve to be given a tip of 1 cent to let them know how inferior their service is.
All I'm asking for is for people to keep their word and good service. Is that too much?
Nuff said. Got my car.
Oh, and let's get those torches and pitchforks ready. Also please bring a wooden rail and some tar and feathers as well.
FWIW they are quoting me $14118 OTD, taxes and all, Elantra GLS automatic w/pop options (and window etching!!!!).
Towne Hyundai was pretty darn good. Me and my boyfriend had gone to Hudson Hyundai in Jersey City and we never got numbers (sales guy tried to tell me about PZEV and how it was additional!), and they weren't as knowledgable as I would've liked. At Towne, the seller knew his stuff, didn't try to put anything over on us, gave us time to talk it over - no complaints at all. I do love my car!
I was hoping you were going to say something like that. Now the only problem is that Towne won't respond to my inquiries. They said they'd get back to me in 24 hours but it's been 2 days now.
I am in East Tn looking for an 08 elantra SE premium + leather, and I was doing some digging and price checking, and I came across something weird.
What is an elantra EL? I found it online.
Also, here is the best price I have so far: 08 elantra SE premium + leather + blue tooth
orginally 17, 000 not including deal prep, tax, tag, and title
I commented that their dealer prep was high, and that I could get a better deal at Fitzmall, he came down to 16,600 plus 499 doc fees and ttl
Thanks for your help!
Does the car you're pricing have an automatic?
Note that "dealer prep" should be included with the car, as noted on the window sticker. There should not be a separate charge for it.
$499 is really high for documentation fees. It's that dealer's way of jacking up the price without seeming to do so. Figure the actual price is closer to $17,000 before fees, TT&L. In effect, he really didn't come down at all--unless he was going to charge $17,000 plus $499 doc fee plus TT&L.
it is an automatic;his original offer was 17,000 + 499 doc fee, and he only came down when I told him that dealer fees around here are less than half of their fees. I think Fitzmall has it priced at 17,135. I don't know what their doc fee is, but my husband and I have summers off, so we could essentially drive anywhere to buy.
We test drove an 09 Sonata 4cyl GLS tonight, and we like how it rides, but the mpg is a big issue for us.
Anyway thanks for your help! I really appreciate it.
So considering the $499 fee it looks like the dealer is very close to if not better than Fitzmall, depending on Fitzmall's fees. You might also check out Towne Hyundai, which has very good Internet prices, to see if they are significantly lower than your dealer or Fitzmall. They are in New Jersey. I know Towne has all 2009 Sonatas at about $2000 below invoice, plus rebates. So the Sonata GLS could actually cost about the same as the Elantra SE, but w/o leather of course.
Car is fantastic, and I really enjoyed driving it home!
Just bought my Elantra GLS Sport last week and in Toronto we have a Blue Ribbon event with O% Financing for 60 month.
With my trade-in I got the Elantra for $24290.90 @ $404.84/month "OTD"
Some helpful hints to pass on is the mark up on the L auto model is very very little, where as the LTD (fully load) model is around the 7% mark up rate. You can really negociate on the Admin fee, the freight and PDI is a hard one to bargian with and the Taxes is untouchable.
FYI... because we have the 0% fianacing for 60 month we don't get anying rebates like those in the U.S., now that would have been really nice to get an additional $2000 off the price of the car.
Thanks,
Laura
But, I haven't checked their site in a while so maybe it has changed.
thanks
I've read through the past couple month's worth of postings to see where OTD prices have ranged.
I live in southern Maine and unfortunately it doesn't seem like anyone else does.
I've talked to several Maine dealers and so far I've gotten a GLS A/T with pop package for $14,500 OTD. It seems that typical fees here are $350 doc fee, $25 for title and the state sales tax of 5%. Unfortunately, Maine taxes before rebates.
Doing the math the car itself is around $15,714 before everything. Is the $14,500 OTD price reasonable? I still haven't heard back from all the dealers so I'm hoping it will drop more. One dealer gave me the line he couldn't go below $15,000 and didn't know how they could.
Any input is appreciated.
Dan
Anyway, he claims that all the 2008 Elantras have been shipped and no more Elantras will be coming until the 2009s arrive this "fall"--whenever that is--who knows, could be July! I was wondering if anyone else has heard anything like this.
Prices have ranged from the high 12000's to 14000's on this car. Almost all the extraordinarily low prices seem to becoming from the Towne Dealership near NY. Whether Hyundai has a promotional agreement with this dealership or in this region I don't know.
The 07 Elantra gls auto Wholesales used for about 11000, so a price in the low 13000's is about what you want on a new 08 (msrp 17000). Even 13700 isn't bad, as it seems like a better car and warranty than the 08 Ford Focus, and they are paying about the same. If you're financing it may be also fruitful putting some effort into options there , as you can easily leave $1000 or more on the table there over 4 years or so too.
Good Luck
--jjf
Hi, new to the board here.
I've read through the past couple month's worth of postings to see where OTD prices have ranged.
I live in southern Maine and unfortunately it doesn't seem like anyone else does.
I've talked to several Maine dealers and so far I've gotten a GLS A/T with pop package for $14,500 OTD. It seems that typical fees here are $350 doc fee, $25 for title and the state sales tax of 5%. Unfortunately, Maine taxes before rebates.
Doing the math the car itself is around $15,714 before everything. Is the $14,500 OTD price reasonable? I still haven't heard back from all the dealers so I'm hoping it will drop more. One dealer gave me the line he couldn't go below $15,000 and didn't know how they could.
Any input is appreciated.
Dan
How much less is an Accent SE vs Elantra GLS? Now, we compare Elantra GLS vs SE. And, for only a bit more, you can get something even better than an Elantra SE. Repeat until your ~15k car is now a 40k+ car.
One must stop somewhere (barring an infinite amount of $$$).
Thanks
I have been following the discussion about Hyundai Elantra on this Forum and it was quite helpful to me to get an Elantra.
I got my vehicle 2 days back in Houston for 16096 (Including Tax,TTL,Fees). The car is equipped with the anti-theft system and comes with the sun roof + Popular Package . The car drives great and is equivalently great on Mileage.
The selling price of the car was 14400 and the anti- theft added 490 dollars over it.
Do you think it is good deal?
Raj
I bought a GLS
Raj
You may have to wait until the '09's come out later this year.
To stay on topic...umm....I love my Elantra.
I had similar problems with Fitz on my wife's Sonata I bought in early 2007. Got Maryland temp tag (60 day) with purchase, then they waited like 5 weeks to send paperwork to PA DOT. Once DOT received the forms, I found out from them that their normal turnaround on registration papers was 4 weeks. I got the registration and plate the exact day my Maryland temp tag expired. Whew! My chariot almost turned into a pumpkin, too.
On a positive note, I bought an Elantra from them the second week of April this year, and my PA registration stuff is already finished as of a week ago. I think they are a bit more on top of that now. (Probably doesn't hurt, either, that -- given my previous experience -- I stayed in frequent contact this time with Fitz title people until things were cared for. :shades: )
I'm certain that dealing with other-state DMVs is an added layer of complexity for these dealers; I sure wouldn't enjoy it. However, these big internet players that routinely sell out of state need to deal with it, and do their best, if they want the good word-of-mouth (and resulting additional business -- I'd have never found or heard of Fitz if it weren't for this forum, for example) to continue.
I've ready to buy a new Elantra but don't really know if this is a good deal. I'm in the Chicagoland area and have a quote of $14742 (doesn't include tax, title, etc). That's for an auto SE. Sticker is $17945. 17.8% off. That includes $1500 cash back or rebate or something like that.
They said they can go lower as well. Not sure how much though.
Thanks.
Eric
The SE is pretty hot right now, with all the favorable press (the July issue of Consumer Reports has a story on small cars, and ranks the Elantra SE at the top of the heap and speaks glowingly about it--it even beat out the all-new 2009 Corolla, which topped the Elantra GLS by only one point).